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post Oct 28 2005, 06:00 PM
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whee..im back...for a very short while.

today, we were discussing this topic (should women be drafted into the army?) during english.

and then i thought...createblog!

so what's your take on it?
 
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post Oct 28 2005, 06:07 PM
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i think you mean allowed into battles, instead of drafting. drafting of women isnt going to happen until they've been drafting men for a looong time.
 
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post Oct 28 2005, 06:15 PM
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post Oct 28 2005, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(insomniac @ Oct 28 2005, 6:07 PM)
i think you mean allowed into battles, instead of drafting. drafting of women isnt going to happen until they've been drafting men for a looong time.
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nope.
i meant drafting.

...this situation is hypothetical in that the draft was discontinued in '73. so it only applies to emergencies and ...say, ww3.

and...they have been drafting men for a long time.
one of the earliest forms of drafting was done during the civil war when there were shortages of men to fight.
 
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post Oct 28 2005, 06:46 PM
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i meant that they'd need to have re-initiated the draft for a least a year before they'd even consider drafting women.
 
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post Nov 1 2005, 03:15 PM
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it draft the most able bodied people first. i agree that men have a highr endurance and are stronger. so naturally, they would draft men first.

plus, women take over the vacanted jobs and breed more soldiers (i keed).
 
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post Nov 1 2005, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Oct 28 2005, 6:15 PM)
Yes, women are generally tougher than men.
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But I don't want to be drafted.
 
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post Nov 1 2005, 05:29 PM
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I'm all for equal rights but men instinctively will protect women.

Example...

My cousin is in Iraq and there just so happens to be an ex-Coors Light Model/Hooters Waitress/Stripper in his regiment. In Fallujah, he told me how 11 guys were more concerned with protecting the only female present than focusing primarily on their assigned task. As a result, he took a bullet to the arm and two guys were killed (oh, and it didn't make the news).

If women get drafted for battle over office/hospital/control room work, then it might take some time for males to grow accustomed to truly treating women like equals. During that time, men will die.
 
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post Nov 2 2005, 08:41 PM
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If we ran out of men then we'd have no choice.. but... as far as I see it that won't be happening anytime soon so yea...
 
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post Nov 2 2005, 09:56 PM
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if women are willing, then those women should. i personally wouldnt want to be drafted.
 
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post Nov 2 2005, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(aera @ Nov 2 2005, 9:56 PM)
if women are willing, then those women should. i personally wouldnt want to be drafted.
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*Willing* women would willingly volunteer for the military....
 
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post Nov 2 2005, 11:30 PM
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When you're drafted, it is against your will. If a war breaks out, most people don't run up to their local Army recruiter saying, "Pick me! Pick me! I wanna be put on the frontline!!!"
 
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post Nov 2 2005, 11:33 PM
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sure it's against your will.. but some people would say that about jury duty as well.
 
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Fcuk jury duty. The state wasted 11 days of my time and gave me 27 dollars for it. That means I missed anywhere from 88-100 hours of work and could've had (with commission, after taxes) like a grand in my pocket.
 
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post Nov 4 2005, 09:48 PM
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im against drafting, period. but since it does happen, i thhink it would be fair to also draft women. men are not better/stronger than women and most of todays society knows that, they're just too lazy to update the law.
 
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post Nov 7 2005, 03:14 AM
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QUOTE(Retrogressive @ Nov 1 2005, 4:48 PM)
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But I don't want to be drafted.
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Neither do I, but if the draft were to be reinstated, I wouldn't have a choice. sad.gif

QUOTE(aznxdreamer @ Nov 4 2005, 9:48 PM)
im against drafting, period. but since it does happen, i thhink it would be fair to also draft women. men are not better/stronger than women and most of todays society knows that, they're just too lazy to update the law.
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Men are naturally stronger than women. I think women tend to be more emotional than men as well (menstraution and what-not) so that may also be a "weakness" (for lack of a better word) of militarizing women.

I think that women should be drafted. Women have argued for years to be treated equally amongst men, but so far they've only been fighting for certain, opportunistic areas. This is in no way a "men are better than women" response, just pointing out that if women want equal rights, you should get equal rights in everything not this and that.

This also brings up many fronts that have failed in this. Example: Women aren't allowed to serve in combat anymore. (I think.) They can serve in the military, however, yet not in combat. Say, average DnD nerd gets drafted to the military. Lanky, non-muscular and passive. I'm sure there are thousands of women that would operate better in a war situation than he would.

Yes, women should be required to sign up for the Selective Service, but should be given a much lower exemption age than men.
 
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post Nov 9 2005, 12:43 AM
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I agree with Evan.

It's true that if women have been fighting for years to be considered equal as men, that not only comes with the same freedoms and rights but responsibilities.

Naturally, men are generally considered physically stronger than women, but that's in general, and as the example stated above, there are "lanky, non-muscular, passive" men who could have women better suited to fight in their place.

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I think women tend to be more emotional than men as well (menstraution and what-not) so that may also be a "weakness" (for lack of a better word) of militarizing women.


Not really a weakness, but more of a disadvantage. That's also making a bit of a generalization when you say women tend to be more emotional than men, because there are some woman out there completely fit for the job of fighting in combat. The only problem is that the idea of women staying off the battlefield and staying alive to give birth and compensate for the drop in population due to casualities is more acceptable to the common public.

Plus - much like the idea of marriage, drafting has been a long established standard since ancient times - and it would seem preposterous to most to have woman drafted, even though the typical idea that women should "stay at home and take care of the children" is a concept that's long since diminished.

Personally, I'd hate to be drafted, but I assume so would a man getting drafted as well. So yes, women as well should get drafted if we're fighting to continue to have equal rights, or at least make it seem fair to the male population of America.
 
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post Nov 15 2005, 02:45 PM
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women should choose wheter or not they want to go
 
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post Nov 18 2005, 06:38 PM
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^agreed.
only those who are willing should get drafted
 
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post Nov 18 2005, 07:15 PM
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Most women are tougher than men MENTALLY , not PHYSICALY. And plz dont get offended its the truth.

do i think women should be drafted? Nope, now let me finish.

do i think men should be drafted? NOPE.

I dont think anyone should be drafted , because alot of people that are draft dont want to be there, and arent fit for the job. its better to train the soldiers you got really well rather than having a shitload of people who arent passionate and fit for the job.
 
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post Nov 19 2005, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(aera @ Nov 2 2005, 7:56 PM)
if women are willing, then those women should. i personally wouldnt want to be drafted.
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well when ur drafted u arent really choosing to go right? well i wouldnt want to be. and since families need there moms espeically maybe they shouldnt be drafted.
 
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post Nov 21 2005, 03:48 PM
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If women want to have equal rights everywhere else, hell yes women should be drafted.
 
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post Nov 21 2005, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(agirlnamed_aly @ Nov 9 2005, 12:43 AM)
The only problem is that the idea of women staying off the battlefield and staying alive to give birth and compensate for the drop in population due to casualities is more acceptable to the common public.
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The drop in population? Correct me, but the last time I heard, women needed men in order to procreate and vice versa. Millions of men have died in combat, and women are still procreating these days. There's always going to be people who won't get drafted.
 
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post Nov 21 2005, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(not_your_average @ Nov 21 2005, 1:59 PM)
The drop in population? Correct me, but the last time I heard, women needed men in order to procreate and vice versa. Millions of men have died in combat, and women are still procreating these days. There's always going to be people who won't get drafted.
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Well during World War II the population may not have dropped [except for the soldiers dying] but with no guys there it wasnt growing...

and then after the war a whole buch of kids were born. kind off topic n e way.
 
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QUOTE(one_and_only @ Nov 21 2005, 11:47 PM)
Well during World War II the population may not have dropped [except for the soldiers dying] but with no guys there it wasnt growing...

and then after the war a whole buch of kids were born. kind off topic n e way.
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Technically, yes, there was a drop in population during WW 2, but logic tells us that after every recess, there is a boom.
 

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