Young Singers Spread Racist Hate, what is the world coming to? <_< |
Young Singers Spread Racist Hate, what is the world coming to? <_< |
Oct 26 2005, 01:32 AM
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![]() dakishimetainoni... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,322 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 75,318 |
please try to at least skim through this lenghty article.
source=ABC News QUOTE Oct. 20, 2005 — Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.
They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate. Known as "Prussian Blue" — a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes — the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine. "We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race." Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would." April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs — specifically the Nazi swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification. "Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand." Songs like "Sacrifice" — a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer — clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up." "It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund — though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught. On that point, April Gaede and Ted Shaw apparently agree. "Well, all children pretty much espouse their parents' attitudes," she said. "We're white nationalists and of course that's a part of our life and I'm going to share that part of my life with my children." Since they began singing, the girls have become such a force in the white nationalist movement, that David Duke — the former presidential candidate, one-time Ku-Klux-Klan grand wizard and outspoken white supremacist — uses the twins to draw a crowd. Prussian Blue supporter Erich Gliebe, operator of one of the nation's most notorious hate music labels, Resistance Records, hopes younger performers like Lynx and Lamb will help expand the base of the White Nationalist cause. "Eleven and 12 years old," he said, "I think that's the perfect age to start grooming kids and instill in them a strong racial identity." Gliebe, who targets young, mainstream white rockers at music festivals like this past summer's "Ozzfest," says he uses music to get his message out. But with names like Blue-Eyed Devils and Angry Aryans, these tunes are far more extreme than the ones sung by Lamb and Lynx. "We give them a CD, we give them something as simple as a stick, they can go to our Web site and see other music and download some of our music," said Gliebe. "To me, that's the best propaganda tool for our youth." Gliebe says he hopes that as younger racist listeners mature, so will their tastes for harder, angrier music like that of Shawn Sugg of Max Resist. One of Sugg's songs is a fantasy piece about a possible future racial war that goes: "Let the cities burn, let the streets run red, if you ain't white you'll be dead." "I'd like to compare it to gangsta rap," explained Sugg, "where they glorify, you know, shooting n****** and pimping whores." Sugg shrugs off criticism that music like his should not be handed out to schoolyard children, arguing that "it's just music, it's not like you're handing out AK-47s." Perhaps not, but Shaw says it's the ideas in the music that are dangerous. "When you talk about people being dead if they're not white," said Shaw, "I don't think there is much question that that is hateful." Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message. Like many children across the country, Lamb and Lynx decided to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina — the white ones. The girls' donations were handed out by a White Nationalist organization who also left a pamphlet promoting their group and beliefs — some of the intended recipients were more than a little displeased. After a day of trying, the supplies ended up with few takers, dumped at a local shop that sells Confederate memorabilia. Last month, the girls were scheduled to perform at the local county fair in their hometown. But when some people in the community protested, Prussian Blue was removed from the line-up. But even before that, April had decided that Bakersfield was not "white" enough, so she sold her home, and hopes that she and the girls can find an all-white community in the Pacific Northwest. |
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Oct 29 2005, 11:28 PM
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![]() Linda Belle. ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 68 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 279,942 |
There's already a thread about this.
I think we are giving these girls too much attention! http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...96&hl=spreading |
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Oct 29 2005, 11:30 PM
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![]() Word. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,004 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 34,673 |
i heard something about this past week... sounds crazy but what are you gonna do..
we aren't all perfect... we just got to accept them for who they are.. "whites vs everybody else" lol... i live in texas and white's are a minority here now i think... lmao. |
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Oct 29 2005, 11:53 PM
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![]() ladybugs are hot <3 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,169 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,802 |
wtf. im disgusted.
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Oct 30 2005, 01:14 PM
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![]() Oh Goddamnit. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 711 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 46,884 |
I just want to ask any racist, why are other races below yours?
These people give Germans a bad name... |
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Oct 30 2005, 01:48 PM
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![]() insanitys contagious. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 4,210 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 99,707 |
This is the whole 60 min. episode about them
http://mfile.akamai.com/16688/wmv/abcondem...l_hatemusic.wmv |
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Oct 30 2005, 02:22 PM
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![]() Proud to be an Anime Otaku ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 667 Joined: Jul 2005 Member No: 165,004 |
That was........effed up. If there had been like aprotest against like Naiz's I would so toally have been there, no question, and if they think that if there was a fight, hell the blacks hispanics, JEWS (WHy are people always saying Jew like they're a whole new race when it's a religon, you on't go around calling catholics like that!) Chinese, Japanese, we'd win, we'd basically wipe the white population out, no offense to white people there, I'm half my dad's full.
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Oct 30 2005, 03:13 PM
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![]() i've never wanted anything rationale. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,449 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 19,045 |
^It is not a "new" race. Some people just think that a Jewish person can define their race/background as Jewish. If you look at some of the thigns for college information, Judaism is an option along with African and Asian.
Ps, the whole white population isn't Nazis. |
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Oct 30 2005, 03:24 PM
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My US History actually taped it and showed it to us in class. Very Bad.
Also to Note: They CANT SING FOR SHIT |
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Oct 30 2005, 03:26 PM
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apart from anything else, they dont have the best singing voices in the world.
also, ew. |
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Oct 30 2005, 03:31 PM
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topics merged
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Oct 30 2005, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(Rachel is love @ Oct 30 2005, 3:13 PM) ^It is not a "new" race. Some people just think that a Jewish person can define their race/background as Jewish. If you look at some of the thigns for college information, Judaism is an option along with African and Asian. Ps, the whole white population isn't Nazis. i just realized what I said may haveb een cofusing, but I'm saying that the whites basically fear the other races, unlike you I hate hate my white heritage and I can't blame you for the past you had no control in the past, but the hispanics have a right to be against things like this because they tried to kill every hispanic person in the United States when my mother was three. Sad isn't it that the race Hitler tried to create was blonde hair blue eyes and if you ask so many guys they like this type of girls? It's even today molded into our society it's around us even without the girls lik them. Horrid singers. >_< |
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Oct 30 2005, 03:54 PM
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There's another thread about this with the ABC news Clip. I saw it and I was in shock. This is just so crazy! I don't really blame the girls though since it was so obvious they were brainwashed by their family. Extreme shame on their family for teaching them such horrible, backwards thinking! If I ever met them in person, I would give them a piece of my mind!
I just can't believe that there are so many racist people in the world still. I mean, c'mon, we're in the year 2005! If a certain race wasn't meant to be put on this planet, then it wouldn't be here! Everything and everyone is here on this Earth because they are suppose to be! Everyone is equal, and no race is greater than another. What gives a certain race the right to say they're better than all the others? I'm white, but I don't think I'm better than anyone else. My close friends are Asian, Indian and Black. (I love you guys! Janice, Tanzima and Monica!) Seriously though, everyone is equal... This negativity makes me sick... |
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Oct 30 2005, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(ikayto @ Oct 29 2005, 11:21 PM) http://mfile.akamai.com/16688/wmv/abcondem...l_hatemusic.wmv i was watching this and it made me sick hearing some of this stuff coming out from these kids. those whores make me sick quote from one of the girls: QUOTE I hardly believe there were that much many Jews back then *cough cough* more than 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust...*cough* *cough* *edit* I don't think their mom informed them all the violence and death and gore racism caused *edit* they can't even sing well |
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Oct 30 2005, 04:35 PM
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![]() i've never wanted anything rationale. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,449 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 19,045 |
QUOTE(andromeda_90 @ Oct 30 2005, 2:55 PM) More like 6 million. QUOTE(Latina Babii @ Oct 30 2005, 2:45 PM) i just realized what I said may haveb een cofusing, but I'm saying that the whites basically fear the other races, unlike you I hate hate my white heritage and I can't blame you for the past you had no control in the past, but the hispanics have a right to be against things like this because they tried to kill every hispanic person in the United States when my mother was three. Sad isn't it that the race Hitler tried to create was blonde hair blue eyes and if you ask so many guys they like this type of girls? It's even today molded into our society it's around us even without the girls lik them. Horrid singers. >_< You are confusing again. A. I never said I was "proud to be white". B. You're right, I can't control the past, neither can you! C. Who tried to kill every hispanic person in the U.S.? D. Everyone has a right to be pissed when someone tries to wipe out their race. Jews with Hitler, Blacks with slavery, Asains during WW2, hispanics with.... E. Hello random thing with Hitler. I have no idea where you are going with your reply. Son of a biiitch, I forgot to edit my other post...Oh well. merged |
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Oct 30 2005, 04:42 PM
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![]() Don't worry guys, size doesn't matter...to lesbians ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,444 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,066 |
QUOTE(Rachel is love @ Oct 30 2005, 4:35 PM) More like 6 million. You are confusing again. A. I never said I was "proud to be white". B. You're right, I can't control the past, neither can you! C. Who tried to kill every hispanic person in the U.S.? D. Everyone has a right to be pissed when someone tries to wipe out their race. Jews with Hitler, Blacks with slavery, Asains during WW2, hispanics with.... E. Hello random thing with Hitler. I have no idea where you are going with your reply. Son of a biiitch, I forgot to edit my other post...Oh well. merged ohh ooops lol sorry (edits my post) |
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Oct 30 2005, 04:43 PM
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![]() i've never wanted anything rationale. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,449 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 19,045 |
^No problemo =]
and thank you Nickkkkki <3 |
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Oct 30 2005, 07:28 PM
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![]() Residential Crazy Child ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 934 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 116,897 |
It's very upsetting...how they're so young. I blame the parents. There's a difference between sharing your opinions and forcing them on to impressionable children.
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Oct 31 2005, 06:35 AM
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Meh I never said you were proud I was assuming you don't hate your own race.
THe thing with Hitler wasn't random. People always say they hate Hitler but what people consider beautiful is blue eyes and blonde hair. In Hitler's time that would be perfect for the Aryan race. |
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Oct 31 2005, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(EmmalieV @ Oct 30 2005, 1:48 PM) This is the whole 60 min. episode about them http://mfile.akamai.com/16688/wmv/abcondem...l_hatemusic.wmv Thanks for the link. How sad. |
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Oct 31 2005, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(EmmalieV @ Oct 30 2005, 2:48 PM) This is the whole 60 min. episode about them http://mfile.akamai.com/16688/wmv/abcondem...l_hatemusic.wmv Wow......just wow . |
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Oct 31 2005, 04:57 PM
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Oct 31 2005, 08:56 PM
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You can't keep running from what you're trying to find. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 5,030 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 54,096 |
we read an article about that type of music in class. it's crazy... the label earned at least $1 million a year. i cant believe so many ppl would support it.
the label was even handing out cds to kids... |
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Oct 31 2005, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(EmmalieV @ Oct 30 2005, 2:48 PM) This is the whole 60 min. episode about them http://mfile.akamai.com/16688/wmv/abcondem...l_hatemusic.wmv whenever i watch that i wish that the reporter would just own them on every racist thing they believe. for example the "i dont think there was that many jews back then" thing...... dumb ass little whore |
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Oct 31 2005, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Oct 31 2005, 9:20 PM) whenever i watch that i wish that the reporter would just own them on every racist thing they believe. for example the "i dont think there was that many jews back then" thing...... dumb ass little whore I know, and that idiot passing out flyers. I wish someone would just beat the holy shit out of him. |
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Oct 31 2005, 10:01 PM
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People have alotta guts
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