It's sarcasm. Read the second or third post and you'll see what I'm getting at.

I was being sarcastic too.

I sometimes misuse it, but I don't really use that word anymore. I'm not really bothered by others who use it, but it is sometimes annoying.

Excuse me. Don't give your opinions about what's stupid or not. At least have something to back up why you think it's stupid. There isn't much of a difference, but instead, you just target it at the word "gay." Have I not said already that the people that use it do not use it while thinking of that certain group of people? Being sensitive towards them only means you are thinking of them differently rather than treating them like the same as everyone else.



That's even more unreasonable than the people that use the word "gay" to describe things or people that are stupid. Meanwhile you are probably accepting other words that have evolved, but you cannot accept the third meaning of gay because you are being sensitive. Which brings back to the first part where you are thinking of them differently rather than treating them like the same kind of people.



Then you have missed my point utterly. It is NOT parallel because she is putting a greeting with an adjective. "Hi Nigger" and "That's so gay," is a completely different way to use the word "nigger" and "gay."



Do you ever stop saying something completely just because someone takes offense to it? Ever?


Same for people that use fag. How many people actually think the person it is directed upon is described as homosexual? The people that actually think homosexuals are different, thinks of it. It is the same kind of name calling with b*tch. To you, obviously from what you have written at the very start, it is different. How is it different? It is directed to a certain group also. Are you viewing gay people differently?

For example, let's say someone lost his leg due to a car accident. It is right to be sensitive about it. But if someone jokes around about it, it doesn't mean that person is meaning to offend the person that lost his leg. It means he is not even thinking about it and treating him like he is just a normal person.

Umm i dont really even use that word im just like "bro.. go play in traffic with a bag over your head" lmao.

well, you said am i worried about 'bitch' offending female dogs...


that IS just stupid, as well as childish, because it is a trivial, non sensical point, as female dogs are not capable of feeling offended by it... you are equating the emotions of an animal with that of a human being. I certainly feel that that is justification enough for saying it was a stupid point. It was a ridiculou thing to say

- yea, i accept other words that evolved... thats the point. but this one has a predefinition (word?) which makes the third definition offensive. that is the difference between it and othe rnew slang.

- no no... i understood your point, it just wasnt very good. its STILL the same thing, because it is the casual use of a word which may offend... are you honestly too dense to see that?

- to be honest, i cant think of a word which i use frequently which could be offensive to a group of people... if someone could give me a reasobale explanation of why it was offensive, then yes, i would try as much as possible to break that habit.

- cant be botherd to row about fag, because its the same argument over again.


oh good, i like this conversation.

that wasnt intended to be patronizing, really... sorry if you took it that way. i was just expressing dislike for what you said.

well, see, i think there is a fundamental difference in our philosophies. i see it as my responsibility not to give offense. you see it as others responsibility not to take offense. it boils down to that. it jsut seems stupid to me to acknowledge that something has the potential to cause offense, and then not bother to stop in advance.

i am arrogant, i have a very high opinion of myself, a big ego, and im agressive with my opinions. i make no apologies for it. and frankly, i could care less why they stopped. its all a means to an end, either way.

interesting. see, i can see where you;re going, but the difference to me is that with gay, or nigger, or what have you, there is a spefiic, ready made sector who could potentially be offended, and you see it coming. with my user name, i dont see a strong potential for offense. if it is one person, then yeah, probably i wouldn't be that fussed, because there is no argument which says it is personally degrading, or attaches negative conotations to them. plus, of course, i really did shoot jfk, so it is neither here nor there.

oh, i dont let things go. ever. getting me to stop is an equally losing battle. and i have an equal respect for what you say. 'I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to your death the right to say it'. <--- words i live by

Voltaire, nice touch. Anywho....


Ok, so are you implying gay people are offended when being called gay?

well no. im saying that when the word 'gay' is used to mean stupid or whatever, it attaches a negative conotation to the word in its other forms, which is offensive. was that not clear?

I agree I agree, but if the given situation were in a group of friends who knows that you are joking, would that still not be acceptable?

well that depends. even if i knew someone was joking, or didnt mean any offense, i would still find it distasteful

I've misused the word "gay" alot in the passed.. I've cut down on it alot because some people found it offensive.

In my opinion, only people with little self-esteem would be offended by offensive words. If you know the word doesn't apply to you, you should be laughing at the idiot that says it, not crying a river about it.

Funily enough, anybody I've used it on hasn't found it offensive.

I use it daily, I could really care less if people get offended. It all falls back on freedom of speech. It's not profanity, it's nothing racial, vulgar. But it can offend people and it's their choice how to handle it.

Well, to take it badly, I believe you would have to think a bit too much into the whole thing, or, to a certain extent, suffer from a mild case of...being homophobic.

your font is irritating.

and isnt trying to stop the person in question mor eproductive than just laughing at them?



well obviously its your legal right to use it. it's just unpleasant. and doesnt the offended party have a right to interpret the vulgarity of a term, as much as the one who used the term? you say its nothing racial... then what isyour view on the use of 'nigger'? do you no tsee the parallel?

But do homosexual people call eachother Gay's?

well they refer to the 'gay population', and refer to one another as being gay, so i suppose so, yes. why?

Haha, Hell yes I do.

This is the thing: I don't adhere to the predominant superstitions of language. Most notably, the idea that certain sounds, when put together to form words, can become inherently wrong, bad, and offensive. However, I do have my standards in economy of language as well as standards that slip into regions of speech.

I might go so far as to say that I am not so much offended by it's derogatory use but rather, it's unimaginative, beaten to death, dry, ignorant, and low essence. Of course it makes absolutely no sense, given that you do not actually believe homosexuality to be inherently derogatory, to use the word "gay" in the manners described in this thread. Why should we use it in such ways? What is the point?

We have all heard it used, and by the age of 12 it really isn't anything special. Any half-witted simpleton can declare the "gayness" of his most despised exotic food, or his closest rival, or that door that slammed shut on his dumb ass. We've all heard it, and we have to realize how little sense it truly makes. Also, it's important to realize how dull it is. It's just shortsighted and worthless. I won't exactly think low of you for using it, nor will I exactly become offended, but I might suspect a bit of slowness on your part.

Yes, but they don't all go around using it a misleading way unlike what you stayed as using the n word.

Every once in a while I'll say something like, "that's so gay!" I honestly don't mean any harm. I understand that it could be considered offensive to some, so I try to limit how many times (if at all anymore) I say that, particularly because my son repeats EVERYTHING I say.

i think you may have over thought what i said...

I always missuse the word gay like...

"oh wow, thats sooo freaking gay!"

:( I don't mean to it just comes out, and I know that it affects many people in negative ways...

HAHAH ohboy.

I didn't vote, but I don't usually say it. It slips sometimes and yea.
Then you get attacked verbally by the people who don't "agree" with using the word that way.
Ahh whateva.