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Is masturbation a sin?, i herd it was im not sure
Is maturbating a sin?
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post Jan 6 2006, 08:35 PM
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post Jan 12 2006, 08:56 PM
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21 pages? I think it's time for a 2nd version...maybe this time in the lounge.
 
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post Jan 14 2006, 12:53 PM
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lol.. i think we have concluded that masturbation is a sin.... someone should close this topic and whoever opens a new one needs to look up old topics.. lol..

n e wayz... it's a sin. it's okay to sin, not all rules (they are really guidelines) are meant to be followed.... aslong as u do the 10 commandments and what not. ur okay.

yea..
 
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post Jan 15 2006, 01:32 PM
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i doubt its a sin.
your pleasuring yourself.
it's good way to practive abstinence..
isn't it? ermm.gif
 
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post Jan 16 2006, 01:04 AM
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if you read the church's thing in that one book.. all i remmeber is black and it has alot of stuff in it including birth control and what not.. it's a sin... ill get the book and quote it.. maybe.


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"The Catholic Faith Handbook For Youth" page 272..

Chastity Chapter:
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Masturbation, genital activity alone or with another person that does not result in sexual intercourse, is also a sin agaisnt chastity. It is all about pleasure without regard for life or real love. Sins agaisnt chastity include other forms of genital sexual activity that stop short of sexual intercourse, such as petting or oral sex. They are forms of exploitation, and are not appropiate sexual expressions for semicommited love. These activities can also prevent true intimacy in future relationships


Definitions (page 417):
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Masturbation: Self manipulation of one's sexual organs for the purpose of erotic pleasure or to achieve orgasm. The Church considers masturbation a sin because the act cannot result in the creation of life. It is also wrong because it is self-serving, and God created sex not for self-gratification but to unify a husband and wife in marriage.



there.. so it's a sin.. I broke it down by what the church said, not by personal opinion or what i heard but what the church said in the book since they do publish this.... if ur not christian, then the rules dont follow the same way..
This is gonna sound bad but it is okay to sin, you can't follow all the rules. your not going to hell just because you masturbate. It's not the end of the world trust me.. the world would have ended millions of years ago if masturbation was really that bad. Aslong as you have faith, belive in the trinity and commandments and what not, it's all good.

case closed... someone close this now.. haha.

This post has been edited by Levy2k6: Jan 16 2006, 01:24 AM
 
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post Jan 17 2006, 06:05 PM
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well according to that definition, condoms are a sin also, because "it cannot result in the creation of life" so thats stupid. according to that every time we have sex it should be for a baby. rolleyes.gif
 
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post Jan 17 2006, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Jan 17 2006, 6:05 PM)
well according to that definition, condoms are a sin also, because "it cannot result in the creation of life" so thats stupid. according to that every time we have sex it should be for a baby.  rolleyes.gif
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lol.. now ur catching on... that's exactly what it is saying. u said it yourself.

and that's why i said you can't follow the rules.
 
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post Jan 17 2006, 10:26 PM
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I saw this thread, and I'm going to add some concrete evidence:

QUOTE(The Catholic Catechism)
Offenses against chastity

2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.

2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."137 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."138

To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.

2353 Fornication is carnal union between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children. Moreover, it is a grave scandal when there is corruption of the young.

2354 Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.


It is not OK to sin. Please repent.

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Elaboration:

Notice the words "grave" sin. This falls under mortal sin if you knew it was a grave sin and you did it by your consent.

If you do not confess your sin before you die, you will go to hell. Please, go to confession and don't sin anymore.
 
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post Jan 17 2006, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 17 2006, 10:26 PM)
If you do not confess your sin before you die, you will go to hell. Please, go to confession and don't sin anymore.
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that's not true... (or the part about going to hell)




but that's funny.


anyways, we have alot of concrete evidence that masturbation is a sin..

will this topic ever end!?
 
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post Jan 17 2006, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(Levy2k6 @ Jan 17 2006, 10:59 PM)
that's not true... (or the part about going to hell)
but that's funny.
anyways, we have alot of concrete evidence that masturbation is a sin..

will this topic ever end!?
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It's a mortal sin. You go to Hell if you don't confess mortal sins.
 
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post Jan 17 2006, 11:18 PM
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Masturbation is mostly a venial sin, not truly mortal.. unless you let it be.. and you are doing in on purpose and what not

Venial or Mortal, it's still a sin.

Usually before you die, you can confess your sins for the last time and if you don't... when people pray for you when you die, they are helping you get into heaven because it's not something your spirit can't do without help of others
 
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post Jan 17 2006, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(Levy2k6 @ Jan 17 2006, 11:18 PM)
Masturbation is mostly a venial sin, not truly mortal.. unless you let it be.. and you are doing in on purpose and what not

Venial or Mortal, it's still a sin.

Usually before you die, you can confess your sins for the last time and if you don't... when people pray for you when you die, they are helping you get into heaven because it's not something your spirit can't do without help of others
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Read my initial post under elaboration:

QUOTE(kryogenix)
Notice the words "grave" sin. This falls under mortal sin if you knew it was a grave sin and you did it by your consent.


Don't take mortal sin lightly. Think of it this way, if you died right now, would you go to heaven? (not you personally, just a rhetorical question)
 
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post Jan 18 2006, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(Levy2k6 @ Jan 17 2006, 9:06 PM)
lol.. now ur catching on...
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yay!

so that must mean your mommy and daddy are sinning a hella lot. they probably had sex last night! ohmy.gif
 
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post Jan 18 2006, 09:14 PM
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Wow...this is still going on?
 
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post Jan 31 2006, 04:17 PM
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mastubation= not a sin

mastubation= relief biggrin.gif
 
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post Jan 31 2006, 08:55 PM
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all I heard was its good for you. And ofcourse that was from a D.L. Hughley stand up comedy.
 
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QUOTE(WildGriffin @ Jun 2 2004, 4:19 PM)
I hope to God it's not.

...seriosuly, the thought scares me.
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hmm.. I personally have no clue. If it is, I don't think it should be.
 
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post Mar 18 2006, 01:37 AM
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well, it is if youre christian.

but i dont believe in god so it wouldnt matter.
 
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post Mar 18 2006, 04:07 AM
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I heard on some sex show thing that it "isn't" a sin. lol... They called it "Perfectly natural".
 
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nAH ITs f**kin not. Dont get it wrong.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 05:38 PM
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This seems like a bit of a controversial topic and I thought it belonged in Debate... let's keep the posts intelligent now...

>Moved to Debate>
 
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post Apr 5 2006, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE(waccoon @ Jun 2 2004, 2:13 PM) *
ooooooo. j00 going to heeeell! laugh.gif

He never said HE masterbates. tongue.gif

To me, no, it's not a sin. I don't understand why it is to some Christians. I've heard that it's like ending possible lives, but then some others say that it isn't because they were never fertilized?

Iono. _unsure.gif

I could see why sex before marriage is a sin {Even though I don't think it is.}, because it's supposed to be used for creating new people, not sexual pleasure. But why would God give us masterbation and tell us not to use it? It won't help us have children..I don't see any other purpose for it except to relieve us..if anything, I think Christians should applaud masterbation because it would help us refrain from having sex until we're married. rolleyes.gif

There really needs to stop being so many restrictions.
 
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QUOTE(x__Elle. @ Apr 5 2006, 9:15 AM) *
He never said HE masterbates. tongue.gif

To me, no, it's not a sin. I don't understand why it is to some Christians. I've heard that it's like ending possible lives, but then some others say that it isn't because they were never fertilized?

Iono. _unsure.gif

I could see why sex before marriage is a sin {Even though I don't think it is.}, because it's supposed to be used for creating new people, not sexual pleasure. But why would God give us masterbation and tell us not to use it? It won't help us have children..I don't see any other purpose for it except to relieve us..if anything, I think Christians should applaud masterbation because it would help us refrain from having sex until we're married. rolleyes.gif

There really needs to stop being so many restrictions.


http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...dpost&p=1854737
 
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 5 2006, 11:02 PM) *

Ahh, thank you for that.
 
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what about all those gay preists and bishops that take advantage of kids??
If they knew how to do that, where did they learn? They had to have learned by masterbating....or a previous relationship i guess...
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