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Euthanasia, assisted killing |
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![]() i'm too cool 4 school ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 ![]() |
That is a hard question. I hate suicide because it is sucha selfish thing and really hurts the ones who loved the one who took their life. I don't know what i'd want done to me in that situation, but if the person did not request it it shouldn't be done. Like in the case here in gA the mother killed her two sons who were dying from Hodgkins disease(it might have been another disease i'm not sure i'll research it)
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Also, is it not painful for the loved ones around you to see you go through that pain for that long, knowing you're going to die?
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It totally depends on the person. If he/she is in so much pain that they can not bear it, and they agree, THEN they can take it. But if they still have the willpower to live, absolutly not.
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OF COURSE it should be allowed, itz a persons own choice to kill himself or get killed. Why should the government have control over this.
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i think it should be available and if they choose to take that road, then it should be discreet and confidential if yknow what i mean.
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 12 2004, 9:21 PM) I think it should be used but available only as a last resort... but then again, what if you kill yourself, and then a cure if found on the next day? L0LS THAT W0ULD BE LIKE UMM...N0T FAIR!! L0LS BUT W0W.. NEVER KNEW AB0UT THAT...DANG NATALIE U SURE N0 A L0T! NEWAIS YEAH... I THINK IT SHUD BE AVAILABLE F0R USE...JUST IN CASE. . . ![]() |
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 14 2004, 5:15 PM) Also, is it not painful for the loved ones around you to see you go through that pain for that long, knowing you're going to die? thats true right there, there gonna care, i don know why people do it anyway... ![]() |
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suicide is stupid, but i don't see why it's illegal. who's gunna press charges if you kill yourself? you sure can't, and your loved ones can't sue a dead person.
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QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 5 2004, 12:21 AM) suicide is stupid, but i don't see why it's illegal. who's gunna press charges if you kill yourself? you sure can't, and your loved ones can't sue a dead person. the law against suicide is there to deter people from commiting suicide. if they are caught and are stopped before they kill themselves, they get in trouble but if they die, what can you do, they're dead. |
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![]() teach me korean... i'm serious ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 918 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,427 ![]() |
definitally allowed... u want a slow painfull death or a quick painless one?
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but you can't play God like that.... think about it, even though you are suffering, and going through a horrible time, there is still so much you can do.
You have time to be with your family, apologize for hurts.... and so on, and once that is over, you may not know what influence you have on others, but it doesn't mean you dont have any, take this for ex: a young man is contemplating suicide and hears that there is a man, who has been in a car crash, has his legs amputated and is told due to heart damage he has year to live, which must be spent in a hospital, and this man chooses to live. This man sees how much more someone can suffer than him, and realizes he doesn't have it so bad, hence, you ( the man with no legs) saved a man's life by choosing to live. There are holes in my example I realize but I don't have time to give a real good one right now. |
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i support assisted killing, but only for the terminally ill. and they would have to sign a consent form. if they can choose to not be resuscitated (sp?) then why cant they die peacefully? makes sense to me.
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QUOTE(HiddenSmile @ Sep 18 2005, 6:19 PM) but you can't play God like that.... think about it, even though you are suffering, and going through a horrible time, there is still so much you can do. You have time to be with your family, apologize for hurts.... and so on, and once that is over, you may not know what influence you have on others, but it doesn't mean you dont have any, take this for ex: a young man is contemplating suicide and hears that there is a man, who has been in a car crash, has his legs amputated and is told due to heart damage he has year to live, which must be spent in a hospital, and this man chooses to live. This man sees how much more someone can suffer than him, and realizes he doesn't have it so bad, hence, you ( the man with no legs) saved a man's life by choosing to live. There are holes in my example I realize but I don't have time to give a real good one right now. What makes it your responsibility to set such an example to other people? |
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
QUOTE(HiddenSmile @ Sep 18 2005, 5:19 PM) but you can't play God like that.... think about it, even though you are suffering, and going through a horrible time, there is still so much you can do. You have time to be with your family, apologize for hurts.... and so on, and once that is over, you may not know what influence you have on others, but it doesn't mean you dont have any, take this for ex: a young man is contemplating suicide and hears that there is a man, who has been in a car crash, has his legs amputated and is told due to heart damage he has year to live, which must be spent in a hospital, and this man chooses to live. This man sees how much more someone can suffer than him, and realizes he doesn't have it so bad, hence, you ( the man with no legs) saved a man's life by choosing to live. There are holes in my example I realize but I don't have time to give a real good one right now. ... what can vegetables do exactly that's 'so much' in your point of view? again, you seem to think everyone is strong. indeed, each of us has the capabilities to be strong, but the source our strengths may differs as night and day. have you ever seen someone you love in so much pain that she wishes she'd die and you want the same because it grieves you to see her in unbearable pain? my aunt had cervical cancer that spread throughout her body and those sentiments i mentioned were felt by all who loved her. she wanted to live for those who will survive her, but the cancer set physical limitations. no, she didn't use euthanasia because she was Catholic and the decision was made before she realize she'd be in that much pain. guess what? the pain was so intolerable and she could not eat, drink, nor spoke. we watched as she died in hunger and pain. you have to understand, some people DO HAVE IT BAD and need the last resort. |
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 14 2004, 6:10 PM) That is a hard question. I hate suicide because it is sucha selfish thing and really hurts the ones who loved the one who took their life. selfish? But ethunasia are for people who suffer incurable diseases that cause them daily pain. The relatives don't know what kind of pain the patient suffers. They don't know what hardships they live through. if the patient wants the lethal injection, let them have it. I think it should be allowed. but there are some cases in which a psycho quak would go in a hospital and inject every patient living with incurable diseases with euthanasia without asking or legally getting permission. In those cases, I'd say no euthanasia. Basically if euthanaisa becomes legal, I want professional doctors to have only access to that and whenever Euthanasia is performed, the lawyer of the patient or relative of the patient should be there to witness it. |
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This is a really difficult subject. The people who vote on and create these laws often don't have these problems. I do not suffer from a terminal disease. So I can't possibly know what goes on in the mind of these poor people. But as we all know, everyone can very well assume what might they might do. I assume that after living with a debilitating(sp) diease for a while, I'd probably want to die. I understand why someone who is suffering daily and has been for a great while would want to kill themselves. I mean, if a cure isn't found in time, they're most likely going to die anyway.
It's just so hard on their families though. We all want our loved ones to live as long as possible. But we must ask ourselves. Are these people really living? What kind of life do they have? To me its just one filled with sadness and sorrow. All they(and their families) seem to want is a cure, a relief. Which sadly, many don't get that cure and only death brings their relief. The lucky get that relief swiftly. But many aren't given that gift. So I say we should let people die if they want to. I think the only requirement should be that they are of sound mind. But that in itself is a big question. How can someone suffering like that be of a sound mind? I don't know. But perhaps in situations like this, we could get them some sort of mental evaluation? I'm not sure. But if we can't find the cures, I just hope we can find some credible way to give these people relief. ![]() |
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i don't think that it should be banned. instead, it should be the patient's choice.
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its scary you kno..its like injecting yourself with poison and killing yourself. =(
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QUOTE(HiddenSmile @ Sep 18 2005, 3:19 PM) but you can't play God like that.... think about it, even though you are suffering, and going through a horrible time, there is still so much you can do. You have time to be with your family, apologize for hurts.... and so on, and once that is over, you may not know what influence you have on others, but it doesn't mean you dont have any, take this for ex: a young man is contemplating suicide and hears that there is a man, who has been in a car crash, has his legs amputated and is told due to heart damage he has year to live, which must be spent in a hospital, and this man chooses to live. This man sees how much more someone can suffer than him, and realizes he doesn't have it so bad, hence, you ( the man with no legs) saved a man's life by choosing to live. There are holes in my example I realize but I don't have time to give a real good one right now. This is kind of off-topic, but your signature...wow. You're pretty passionate. You might need to find yourself a hobby. |
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QUOTE(HiddenSmile @ Sep 18 2005, 6:19 PM) but you can't play God like that.... think about it, even though you are suffering, and going through a horrible time, there is still so much you can do. You have time to be with your family, apologize for hurts.... and so on, and once that is over, you may not know what influence you have on others, but it doesn't mean you dont have any, take this for ex: a young man is contemplating suicide and hears that there is a man, who has been in a car crash, has his legs amputated and is told due to heart damage he has year to live, which must be spent in a hospital, and this man chooses to live. This man sees how much more someone can suffer than him, and realizes he doesn't have it so bad, hence, you ( the man with no legs) saved a man's life by choosing to live. There are holes in my example I realize but I don't have time to give a real good one right now. I know I'm late, but BLEH let me state my opinion. Euthanasia is (usually) recommended to people who are in much more serious cases such as cancer, paralysis, vegetated state, or any other diseases that cause intolerable pain. Doctors only refer to it when they lose hope on the patient. (May I add that the example you gave is vague). Euthanasia isn't made for people with depression. Besides, I don't see how someone who is in too much pain to move can do much. |
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All I know so far is that more than 85 percent of the U.S states do not allow assisted suicide.
And for those who don't know what it is... it is when you basically kill yourself, with the help of a medical worker. I don't remember what state does, but somewhere in West US they say if a person wants to die and live no longer, then we should help them get what they want. What do you guys think about it? |
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i think thats stupid 85% of people want to live after an attempt in suicide so the best way to "help" some one would be to advise them to or take them to a doctor.
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QUOTE i think thats stupid 85% of people want to live after an attempt in suicide so the best way to "help" some one would be to advise them to or take them to a doctor. agreed |
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