Debate this in the "God" post.. not here.. I actually intended this to be a general statement, not a debate, so someone please close this

Forgive me EmeraldKnight, I fear I cannot fail my fellow humanists in this debate.



He thinks about me according to you, who's a Christian, but not me. All the times that I've been alone, I get myself through my darnest, toughest times on my own.

If you think that God had something to do with it, then I would consider myself blessed, and perhaps thankful. But because I cannot perceive His presence when I'm so alone, I cannot credit him the will that it took me not to cause myself harm.

I've been self reliant most of my life, and so far, I've done fine. Of course, my relationship with my family now give me all the love that I will ever need. Should I feel the need to find a Higher love, then perhaps I will look for God, but I'm content with what I have.

I have pride in my will. If you think that I'm stubborn, you should question God why I am the way I am. Maybe He will give you the answer as to why non-believers choose to their beliefs the way they do.

I respect God, but I also respect my fellow Man.

Haha that's alright, but that's just the thing.. I never meant this to be a debate.. more of a complaint against the religious debates

Blegh, I think religions are stupid. -_- I mean, religions can clump people together and have this whole big nice community, but it always clashes with other religions one time or another. I mean, wars have been fought because of differences in religion or just hatred against one particular belief.

I'm particularly annoyed by people who are obsessed with their religion. They think every disagreement is some attack on their beliefs. People are writing books against The Da Vinci Code because they think that it's all lies and Dan Brown is trying to force everyone to convert. O_o They also go around trying to convert everyone to their religion. There's this boy in my class who does that. O_O

I personally think the only good religion out there is Buddhism. I mean, there's no God, they're not worshipping anyone/anything, and it's more of a way of life instead of a religion. Plus, it's a peaceful religion. As far as I know, no wars have started because of Buddhism. Yes yes, I know about China forcing out all of Tibetan Buddhist, but at least they're not reacting against this violently.

We're all different enough as it is by race, but adding religion to this just makes it even worse in my opinion. And this whole things with God/gods/goddesses... people are making themselves inferior. C'mon, they're making sacrifices (in the past), they're begging them for forgiveness, they sometimes even go as far as causing themselves personal pain in the act of asking forgiveness, praying for who knows what, and much more crap that isn't really needed. At least in Buddhism there isn't a god or wtvr. Yes yes, there's Buddha, but he's more of a role model and sets an example for what other Buddhists want to achieve; enlightenment.

Every religion thinks that they're right and everyone else is wrong. Then no one's right and everyone's wrong. =|

I agree with some of your ideas about why religion is bad...

<----- ex Buddhist.

But just to clear things up, Buddhism does have dieties and they do have idol worships. The hardcore Buddhists are pretty extreme in their worship and believe in strange things, trust me on this one. As with most religions, Buddhism also have different sects and each sect believes in different things.

religion is based on faith, and when faith is questioned people feel the need to back up their own religion. because without their faith, their religion is nothing.

In other words, when people know of more than one religion, they tend to feel as though the other religions are inferior in which it creates fear. And, Fear leads to hate. And so on and so forth of the Yoda speech.

exactly

Religion is basically who a person is in general. We cannot randomly stop someone's way of life just because we're tired of contreversey

here we go again, it became a why do we argue about religion to lets get right back at it. There are certaintly instigators in these forums who stir up these arguments...they are arguments because not one debate has reached a conclusion on religion..which makes it much more less than a debate to a pointless argument.

You say that Religion causes difference and that causes conflict...so does that mean the next time I see a black kid at my school I should switch schools? Maybe we should elimate all difference...and all become Hitlers? I don't agree with ur idea of life.

Maybe instead of scapegoating problems, work on living together in peace and harmony...with that view, you will never achieve that, and sadly be the one who is beginning the conflict.

Why don't you kindly explain to me why arguments must reach a conclusion to become a debate. Where in the world does "must reach a conclusion" define the word debate? No where. So why are you expecting a conclusion in these debates?

Your supposed analogy makes no sense and is completely irrelevant. Why do you think debates are conflicts and that people who start these threads are creating conflicts? Such things could be as simple as a sharing of minds.

This is where the pious Christian and the antiChrist atheist prove that both sides are full of themselves...

To Christians and other devout followers of a given religion:
Believe what you believe, stop trying to convert the world and stop claiming that Christianity, or any other religion holds a given power over another.

To atheists:
Just shut up. Ok, you deny the existence of Gods, but this vendetta against Christians is like throwing shit at a horse's ass. It's pointless. Let it go. At the end of the day, Christians are agitated and you look like jackasses so the cycle of lunacy just continues.

Live your own life and don't try to hinder the lifestyle of another.

If only life is that simple. *sigh*.

Personally, I couldn't give two shits about what religion a person practices as long as they aren't off the deep end (i.e. refusing to marry outside of the race). As long as you're a good person, you're ok in my eyes.

I think our society has lost focus and all anyone cares about is your image and title.

though your solution is very ideal, here lies the problem:

christians must make effort to evangelize, as it is a duty to those who follow the faith.

doesn't this mean atheists have the right to respond in kind?


i'm curious to know if you don't attribute this lost of focus to religion. just a question. actually, what is this image and title you're speaking of?

Religion holds no real importance in my life even though I was brought up a southern baptist. What good is religion if someone continues to lie, decieve, cheat and steal?

Regarding my last statement, I had mainly Christians and Atheists in mind. When it comes to this head on rivalry amongst the youth, primarily college students at predominantly white schools, the big deal is how big of a Christian you are or how big of an Atheist you are. The image.

need I say anything?

^ Need you spam? That was a needless post and didn't contribute anything at all to the topic.

actually disco...i was asked a question that BrandonSaunders pretty much answered..but not to flake out, i thought id mention my thought on that matter...i'd suggest to you the same, and not spam..because ur comment was equally pointless.

Indeed, what good is religion if it's used for deception or political gains.

As for the image, on one side, you have evangelists—who threatens with the promise of Hell, and on the other you have those who are content with knowing and/or not knowing—who threatens with... disbelief? The one who is at fault is the one who insisted in the first place, in this case. That's the image I have, but it is not in regard to hardcore Atheists I guess.


To be relevant to the topic, may I ask what question did the Don answered for you?

its more interesting and controversal , and we never have a debate on how a religion is wrong

AHAHA a topic about religion to complain about other topics on religion... how very original...

To tell the truth, people can actually believe in TONS of religions. The problem is that one of them got too arrogant.

well, to be fair, one of the notions of christianity is that they help to "enlighten" us heathens.