Today, we had the special friday announcements on the TV. So theres this black girl that came from the heart of Africa. she is so whitewashed but we have this writing contest and the title is suppose to be *I Wonder Why* and she goes on the announcements and says "I wonder why im black. Why cant I just be white and fit in"

It pissed every black person in school and all the white people said it was only a joke. To me, it made me sooo mad. just because shes from the motherland and all and shes basically degrading the black population at school. now the blacks at school, there is about 20-30 blacks in a school of 1,200. Now I honestly think me and other black people have every right to be mad.

What do you think? If you are black, would you be angry too? if not state why

I agree. Go Radhika.

well thinking about what she said, and comparing it to my experience comming from the Soviet Union I have a few ideas.

Comming from Africa, she dosn't think like Americans, and that includes Afro-Americans. There were times in my life, when a certain group of Russian people would so something stupid and made Russians in the area look real bad, and it was in these moments, where inside you felt shame that a person from the same race could do something like that. I remember in those moments, not having a problem with saying, that Russians are a bit messed up and trashing on my own race to bring to light what happened. But I only did this because I was also proud. Its very interesting, but I wouldn't rule out that, this girl being in fact proud of being black and "true" African would say she wished she was white as if seperating herself from the afro-Americans in order to protect her native people. Maybe she only said that to show people she strongly disagrees with the way blacks in her school behave, a way of protest?

yay i agree with you about something^ yeah you'd be surprised of what true africans think about us african americans. thats why i think its funny when some black kids go "you dont act black" to other black kids. like who are we to say who acts "black" or not we're not even true africans. and you know africans dont act like what people consider "black" in america

people should be happy about what race they are. but if i had to choose to be whatever race, i wouldnt choose white. theres just too many white people in this world. heh..*runs away from the white mob holding torches and pitch forks*

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Ok, for the last time, not all white people are racist, and not only white people are racist.

Thought I'd put that out there. Just..for future clearance.

^ Actually, i think black ppl are more racist than whites...

Everyone one is racist, almost everyone, to a certain extent. Whites being racist has a much more far-reaching impact because they are more often than not, in positions of power.

true. it just seems like the whitesfears the blacks more so they dont do anything about it. hah.

I'm not really sure which way to go. I'f she wants to be white, let her grow up then do the same thing as MJ but still I wanted to be black for a while(I'm white) in elementary school cause my brother and I were like the only white kids there. But I didn't cause then I wouldn't be unique.

lol ooooooookay!

Excuse me? Can you explain that, please?

Isn't it self-explanatory? There are more white people in managerial positions than black. It's not to say there aren't black CEOs, managers etc. but the status quo is what I said earlier.

White South Africans for example, many are racist {if you're comfortable with the word), they had much of the wealth although they weren't the majority of the population. In other African countries, whites make up less than 10% of the populace but own 85% of the wealth so in that sense, they are bigots who affect the lives of blacks and use "racism" and prejudice to their advantage.

Anyone can be a bigot, some are guilty of self-hatred but economically, socially, "racism" by whites can be far more damaging to society.

i'm racist against asians. i try not to associate with them if they aren't whitewashed or twinkified or something like that.

but i'm still lumped in with asians. `sigh.

omg, you cant be that oblivious



yes, therefore thats why when you guys in that white history month topic, are all saying "its not equal! blacks say racist stuff to us!" it not taken seriously because that doesnt have any impact on society at all. when whites were racist, it went down to the political roots, blacks had no rights, and were treated like crap. you wont see african americans ever having the power to take rights away from white people, i mean seriously you wont ever see black people having the power to make a law that whites have to sit in the back of the bus, or make no whites aloud signs on aboout every restaurant. the fact of the matter is, caucasions are the most dominant race in the U.S. yes,
this is a fact, black people know it, hispanics know it, Asians know it, and whites know it (at least ones that aren’t oblivious). discrimination usually goes all the way down to political roots, such as in the past. discrimination usually regards in the deprivation of peoples rights correct? i mean if you really wanna accuse of discrimination now-a-days, that in some way has to happen.
and tell me, what rights have african americans, CAN african americans take away from caucasions? im mean seriously, are you honestly saying they have that much power in america? i mean c'mon. i shouldnt even have to go there. but i guess i do with some people.

Oh, that's good, use a country who just got rid of their segregation only a little over a decade ago......

Ya know, if these people were taught it was culturally acceptable to be so racist for such a long time and then they have segregation, those that had grown up and gone through life being taught to be racist will still be racist. That's why there's still racism in America. People who lived their lives being taught to be racist only know racism, and are teaching that to their children.

But really, how many people in our generation do you know that are really racist? I mean, sure, people steretype, but everyone stereotypes about everything. How many kids do you know that would support slavery? That agree with segregation? Those are the people that are going to be powerful. There are a lot of nonwhites in powerful positions today (Condoleeza Rice, anyone? Clarence Thomas?), a lot more than there ever were before. Those who were growing up as children being taught racism are those who are getting positions today. As our country grows and gets older, the people will as well. When the younger people of our country today get older and get into those powerful positions, things will change, just as they do every day.

your missing the point, she never said that there isnt any blacks in powerful positions. are you trying to actually argue the fact that caucasions are the most dominant race in this country? i mean c'mon. you cant be that naive. its just a big coincidence that we have all white presidents? majority ofthe people in our gov. and running our political system is caucasions.and america is a primarily caucasion country correct? (hence the reason other races are called minorities)
and like i said before, even jesus is depicted as white, the religion that this country is based on, christianity, the being worshipped is depicted as caucasion. though factually it would prove otherwise, because even in the bible, jesus was described as having bronze skin and woolly hair
but instead jesus is portrayed as this:
which makes no real sense seeing as his location.
condeleeza may have a powerful position, but the person that gave her her job was white.


i cant believe your actually arguing this.

so americas sexist too.

because we've never had a female president.

we must also be anti-semitic too, seeing as we've never had a jewish president.

im afraid im still not convinced.



everyone's fallen prey to "reverse racism". people are so worried about being racist towards blacks that they end up being super..nice to them and then .. denying caucasians...

im trying to tie in affirmative action.

omg okay, this is getting sad

Denying caucasions of what!? DO YOU HONESTLY THINK CAUCASIONS ARENT THE DOMINANT RACE IN AMERICA!? come on this is like.... denial. and how so is america being overly nice to blacks? please tell me, a black person, right to my face, how blacks are being over compensated for. and again what are caucasions being denied of?????? like they are being done wrong do you know how silly that sounds??? oh yeah, the minorites are controlling everything in america, and whites are being done wrong. thats just stupid.

this is really......sad.

and oh yeah, it is actually pretty bad that all of our presidents are all white male christians. and nothing else. would this be so if minorities took dominance over america? dont you guys realize, that races alot of times try to prove themselves to white people? there is a reason this girl said "i wish i was white" she didnt say hispanic, asian, indian,native american. she said white
minorities when they get wierd and wish to be another race. they dont wish to be another minority, they wsh to be white. why? because they feel they'll be more accepted. god, i cant believe i have to go there. its pretty sad that you guys dont know that america, whether you want to believe it or not, is primarily ran by caucasions.



bijou basically hit the nail on the head here. are you honestly gonna argue thats not true?

this is why i never bring up my point. because im usually viewed as some kind of a racist.

first off, im not a racist. ive been saying this entire topic that i would like to abolish the concept of races and unite us as one country.


but, my point still stands. i should have used a thesaurus though... denial was definitely not the right word

i think that some people... colleges and.. i dont know, businesses, that were once .. definitely prejudiced against blacks, are now overcompensating to make sure that they're not racist. and in doing so, there are more scholarships for african americans.

honestly, ive looked. 1/3 of the scholarships are just for african americans.







please dont view me as a racist. im not. i have an opinion, and im just stating it.

im not saying your racist or prejudiced, i never once said you were. and when i said america is primarily ran by caucasions doesnt mean america is prejudiced. it is just primarily ran by caucasions. nothing more.

Sure there are more caucasians, I'm not arguing that fact. I'm arguing that some of the little extras that minorities get aren't really needed anymore. Do you really think you should get five extra points than me on your standardized tests simply because our skin color is different? Are you THAT disadvantaged at this very moment, completely due to your race? (Keep in mind you may not know me, or my background, or my life.) If myself and a black girl applied to the same college with the same credentials, she would get in and I would not, simply because I am white. Some things that we have strived to change and make equal seem to be reversing.

^ i was actually just talking about this with a friend of mine (we kinda ..diverged from the topic in history class).

well, we were talking about affirmative action, which it seems like you're talking about.

its seems like america is so...afraid of being racist to minorities that they are overcompensating and offering those minorities more opportunities and benefits, while... lessening the opportunities for whites.

i mean, just because i didnt grow up in the projects and im white doesnt make me any less intelligent. if theres someone that is equally as intelligent as me, but is a minority, they will get into a college instead of me.

it seems like white people are against affirmative action, but minorites are for it. and honestly, that shows me that ya'll still feel like you're minor. well, you're not. just because theres less of those races in America (which is not true in houston. theres more hispanics than whites) doesnt make them any more deserving than any others.

edit: for sammi's post

i mean what are you trying to say? since you said you both have the same credentials, and the college could only choose one, wouldnt it also be wrong if the college picked you instead? so its a no win situation. so when it comes down to it, and you guys are basically the same, the college can only pick who would be more beneficial to them, a black person to diverse their college, makes them look better. i mean what else can they do? they would do the same if it was a mostly black college, they would pick a white person over a black person to make themselves look better.

and what you said about if a black girl and you have the same credentials and the school would pick the black girl instead anyways. that not necessarily true. the only time that happens is when the school has a very low percentage of blacks, and they want to make themselves look better.Its not like its the law. you say like thats the case all the time. more of the time its vice versa, for example, true story, my dad once applied for a higher position at his job a few years ago. he's was District manager of best buy.(which means he manages all the best buys in his district). now, he was competing with a white guy, who happened to be my dad's friend. his name was Kurt. my dad had a way better record than kurt, and better credentials and everything. and my dad was working at that position longer. but guess what? Kurt got the Job. Now my dad could've went on about how Kurt got the job for no Justified reason, and he couldve even made comments about "what if i was white? would things have turned out different?" but he didnt. my dad was dissapointed, but never said anything about "its because of he was white" so i dont understand why you guys are so quick to jump to that conclusion every time a black person beats you out in something. besides, look at the college that your going to, there is most likely going to be about only 3% of blacks in the freakin' school. so big flippin' deal if one black beats you out in something. and the blacks getting 5 extra points thing, i know thats not rue, maybe in some places, but not everywhere, heck not in most places. so you shouldnt generalize a thing that they may do where you live and assume thats what happens everywhere. because i definately wouldnt agree with getting 5 extra points because im black.

its true! even though i dont know any relatives from africa I respect all the african culture and how they live. I wouldnt change races. Why become one of those who dont respect you [i mean generally, not all white, asian, or hispanic people]



um, are you serious? being racist to any race is wrong.


edit for the thousanth time:: its really weird because after i replied to this i saw my sister had a paper for this years Reflections Essay-
"I Wonder Why" lol its probably the same one.

This post has been edited by one_and_only: Nov 7 2005, 09:33 PM

-agrees-