Super Smash Brothers: Melee, Official discussion thread. Who plays? |
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Super Smash Brothers: Melee, Official discussion thread. Who plays? |
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QUOTE(jnukes @ Jan 26 2006, 7:17 PM) I don't have the right equipment, but I might be able to some time. For me, I started out as pikachu. Pika was my main character back on the 64, but her abilities were down played in the sequel. So, I dropped her once I started to play Melee more. I picked up Marth. I played Marth all the time. Got boring. So, I wanted to play someone new. At this point, I had never seen anyone really play Peach. Ever. So, I wanted to pick her up. I found her to be alot of fun. Little did I know that at about the same time, Peach was being found to be a very viable option in high skill level tournament play. Although her style of fighting is much unlike any other character in advanced play, thanks to her floating abilities, she proved to be a very popular choice among advanced players. She is currently one of the more popular characters among serious Melee tournament goers. My Peach is trash compared to the pros. However, when I play 1 on 1 with a friend, Peach is the way to go. Her down smash is amazingly helpful. Spam it and you'll get called cheap. Either way, it is often held as one of the best smashes in the game. With huge priority, great speed, and amazing damage (Up to 60+ in one attack) I believe Peach's down smash is the best move in the game. However, her down smash is just the beginning. Combine her floating abilities, her float cancel, her sold airials, her fantastic dash, and her projectile turnips, she is a great character. Hard to master, but well worth the time. Try her out sometime. |
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That's funny. My sister-in-law came over and although she had no idea how to play, she was kicking butt with Peach. She refused to play any other character.
Oh and I did visit some sites but haven't been around to the smashboards yet. Thanks for the advice. =) |
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QUOTE(Zatanna @ Jan 27 2006, 12:38 AM) That's funny. My sister-in-law came over and although she had no idea how to play, she was kicking butt with Peach. She refused to play any other character. Oh and I did visit some sites but haven't been around to the smashboards yet. Thanks for the advice. =) That's the beauty of Smash bros. A total newbie can enjoy it thorougly, as well as someone who is very experienced with the game. Usually, the fun you have as a newbie encourages you to get better. If Smash Bros Online is released for Revolution, we gotta have some sort of online tournament thing. |
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 27 2006, 9:59 AM) That's the beauty of Smash bros. A total newbie can enjoy it thorougly, as well as someone who is very experienced with the game. Usually, the fun you have as a newbie encourages you to get better. If Smash Bros Online is released for Revolution, we gotta have some sort of online tournament thing. Exactly. It's a very simplistic game at first glance, and the basics can be taught rather easily. However, there are very complex aspects to it that advanced players can enjoy later on, like wavedashing, short hopping, fast falling, L-canceling, and chain throwing. Also, next installment of Smash Brothers will most likely be first available as a release title on the Nintendo Revolution. Most likely, it will feature online play. Going to be interesting. I hope it can be played with the gamecube controller, cause I can't imagine playing Smash Bros. with the revolution controllers. |
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^ Yeah it can, the Gamecube controllers will be able to work with the Revolution.
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I don't play it anymore because my G/C is officially broken and damaged, but I used to kick ass in that game...with captain falco, dr.mario, samus, fox..Yep yep.
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QUOTE(xnofearx @ Jan 27 2006, 1:27 PM) That's true. But, the game might not be designed around that controller. I think they will be focusing on supporting their new controllers and franchises. It could turn out to be really lame. |
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^ I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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That game rocks. But, I don't have a Gamecube, it has to many kiddy games.
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My Avatar and Sig set is in homage to Peach, my character of choice in Melee.
Yeah, respect. Wedding Peach is still cooler than Pink Dress Classic Peach though. ![]() |
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I play on and off. Right now I'm on. I play with my little brother and we like to team up on some level 9 bots.
My main chararcter has got to be: Zelda/Shiek Not that many Zelda/Shiek users huh... Otherwise, I can work everyone else pretty well. |
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![]() Transience ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 39 Joined: Feb 2006 Member No: 380,725 ![]() |
ehh...I really tried playing this game, but with lack of interesting characters (I really don't like any of the Nintendo Crew...too childish), and the fact...I dunno what the fact is, but I just don't find this game fun to play.
I tried forcing myself to play it for a week or two, but it got old really fast. When the game came out on 64, I played with it for awhile, and got tired after about a month. My brother took to it hardcore. When it came out for 64, I played it for a couple weeks, but the way fighting carries out, something about the mechanics screams cheapness and not deep. [2cents] Like, when I play Soul Calibur, it feels like a fighting game. When I play Street Fighter, it feels like a fighting game. When I play Tekken, it feels like a fighting game. When I play Mortal Kombat, it feels like a fighting game. When I play Smash Bros., I feel like I'm playing a game that was made for 10 year olds. Throwing turnips at my opponents, "cartoon violence", and comic mischief just lacks a certain seriousness that I've needed in my video gaming since the end of elementary school. As far as the whole "but it has deep, advanced tactics..." 1. Those are mostly glitches and exploitations of timing that weren't meant to be found by the intended audience of children, and certainly weren't found by them. 2. If enough young adults devote too much time and money to ANYTHING, the way they did Melee, or say DDR, they can find "something deeper". It still doesn't make the game fun, just more ways to achieve comic mischief. When I look at this game, it's what most people see when they look at South Park vs. GoldenEye or Halo. Is the jury still out on young adults devoting their time to things made for children, and attributing false, or unimportant meaning? Look at anime conventions... A game with kiddy music and boring characters made for children is still a game that doesn't appeal to me, especially when more "appropriate", well-developed games in the genre exist. I like the look and sound of a well thrown punch much more than I like the look and sound of a dinosaur turning into an egg and running me over. As Wade Filewich would say, "Stop that! That's Silly!" And as far as that depth, Nate, it exists in those Capcom games, yet I'm pretty sure I'm better at those giving half of my effort. I, however, will make an exception for Tetris Attack. That game is lovable. [/2cents] ::edit:: Go look for the intended audience on the case. For some reason, this game was made for Teen and above and America, yet in Europe, it's reccommended for anyone over the age of 3. I think Americans may just be stupid. Children cannot handle controlling the "Comic Mischief and Mild Violence" that they see in afternoon cartoons. |
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I played it for a couple weeks, but the way fighting carries out, something about the mechanics screams cheapness and not deep. Actually, of all the games I have played, I still think that it is the most balanced and fair games I have ever played. It is also fairly deep as party fighters go. Like, when I play Soul Calibur, it feels like a fighting game. When I play Street Fighter, it feels like a fighting game. When I play Tekken, it feels like a fighting game. When I play Mortal Kombat, it feels like a fighting game. When I play Smash Bros., I feel like I'm playing a game that was made for 10 year olds. Throwing turnips at my opponents, "cartoon violence", and comic mischief just lacks a certain seriousness that I've needed in my video gaming since the end of elementary school. Hey, if it is a good game, I'll play it. I enjoy the gameplay. If it was a bad game with a "serious" facelift I wouldn't care that much. Infact, that cliche fictious seriousness isn't that attractive anyways. Halo definately takes itself seriously, but I really don't like the game. Same with Tekken and any other number of video games marketed to a more mature audience. As far as the whole "but it has deep, advanced tactics..." 1. Those are mostly glitches and exploitations of timing that weren't meant to be found by the intended audience of children, and certainly weren't found by them. Don't be so sure that the intended audience was children. Note the success of the 64 Smash Bros. with older crowds. Nintendo knew it would sell to those some demographics and maybe even appeal to them more now, and it clearly has. Also, it is speculated that wave dashing was found by the developing teams before launch. This may or may not be true, but I don't really mind either way. It adds to the depth and quality of gameplay, I love Wave Dashing. Also, nearly all other advanced techniques are in no way glitches or harmful exploitations. For example, l-canceling was programed into the game and was also present in the 64 version as Z-canceling. Short hoping and fast falling is the same story. Shuffling is simply the skill to combine all of these inteded elements for maximum speed, accuracy, and maneuverability. In fact, of nearly all the practical advanced techniques possible, only wave dashing seems to be a real canidate as a glitch. 2. If enough young adults devote too much time and money to ANYTHING, the way they did Melee, or say DDR, they can find "something deeper". It still doesn't make the game fun, just more ways to achieve comic mischief. When I look at this game, it's what most people see when they look at South Park vs. GoldenEye or Halo. It's kind of hard to argue the point as it is in the eye of the beholder and simply a matter of taste. In my humble opinion, Melee is a very good game. I enjoy playing it more than nearly any other game at this period in time. Is the jury still out on young adults devoting their time to things made for children, and attributing false, or unimportant meaning? Look at anime conventions... Not exactly made for children. Also, I'm not attributing any kind of profound meaning to the game. I simply enjoy playing it. For entertainment. It's fun. And as far as that depth, Nate, it exists in those Capcom games, yet I'm pretty sure I'm better at those giving half of my effort. I like Capcom games. But, in reality, don't they have just about the same number of "glitches and exploitations?" Don't they have children like appeals and audiences? Heck, half of those games are comprised of comic book characters. Your arguments could be applied to a rather large number of Capcom fighting games. But, I still enjoy alot of them. I understand that depth exists in many of them as well. I should actually spend more time on some 2D fighters because I do enjoy them. However, I think that they are, on average, less developed, less fair, and less balanced than Super Smash Brother Melee. I, however, will make an exception for Tetris Attack. That game is lovable. Tetris Attack is a great game. One of my favorites. It is "childish" I guess, however the intellect and skill involved with being an advanced player is far from childish. The game play is fantastic. By far my favorite puzzle game of all time. I feel nearly the same about Melee, and I enjoy it. But, it's cool. Since you aren't down with Melee anymore, you can always help me out with CVS2. Or, we could do more important things than play video games, all depending. ![]() |
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"Don't they have children like appeals and audiences? Heck, half of those games are comprised of comic book characters. "
I was mostly talking of the SF canon and Darkstalker's canon series, not the spin-off's made in the mid/late 90's when Capcom was obviously on drugs, making crappy tag series. Have you played SFIII at all? "It is also fairly deep as party fighters go." Yeah. I don't like going to parties. Maybe this is why I don't like this game. "I enjoy playing it more than nearly any other game at this period in time." Someone owns a copy of Final Fight that they were probably enjoying more than any other game at that period of time. Did you ever learn how to wavedash at that game, or the infinite and throw combos? Come on, it's deep man! "Since you aren't down with Melee anymore, you can always help me out with CVS2. Or, we could do more important things than play video games, all depending." Or I can just hate you, and block you on AIM. Remember Destrega? No one else does either... |
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"Don't they have children like appeals and audiences? Heck, half of those games are comprised of comic book characters. " I was mostly talking of the SF canon and Darkstalker's canon series, not the spin-off's. "It is also fairly deep as party fighters go." Yeah. I don't like going to parties. Maybe this is why I don't like this game. "I enjoy playing it more than nearly any other game at this period in time." Someone owns a copy of Final Fight that they were probably enjoying more than any other game at that period of time. Did you ever learn how to wavedash at that game, or the infinite and throw combos? Come on, it's deep man! "Since you aren't down with Melee anymore, you can always help me out with CVS2. Or, we could do more important things than play video games, all depending." Or I can just hate you, and block you on AIM. You need to learn to use quotes. ![]() Party down! |
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![]() Cockadoodledoo Mother Fcuka!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,438 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 296,088 ![]() |
sadly i havnt been playing that much...but my friends are started to gather again and play so i might hav to get back into it!!!
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QUOTE Like, when I play Soul Calibur, it feels like a fighting game. When I play Street Fighter, it feels like a fighting game. When I play Tekken, it feels like a fighting game. When I play Mortal Kombat, it feels like a fighting game. When I play Smash Bros., I feel like I'm playing a game that was made for 10 year olds. Throwing turnips at my opponents, "cartoon violence", and comic mischief just lacks a certain seriousness that I've needed in my video gaming since the end of elementary school. Soul Calibur has nearly no real gore value. And weapon attacks, which is what the series is known for and is comprised mostly of, bring cartoonish sound effects and bright anime like flashes, and weapon movements are followed by purplish wave effects. Tekken has characters including a break dancing rastafarian, a Bruce Lee photocopy, and a leapord head wearing pro wrestler. The gore value is also limited, with punches striking with, again, bright flashes. Street Fighter starred Jean Claude Van Dam. Mortal Kombat was bad ass though. QUOTE Is the jury still out on young adults devoting their time to things made for children, and attributing false, or unimportant meaning? Look at anime conventions... The day a style of media in which Samurai X is classified is called "For Kids" is the day pigs fly. Anyway, I loved Killer Instinct. Streaming together a million hit combos was awesome. And it had cool characters. But that doesnt mean you, or I can't like something a bit on the cartoony side, especially when its as solid of a fighter as SSB is. Great and memorable characters, distinct and individual character strategies, excellent level involvement, fun bonuses, and a statistics page more detailed than anything, even GTA. man, I need toget this game again and hook up my GCN. |
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I need a Gamecube. Well I can get one for $90 with my Target discount.
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im shocked kryo. you dont have a gamecube?
lol but with that conversation on the top of the page about peach, i really wanna try her out. lol i play with pikachu and i think he is a unique character cause like he is very fast and can come back to the edge of the stage within a snap. but i am curious to see about peach im definately going to start playing with her. i didnt know they had tournaments for smash bros thats freaking awesome !~ |
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![]() Cockadoodledoo Mother Fcuka!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,438 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 296,088 ![]() |
peach is a very underrated charachter who is very nice to play with!! with good practice she is def a force to be reckoned with!!!
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i only use marth
i can use others but i feel i can only do damage with him link is my other character but marth, his speed and his power make me crazy man im not that good jeff but i can give u guys a hard time especially after playin it all the time at edgars lol w/e peace |
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but with that conversation on the top of the page about peach, i really wanna try her out. lol i play with pikachu and i think he is a unique character cause like he is very fast and can come back to the edge of the stage within a snap. but i am curious to see about peach im definately going to start playing with her. I'm glad you are going to give her a chance. Compared to Pikachu's abilities, I think you will be presently surprised at how much Peach can make up for her speed in her shear power. Also, her recovery is vastly superior to that of Pikachu's. Pika suffers from alot of lag in her Up-B recovery. Peach can virtually diminish all lag using her float to come back to the stage. In adition to her floating abilities, her Up-B ensures an even more refined recovery. peach is a very underrated charachter who is very nice to play with!! with good practice she is def a force to be reckoned with!!! ![]() |
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Heh, Super Smash Bros.: Melee is one of my all-time favorite games. I manage to kick people's butt with Zelda/Sheik. I know everybody starts running when I use Sheik's whip.
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