... lol according to you, maybe.

Look I don't disagree that there shouldn't be a whit history month but every month except for feburaray is white history month to say that blacks are getting all the attetion is a little annoying and it get's on my nerves it took america this long to acknoledge us no there all huffy because they fill were getting too muck acknoledgement sorry about the misspelling

Unrecognized?

What history book refers to "white people" in a positive way? It can refer to individual whites like Thomas Jefferson or George Washington positively, but American history books almost never talk about the white race, except in a demeaning manner. Whenever a white person gets recognition in a history book, it's as a person not as a white person.

Then look at its treatment of Native- and African-Americans. Almost exclusively positive; about how they were able to protect their culture in the heat of adversity, about all the shit they've had to deal with, etc. Black people can get recognition much more easily than White people--take Sally Hemmings. She f**ked Thomas Jefferson; big deal, Presidents had mistresses. She's basically only remembered because she's black--can you name FDR's mistress? I mean, she f**ked a guy in a wheelchair--that's a much bigger accomplishment than Thomas Jefferson. The only other Presidential mistress that comes close in fame is JFK's and that's because she was already famous to begin with. Everyone knows WEB DuBois was the first black person to graduate from Harvard... but can you name the first white person? The first Asian?

Or look at how much of history is dedicated to the terrible conditions slaves were in, when it has been statistically proven by Nobel Prize winner Robert Fogel that Southern slaves were materially (though perhaps not psychologically) better off than Northern industrial workers. Even in the South, when a plantation master wanted a dangerous job done, he hired a white wage laborer, and didn't use a slave that he had put so much money into. But how much recognition do Irish factory workers and swamp drainers get relative to black slaves? Close to none.

Whenever a black person does something good, it seems the entire race gets the glory from it. This isn't true for white people--it's folly to say that the two groups get equal treatment by politically correct US society.

please read the thread.

the whole "every month is white history month" thing gets tiring after having to explain 7 times why that's not a legiment argument for this debate.

A professor of mine (black) stated that he felt making a "black history month" was not racist against whites, but against blacks. He hates the title. He doesn't want a month set aside, he said. He felt every day of the year should be a black history kind of day, more or less. Of course, this struck me as just a tad bit odd. There's a month that's nationally set aside for learning about his race's history and progress... and it's racist?

But at the same time, I got to thinking... What if there was a "Korean history month". I'd feel a little strange about it too.

Then why not bring this up in the "White History Month?" topic since the discussion headed that way in the thread's progress.

Because I'm talking about a black person believing it's against blacks... I didn't read through the 31 pages of posts. I only searched that there wasn't a thread focusing on this. If there a place where that was discussed... please lead me there.

edit: Ah, wait. I see. Feel free to merge.

^ Edit: Will do

Topics merged.

This post has been edited by Madame C: Feb 2 2006, 04:24 PM

Yeah, Lucy Mercer, haha. She held FDR's hand at Warm Springs while he died. And the only reason I know this is because my Government teacher in high school was twisted. So I see your point.

Umm...I don't really think there should be any history month...But I think the reason for that is because of the years of slavery. I mean, there are other races that suffered, like the chinese(I believed they were forced to build the Great Wall, and if they didn't, they'll be great consiquence), Jews(Biblical Times), Filipino(from Spaniards), Mexicans(I believe spaniards also), etc. There are others, but I don't know who they are. I say lets just forget about it, and let the teachers teach it in history, instead of observing it in the whole month. I believe that all man and woman should "be" equal, but not created equal. Since people were born poor and some born wealthy.

I mean, shouldn't we just appreciate that we, or they or everyone got it good, only the ones who are not suffering. People from, Africa(not sure which countries), Asia, Mexico, and other countries are suffering badly, more than we are. For example, in Negros, in the Philippines, kids are the age of 4 and up, work in mines trying to look for mercury, which can kill you if swallowed, for less than 1 american dollar. While risking their limbs and life, incase the mine falls apart. And a Family of 6 live in a room with the area of 6 ft squared. And living with other families in the house. Now, those kids risk it so they'll have something to eat, for the day, but only if they find what they are looking for(gold, mercury, silver, etc.). If they're injured, well, their lucky to be alive, even if they aren't rushed to the hospital(happens most of the time) because they have no money for medical treatment.

I agree with that 100%. It's not like we can go back and change it now though.

I agree here. I feel like because our ancestors were bad to blacks, we have to pay for it, seeing them get more glory than we do. I'm not a racists, but this topic actually came up the other day between my friend and I "why is there no white history month? Do we not have history as well?"

Well, maybe think of it this way: every other month is a white month.

on the same page too.

tsk. tsk.

No not really. Every month we study wars and other historical subjects in history or social studies that have white people as big impacts on them. We don't obsess over those people in lessons, but we study what had occurred. Sure there are months where we dedicate white individuals but it's not every month. There's no such thing as, "Sure let's celebrate this white dude on July, and this other dude on August." No, presidents are honored on some months yes and yes but we don't honor white people every month. If we did, everyone no matter what grade (besides 1st, 2nd, and 3rd graders) would be writing essays about white people every time of the month and say why they're heroic.

i second that

Well to me i think there should not be any history months because well it is some form of discrimination in a way but then it's not. What does get me mad is that there are scholarships for people of a certain race when not every race has a scholarship or whatever for them. But then in history what race is most of the people you are learning about?

What some people dont know is who all has a month for them.Some dont get reconize as much.Like there is a hispanic,italian-american,scottish-american, irish-american, native-american, women(i think most people know there is)

So what gets me mad is the month most people reconize is Black History Month when there are months for other races yet they don't get any attention?

What do you learn during Black History Month that you wouldn't have known otherwise? George Washington Carver made peanut butter? Whoopee. The history of Africans and African-Americans that is actually relevant to the history of mankind and did something to affect the world I've learned outside of black history month.

What, you think if there was no black history month, we'd never learn about Martin Luther King, Jr.? Please. The man was extremely influential to our country and changed what was happening. Without him, our history would be different. That's what history class is for. Learning what people did to make today what it is and to learn not to make the same mistakes. That's why we learn about a lot of white people in U.S. History because during our country's history, there was more influential white people than black. I'm not saying that to be offensive; it's true - black people didn't have the opportunity to be extremely influential here until recently.

Really, all I've gotten out of black history month is learning about some people who really did nothing to change history and did nothing that affected others. Those that were relevant to our lives, I knew anyway. I didn't need black history month to know.

Well where i live we learned stuff like that not even in feb. but maybe its cuz i live in the south and we learn stuff like that when we learned our state's history(al) and well i dont know what others mean when they say they only learn about whites in their history class for we dont.Last year we learned about religions and well trust me they werent all about whites.

Plus i know some african-americans that said they think they dont need a month.

Exactly. I don't live in the South and, frankly, I think Indiana is one of the least-black states out there, yet we still learn about African history throughout the year. I think people are exaggerating how little they know about blacks both internationally and nationally.

Not at all. In no way do people exaggerate how little they know about influential blacks. Not until my freshman year in high school did I know who Maya Angelou was, and I learned during an all-school assembly in February. I can say the same about Toni Morrison, and others.

Do you even know what white is? White is a mixture of European races... White people where not just born white.. they were mix... If there were a white history month, which race would everyone celebrate? or There are too many races to cover, and America is too lazy for that...

^ the same can be said about blacks.

If there were to be a White History Month, there should be a:
Hispanic History Month
Asian History Month
Middle Eastern History Month
Mixed History Month

THERE IS AN ASIAN HISTORY MONTH GODDAMN

No one knows about it, thus reinforcing the point that some races get MORE recognition, perhaps too much, than others!