So would heterosexuality be considered just a fetish also???

yes, but marriage and love are not sexual and are not classified as such.

So by your theory if two gay men were to be married that wouldn't be considered a "fetish".

that was one of the most ignorant things i've ever heard in my life lol, seriously

a "fetish"?

that was so blunt and stupid it's obvious u don't know what you're talking about lol

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saying that you aren't born gay is like saying if you're falling off a cliff you haven't hit the bottom.

sure, you aren't born gay. but you will be gay. just because it doesn't manefest doesnt' mean it's not going to happen.

An excellent way of putting it.

i think it has to do with certain chromosomes or hormones getting mixed up in men and women making them attracted to the same sex.

so, i think some people are born gay

Are you born a thief? Are you born a murderer? Are you born a rapist? Are you born a whore? Are you born a racist? Are you born an atheist? Are you born a Christian? Are you born straight? Are you born president? Are you born a judge? Are you born a talk show host? Are you born a convict? Are you born anything else other than human? NO.


So by your standard of reading, see spot run is an epic novel containing the events leading up to the sinking of atlantis?


Describe homosexuality, then describe any other fetish.

well i dunno.

see, i have a girl fetish.

if a girl has certain qualities, that turns me on.

exactly, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out lol




I don't need to, I think you just need to talk to a gay person and this debate would be over........or u could take psychology, then u'd actually learn something you don't know anything about and be a little less biased too.

I believe sikdragon is trying to say what I have been saying the whole time. Gender is only a quality to be attracted to, just like hair color or body type.

Oh, and sikdragon, people ARE born atheist seeing as they don't have any reason to believe in a God they know nothing about, but that's another story...just wanted to point that out.

Have you seen the mind of a child? A new born lacks the capacity to deny what he/she knows to be there. An all knowing, all caring being that sees to it's every need. Be it the mother or a supernatural God.


I challenge you to prove anything psychologically. You can't because all research is based on the honesty of the subject. Honesty is then subjective to the type of honesty that the test conducter is searching for.

Atheism is not simply denying the existence of God, for there needs to be a known theory to deny. Atheism is the non-belief in a God; therefore, without any knowledge of there being a God, there can be no belief.

but it's makes more sense and is more logical to prove something through research and study than it does through mere belief which is what you're doing.

If you don't have facts to back it up it's simply an assertion and nothing more

the moment i see jesus let a newborn suck his tits is the moment i will believe that a newborn can have faith in god.

oh yea, and holy milk must flow.

No, babies while in the womb have a preference to which hand they will suck. Scientists determined that this preference shows us whether the child will be left handed, right handed, or both.


Anyway, in this discussion I believe people are born gay, just as people are born straight. We don't have to bring religion in here and say "GOD DIDN'T CREATE A GAY CHILD" because that's pointless. We all don't believe in the same creed, so why bother with that debate as well.

Here is a link as to how a gay man's brain works vs a straight man's brain:
http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/ap...pheremones.html

I would think since they think differently then that's just how they were born. My opinion though.

thank you captain obvious, gee no wonder why they teach us this shit in psych like i said earlier.......

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By saying people are born gay, is like saying they are born defective. Gay people are not defective. When defective cells(ones that cannot reproduce due to a number of different faults) are created, they are meant to be destroyed.

The function of a human life is no more complicated than the function of the life of a cell.

if someone had to choose wether to be gay or not, no one would be gay.

really though

it's not a thing of free will, obviously not a fetish......lol

^ i was just sayin, people are born gay.

no i was actually agreeing with you, but now that u just said that it's kinda different now. people aren't born gay nor do they choose to be, it develops like......your personality. it's not there when ur born, but as you age it develops and forms. different things contribute to it, situational and environmental factors, attractiveness, etc.

sure they born gay...do u really think someone will choose how they will b?
if a person is gay is cuz he needed to b...