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QUOTE(andromeda_90 @ Oct 23 2005, 5:30 PM) Um, there are a LOT of other holidays that are accepted, for example, Hannukah (sp?), Rosh Hasanah (sp? sorry terrible at spelling for jewish holiday ![]() THE THREAD IS ABOUT THE HOLIDAYS BEING RECOGNIZED. NOT ACCEPTED. HOLY CRAP. recˇogˇnize Audio pronunciation of "recognized" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rkg-nz) tr.v. recˇogˇnized, recˇogˇnizˇing, recˇogˇnizˇes 1. To know to be something that has been perceived before: recognize a face. 2. To know or identify from past experience or knowledge: recognize hostility. 3. To perceive or show acceptance of the validity or reality of: recognizes the concerns of the tenants. 4. To permit to address a meeting: The club's president recognized the new member. 5. To accept officially the national status of as a new government. 6. To show awareness of; approve of or appreciate: recognize services rendered. 7. To admit the acquaintance of, as by salutation: recognize an old friend with a cheerful greeting. 8. Law. To enter into a recognizance. 9. Biology. To exhibit recognition for (an antigen or a substrate, for example). acˇcept Audio pronunciation of "accepted" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-spt) v. acˇceptˇed, acˇceptˇing, acˇcepts v. tr. 1. To receive (something offered), especially with gladness or approval: accepted a glass of water; accepted their contract. 2. To admit to a group, organization, or place: accepted me as a new member of the club. 3. 1. To regard as proper, usual, or right: Such customs are widely accepted. 2. To regard as true; believe in: Scientists have accepted the new theory. 3. To understand as having a specific meaning. 4. To endure resignedly or patiently: accept one's fate. 5. 1. To answer affirmatively: accept an invitation. 2. To agree to take (a duty or responsibility). 6. To be able to hold (something applied or inserted): This wood will not accept oil paints. 7. To receive officially: accept the committee's report. 8. To consent to pay, as by a signed agreement. 9. Medicine. To receive (a transplanted organ or tissue) without immunological rejection. HANNUKAH IS NOT RECOGNIZED. THIS IS A FACT. STOP SAYING IT IS. No Jewish, Muslim, Islam, etc. holiday is recognized besides Christian holidays. You got off for Judaism? Well I didn't. AND I'M JEWISH. And what do you mean no one is complaining? What the crap do you think this thread is about? It's unfair. For something to be noticeably unfair, people have to complain. I, myself, am complaining right now. Only Christmas and Good Friday, eh? Well my friends can get off for Ash Wednesday and not be counted absent. And how about Easter? Any Christian holiday you can go to your school administration and ask to get off and you can without recieving penalty. I, however, cannot. I cannot choose to make a menorah during our 1st grade project while everyone is making Christmas trees, I must make the Christmas tree. I cannot ask "Hey, it's Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year, so do you think I could get off to attend temple?" because I only get nos. I've tried it, trust me, it happens. PLEASE DO NOT POST WITHOUT 1) READING THE THREAD, 2) KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND 3) TRYING TO SEE OUTSIDE YOUR LITTLE BOX. |
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QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Oct 23 2005, 5:43 PM) Only Christmas and Good Friday, eh? Well my friends can get off for Ash Wednesday and not be counted absent. And how about Easter? Any Christian holiday you can go to your school administration and ask to get off and you can without recieving penalty. I, however, cannot. I cannot choose to make a menorah during our 1st grade project while everyone is making Christmas trees, I must make the Christmas tree. I cannot ask "Hey, it's Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year, so do you think I could get off to attend temple?" because I only get nos. I've tried it, trust me, it happens. And in addition, school picture day was on Yom Kippur one year. If no one is going to realize that they put school picture day on a holiday that kids are going to be absent for, it definately isn't recognized. |
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you know what i want to do, to piss off christians?
make good friday into something dirty. like... "hey you want to come over to my house this friday? it's gooood friday" and like... make it so that free porn is given away on good friday and such. and have a tradition of like... massively unchristian activities... with like, contests of committing all the deadly sins... so there'd be eating contests... laziness contests... beauty contests... sex contests... etc. i mean, that's effectively what they did with chirstmas and all... hmmm... ![]() |
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Our picture day was on Yom Kippur this year.
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Okay, I know this is a little off topic from 'holidays' specifically..But I thought it fit in well enough.
Firstly, I 'do' agree that Christian holidays are unfairly..more..noted. Although, I guess it sadly just has something to do with how many more Christians there 'are' in America (including Canada), than the others. At least..in the positions that matter as to what holidays we get ang what not. But you know what I heard about? o.O Get 'this' for unfair. Appearently for the past..Gah..long time, the Catholic church has been trying to get a "Sunday Law" passed. This law is supposed to force people to not have their bussinesses open on Sundays..and force them to attend Catholic church. No matter 'what' religion. And sadly, even though it seems ridiculous..Appearently there's been a lot of progress with certain world leaders to make this "law" truth. Scary, eh? o.o; They're trying to make every 'Sunday" a manditory Catholic/Christian holiday. |
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QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Oct 23 2005, 5:43 PM) THE THREAD IS ABOUT THE HOLIDAYS BEING RECOGNIZED. NOT ACCEPTED. HOLY CRAP. recˇogˇnize Audio pronunciation of "recognized" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rkg-nz) tr.v. recˇogˇnized, recˇogˇnizˇing, recˇogˇnizˇes 1. To know to be something that has been perceived before: recognize a face. 2. To know or identify from past experience or knowledge: recognize hostility. 3. To perceive or show acceptance of the validity or reality of: recognizes the concerns of the tenants. 4. To permit to address a meeting: The club's president recognized the new member. 5. To accept officially the national status of as a new government. 6. To show awareness of; approve of or appreciate: recognize services rendered. 7. To admit the acquaintance of, as by salutation: recognize an old friend with a cheerful greeting. 8. Law. To enter into a recognizance. 9. Biology. To exhibit recognition for (an antigen or a substrate, for example). acˇcept Audio pronunciation of "accepted" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-spt) v. acˇceptˇed, acˇceptˇing, acˇcepts v. tr. 1. To receive (something offered), especially with gladness or approval: accepted a glass of water; accepted their contract. 2. To admit to a group, organization, or place: accepted me as a new member of the club. 3. 1. To regard as proper, usual, or right: Such customs are widely accepted. 2. To regard as true; believe in: Scientists have accepted the new theory. 3. To understand as having a specific meaning. 4. To endure resignedly or patiently: accept one's fate. 5. 1. To answer affirmatively: accept an invitation. 2. To agree to take (a duty or responsibility). 6. To be able to hold (something applied or inserted): This wood will not accept oil paints. 7. To receive officially: accept the committee's report. 8. To consent to pay, as by a signed agreement. 9. Medicine. To receive (a transplanted organ or tissue) without immunological rejection. HANNUKAH IS NOT RECOGNIZED. THIS IS A FACT. STOP SAYING IT IS. No Jewish, Muslim, Islam, etc. holiday is recognized besides Christian holidays. You got off for Judaism? Well I didn't. AND I'M JEWISH. And what do you mean no one is complaining? What the crap do you think this thread is about? It's unfair. For something to be noticeably unfair, people have to complain. I, myself, am complaining right now. Only Christmas and Good Friday, eh? Well my friends can get off for Ash Wednesday and not be counted absent. And how about Easter? Any Christian holiday you can go to your school administration and ask to get off and you can without recieving penalty. I, however, cannot. I cannot choose to make a menorah during our 1st grade project while everyone is making Christmas trees, I must make the Christmas tree. I cannot ask "Hey, it's Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year, so do you think I could get off to attend temple?" because I only get nos. I've tried it, trust me, it happens. PLEASE DO NOT POST WITHOUT 1) READING THE THREAD, 2) KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND 3) TRYING TO SEE OUTSIDE YOUR LITTLE BOX. holy f**king shit...chill alright alright...and yes i did read the whole thread..maybe i misinterpreted? |
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Actually, as unfair as it is to you that Christian holidays are more recognized here..There 'are' many places in the world where people cant even 'participate' in christianity..o.o;..I guess..maybe it..somehow..evens out..
Not that I'm defending it. Just stating. |
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QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Sep 17 2005, 10:50 PM) i really disagree with that. if a cristian preacher says that all christians should vote for ____ (republican or democrat), then you're saying they should vote for that candidate only because a preacher said to. not because they studied the campaigns and knew their stances on the issues. their vote should be influenced by their religion, among other things, but should not take precedence when deciding who to vote for. |
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QUOTE(Crimson_Sky @ Oct 29 2005, 11:16 PM) Actually, as unfair as it is to you that Christian holidays are more recognized here..There 'are' many places in the world where people cant even 'participate' in christianity..o.o;..I guess..maybe it..somehow..evens out.. Not that I'm defending it. Just stating. Well, that is why the topic is rather specific about Christian holidays in America, not elsewhere. Also, there are places in the world where people can't participate in any religion, let alone Christianity, so no, I don't think it evens out. The proof of that is in the Christian population. This post has been edited by Spirited Away: Oct 30 2005, 12:03 AM |
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QUOTE(Crimson_Sky @ Oct 29 2005, 11:16 PM) Actually, as unfair as it is to you that Christian holidays are more recognized here..There 'are' many places in the world where people cant even 'participate' in christianity..o.o;..I guess..maybe it..somehow..evens out.. Not that I'm defending it. Just stating. name one country that specifically bans christiantiy and only chirstianity. |
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QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Oct 30 2005, 12:59 AM) Well, that is why the topic is rather specific about Christian holidays in America, not elsewhere. Also, there are places in the world where people can't participate in any religion, let alone Christianity, so no, I don't think it evens out. The proof of that is in the Christian population. I know that. I guess "evens out" was a bad choice of words. I'm just trying to say that each place has it's own..battles with religions. And each place will have its..hm.."recognized" religion. Not just America. I cant name a "specific" country right now, because I just woke up..and my bf's the big Christian, anyhoo..so he normally knows those little facts..<.<..Cause I just simply cant remember. i know there 'are' countries that dont allow it, though. Heck, there are countries that will 'beat' you if you are caught practising it. o.O Again..It's not that I 'agree' with it all. |
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it depends where you live.
in my school, we don't get off for any jewish holiday. not hanukkah, not passover, not for the high holy days (rosh hashanah and yom kippur). however, at my grandmother's school where she teaches, they at least get off for the high holy days. the difference is that in my school district, there are barely any jews. in her school district, there are tons. i know that if we did get off for those holidays nobody else would care. at my grandmother's school, non-jews will go on vacation. i do sort of wish the holidays would be more recognized. not only for jewish holidays, but for other religious holidays as well. when you go to the mall what do you see? a giant christmas tree or a giant menorah? exactly. they're recognized because the majority of the nation is christian. i'm sure people just don't want to bother with the religions that don't take up a large majority. i mean, then you'd need days for not only judaism, islam, and religions like that, but what about wicca, unitarians, and even atheists? |
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QUOTE and even atheists? are there athiest holidays? i mean, holidays where people get together specifically to celebrate the non-existence of god? im genuinely interested, not trying to nit-pick. although, nit-picking is always good too. and regardless of whether it is possible for you to get an excused absence for the holiday of your choice, as sammi rightly pointed out, doesnt mean it is 'recognized' formally by the school. it just means that they are aware that other religions exist and have a basic knowledge of the bill of rights. oh and sammi, id take the denied excused absence thing up with the school board if i were you. |
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America is a christian-based country with a christian-based society. It's not fair or equal but we can't do anything about it. This is why we need a separation of church and state...
American has grown so much with hundreds of different religions spread all across from the east to the west coast. It seems outdated and immature to still have the same mentality as it did when it first became a country... |
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QUOTE It's not fair or equal but we can't do anything about it. This is why we need a separation of church and state you realize its something of a ontradiction to say that there's nothing we can do, and then suggest a solution, right? |
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QUOTE(racoons > you @ Oct 30 2005, 3:15 PM) are there athiest holidays? i mean, holidays where people get together specifically to celebrate the non-existence of god? im genuinely interested, not trying to nit-pick. although, nit-picking is always good too. and regardless of whether it is possible for you to get an excused absence for the holiday of your choice, as sammi rightly pointed out, doesnt mean it is 'recognized' formally by the school. it just means that they are aware that other religions exist and have a basic knowledge of the bill of rights. oh and sammi, id take the denied excused absence thing up with the school board if i were you. The school board, um, wouldn't care. Trust me. I know who's on my school board. Two of them would be like, "That's not right.." but the other three would be all, "Most of our school is Christian and you already have breaks for that even though you don't need it, so be happy." |
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well take it to the state level
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Haha, James, I don't live in California or New York or something...
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i know... bu tim preparing to challenge the school tommorrow as the y are going to try and force me to cut my hair, and im going to have to argue with the fuhrer
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come on guys, we are getting a little off topic arent we? hmmmm? i mean gosh, you guys are outta control ;)
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DONT chastise and then fail to contribute yourself.
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they dont ban ONLY christianity.
read the question |
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well they ban christianity thats for sure...
but the only reason why christianity is rarely banned is because Christians populated the Earth with their hypocritical teachings back in the early years |
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