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Are blk parents more strict, than white parents or any other race?
jEllyBeaNs
post Oct 23 2005, 11:31 AM
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well lets see, when i do bad things, i get in BIG trouble! i mean big trouble! even if the things i do, aren't that bad. but for my punishment, when i was younger, i wouldn't get grounded. i would get spanked with a belt. i dont kno why, but it seems like blk parents are more strict than white parents. like my friend erin, who's white, tells her mom to 'shutup' and cusses at her. Man, if that was me who knows wut would happen to me mellow.gif like with me and my friends all are moms are the same. they punish us the hard way. but it just seems that when a white kid gets into trouble they get grounded, and thats it. then they get all upset. like "ahh man i cant hang wit my friends". but when a blk kid gets in trouble, like myself, are parents make sure we dont do whatever we did, again! but since im older now, i dont get spanked with a belt, i usually end up gettin hit really hard then grounded. i just think that some white kids get away with a lot of things, that a blk kid would never get away with.
 
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post Oct 23 2005, 09:43 PM
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I am Asian. And I was grounded for infinitely many times already for the littlest mistake ever.
 
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post Oct 23 2005, 09:49 PM
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^Wow, I'm white and I have been grounded too.

Race doesn't factor in now does it.

QUOTE(brownsugar08 @ Oct 23 2005, 8:43 PM)
Cool, I'd like to hear it. _smile.gif mellow.gif
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No need to bitch back at him. It won't help. He already said he knew he crossed the line. mellow.gif
 
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post Oct 23 2005, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Oct 23 2005, 10:38 PM)
yea that was pretty much over the line.

i'll apologize later when i'm not so angry and it won't come out all sarcastic.
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angelica, you know there are white parents (as well as every other race) out there that would practically disown their daughter's for evn getting pregnate at a young age. you know that there are white,asian,hispanic,middle eastern parents that dont even want their kid thinking of having a boyfriend or girlfriend, or even go out with there friends. i can give you tons of examples of middle eastern cultures that prove WAY more strict than your mom. for example i know a girl (that is white) that got kicked out of her house for getting pregnate at 15. she's living with her aunt now. race has nothing to do with strict parents. although i read before it is a statistic that african american parents give more spankings than caucasion parents =/. but that doesnt really mean much, i rather be spanked than get what some other kids of different races get from there parents. but all in all all parents are different. for example, suzzette's parents are way more extreme than yours angelica haha.
 
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post Oct 23 2005, 11:19 PM
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to all you ppl that are freakin out, i never said all blk parents are more stricted on their kids than white parents or any other race. i just said it seemed that way! i kno that all blk parents aren't strict, and i kno that some white parents are strict. you guys are makin it seem like, i said all white parents dont disiplin there kids. ermm.gif trust me i kno, some white kids that get punished pretty badly. to me it just seemed like blk parents are more stricted.

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angelica, you know there are white parents (as well as every other race) out there that would practically disown their daughter's for evn getting pregnate at a young age. you know that there are white,asian,hispanic,middle eastern parents that dont even want their kid thinking of having a boyfriend or girlfriend, or even go out with there friends.


evan, you know i know all of this already! come on, i said it seems that way. omg everybodys' trippin out! ermm.gif
 
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post Oct 23 2005, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(jEllyBeaNs @ Oct 23 2005, 11:19 PM)
to all you ppl that are freakin out, i never said all blk parents are more stricted on their kids than white parents or any other race. i just said it seemed that way! i kno that all blk parents aren't strict, and i kno that some white parents are strict. you guys are makin it seem like, i said all white parents dont disiplin there kids.  ermm.gif trust me i kno, some white kids that get punished pretty badly. to me it just seemed like blk parents are more stricted.
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um, when you say that an action "seems" like so-and-so, you generally believe that there is significant evidence for the action to be seen like so-and-so. In other words, it's apparent to you that black parents are strict. That's why people are "freakin out" at you. It's not as apparent to them as it is to you.
 
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post Oct 23 2005, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Oct 24 2005, 12:28 AM)
um, when you say that an action "seems" like so-and-so, you generally believe that there is significant evidence for the action to be seen like so-and-so. In other words, it's apparent to you that black parents are strict. That's why people are "freakin out" at you. It's not as apparent to them as it is to you.
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ok i get it! _smile.gif
 
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post Oct 24 2005, 05:52 AM
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QUOTE(jEllyBeaNs @ Oct 23 2005, 10:32 PM)
ok i get it!  _smile.gif
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post Oct 24 2005, 12:49 PM
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i don't think this qualifies as a debate.

and personally, if i see one more topic in debate that's just someone whining about race or perceived racism. i'm going to lose it. 

screw it.  i'm not waiting till the next topic. 

do you know why black parents are more strict?

because they're trying to be like white parents.

and you're f**king stupid if you think they're strict because they're black.

oh right you get diciplined and all with a belt.  wonderful.  did you get hit in the head too? because if you didn't notice white people get hit too.

you know, it's not really a race thing.  it's more of an intellegence/class thing. 

generally more educated people are more inclined to not resort to force.  ergo,  less intellegent people are more of the physical punishment kind of people.

and then, less intellegent people tend to be poorer,  and so i guess it's not really a class thing.

oh well.

that's right, i just called black parents stupid poor people. 

go get me warned.  flame me.  whatever.  i don't care.

because white trash, black trash, it's all trash.
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WTF? Thank god i'm eating cookies or i would have been really angry. You better apologise fast. I'm not joking.
 
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post Oct 24 2005, 11:19 PM
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If you would actually read the thread, you would realize he already has apologized AND has been verbally warned.

Stop giving him shit for something he already apologized for. rolleyes.gif
 
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post Oct 25 2005, 10:28 AM
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^ he didn't. He said he'll apologise later...
 
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post Oct 25 2005, 03:47 PM
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Ok well, he more or less apologized, and said he went over the line, didn't he?
 
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post Oct 25 2005, 04:12 PM
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Ok gals cut out the bickering. I'm thinking that is the best apology we going to get from him so lets just drop it.
 
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post Oct 25 2005, 09:41 PM
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well, actually no.

i said i'd apologize later, and so i am.

look, i'm sorry i decided to take out my anger here. althought i did not mean the things i said, i did intend them to sound that way. i was angry.

which is of course no excuse.

but really, that sort of crap is the same crap that everyone gets.

oh, what, you've never seen a kid made fun of in school?

so why is it not good to make fun of a person's race while it's perfectly fine to say degrading comments about them?

this is an interesting value system our society has.

yea, anyways, not trying to justify my blatant attack, that was just something i wanted to say.

as for the apology. hmm... one thing i do enjoy doing in debate is a point by point breakdown of a post. it's a rather harsh assault, which i will try to do here. maybe it will make you feel better, alright? (i will, of course, be refering to myself in second person.)

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i don't think this qualifies as a debate. 


well it doesn't much seem like a debate. that's because it's not. but you decide to go ahead and debate it? quite very intelligent, debating when you say there is no debate. prime example of intelect.

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and personally, if i see one more topic in debate that's just someone whining about race or perceived racism. i'm going to lose it.

screw it.  i'm not waiting till the next topic.


well you sure did lose it alright. but isn't your post just another post about that's someone whining? So do you have to go postal on your on post? hm? hm?

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do you know why black parents are more strict?

because they're trying to be like white parents.


blantant lie, and you know it. Also, sucumbing to two stereotypes at once?
lovely opinion, where's your support? facts? you are trying to debate here, right? show some signs of intelligent life?

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and you're f**king stupid if you think they're strict because they're black.


well, at last! some sign of reason, although the delivery was quite coarse. goodie for you, you've managed to reason something.

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oh right you get diciplined and all with a belt.  wonderful.  did you get hit in the head too? because if you didn't notice white people get hit too.


well that's an ad hominen attack that's really unjustified. (yea, i'm sorry about that. that one was extremely out of line. nothing much else i can say...)

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you know, it's not really a race thing.  it's more of an intellegence/class thing.

generally more educated people are more inclined to not resort to force.  ergo,  less intellegent people are more of the physical punishment kind of people.

and then, less intellegent people tend to be poorer,  and so i guess it's not really a class thing.


use of false reasoning and oversimplifying the facts. It is that stupid people are stupid because they're poor or poor people are poor because they're stupid? or are they even related at all?

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oh well.

that's right, i just called black parents stupid poor people.


idiot doesn't even know what he said. this isn't math. a=b and b=c doesn't mean a=c.
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go get me warned.  flame me.  whatever.  i don't care.

because white trash, black trash, it's all trash.


you don't care, hm? well, that's nice, seeing as how you are going to get warned.

and as far as trash goes- you are right. but that's not really relavent to the topic right now right? unless you're implying that black people are all black trash- in which case your delivery was quite off. with no facts to back it up either. it's sad.

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alright well i hope you've enjoyed that. and yet again, sorry for that. it was over the line, it was uncalled for, it was a blatant attack and it was misdirected anger. and for that, i apologize.
 
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post Oct 25 2005, 10:59 PM
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well i know you apologized before because i accepted it wink.gif that kinda seemed like self abuse abit though lol.

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so why is it not good to make fun of a person's race while it's perfectly fine to say degrading comments about them?


simple, because when you make fun of the person, your just making fun of that individual , but when your talking about a race your insulting a whole race of people.
for if i was to say about an asian kid "he's stupid" it means much less than to say "asians are stupid" you see?
 
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post Oct 25 2005, 11:07 PM
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yea the title caught my eye.
i dont think you can find out who is strict or not. i mean there are alot of strict parents out there.
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Oct 26 2005, 4:41 AM)
and yet again, sorry for that.  it was over the line, it was uncalled for, it was a blatant attack and it was misdirected anger.  and for that, i apologize.
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That's all i care about. Apology accepted.
 
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post Oct 28 2005, 10:43 PM
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I'm Asian, and my parents do that too. However, they've adjusted slightly to how rebellious I am, so sometimes I tell them to shut up and they, well, don't punish me as bad anymore. And my mom stopped hitting me, because whenever she tries to, I grab her hands and restrain her. I'm stronger than her now.

But my dad still spanks me/hits me with yardsticks. And my mom sometimes slaps me across the face when I'm too tired to restrain her.
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Oct 23 2005, 10:00 PM)
i don't think this qualifies as a debate.

and personally, if i see one more topic in debate that's just someone whining about race or perceived racism. i'm going to lose it. 

screw it.  i'm not waiting till the next topic. 

do you know why black parents are more strict?

because they're trying to be like white parents.

and you're f**king stupid if you think they're strict because they're black.

oh right you get diciplined and all with a belt.  wonderful.  did you get hit in the head too? because if you didn't notice white people get hit too.

you know, it's not really a race thing.  it's more of an intellegence/class thing. 

generally more educated people are more inclined to not resort to force.  ergo,  less intellegent people are more of the physical punishment kind of people.

and then, less intellegent people tend to be poorer,  and so i guess it's not really a class thing.

oh well.

that's right, i just called black parents stupid poor people. 

go get me warned.  flame me.  whatever.  i don't care.

because white trash, black trash, it's all trash.
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Sorry, I know this argument is over and you've apologized, but I just wanna make a note--my parents were definitely both well-educated; they started out really poor but now they've become really successful. They both went to really good colleges in China and my dad went to Stanford university for graduate school, which is why they moved to the US.

And they resort to more physical punishment than any other parents I know. So I think that was an unfair assumption up there.

Just thought I'd say that.
 
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post Oct 28 2005, 11:12 PM
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i know, same with my parents, they both went to college. yet they still hit pinch.gif
 
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post Oct 29 2005, 11:46 PM
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it seems as though black parents are more strict but i kno other parents that are of a different race that are even worse. it jus depends on the family i guess
 
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personally i think the topic starter is saying black parents are strict because her parents are black. i think people think that their own race is strict because they grew up with people of that race.
 
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o honestly!

its just the color of your skin! it doesnt effect anything! all it means is that your ancestors were from a place where the sun shined a bit brighter.

all these race related topics make no sense to me.
 
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thats how the world should be, but its not.^
 
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post Oct 31 2005, 10:01 PM
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eh. doesnt it just depend on the person (parent) not their race?
 

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