PEOPLE ARE NOT, BORN GAY!!! thats what i am saying. i dont know why they need an excuse. i just think that they just say they are born gay, because they really dont kno why they like the same sex. i have a couple of gay friends and when myself and other people ask them why, they just say "becuase",or somethin stupid like" its none of your business". i have never heard any gay person say exactly why they are gay? i mean, to me i think it is just there choice.
and wut are u talking about "HOW DO U CHOOSE TO BE GAY"? ITS NOT THAT HARD! how are people bisexual? did they just come out liking both sexes?!?!

How are you straight? Is it just your choice? So technically we are all bisexual and if you're straight you just choose to overshadow the homosexual part?

huh? srry im not tryin to be mean or anything, but u lost me. yea, i chose to be straight. i dont see wut your point is. but u lost me on, how technically we are all bisexual.

How do you know they're not saying that because they really believe they're born gay?


Umm... yes? Maybe? That's what we're trying to figure out.

I don't choose to like cheesecake. I just do.

I'm bisexual...

You bisexuals.... Just make up your minds already....

......


I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding!

*shrug* well right now I prefer girls more... but some days it changes

Boys are trouble, anyway

Boys indeed are stupid, confusing creatures.

Anywho. I don't believe gay people are born gay. You aren't born straight, are you? Did you have the desire to kiss someone of the opposite sex when you were five? Or did you think they had cooties and you couldn't touch them? I'm a girl and I didn't really like boys. They were icky. I had no attraction until I went through puberty. Isn't that when people grow up and develop their pituitary (sp?) gland? The pituitary gland causes sexual attraction. You don't become attracted to people before you go through puberty.

Think, people.
And read my other theory. No one agrees with it? I mean, really, it seems most logical. That's how they explain depression, too. Imbalance of hormones.

i think it can be a whole host of problems. i mostly believe in hormonal imbalance but i've met someone who originally liked girls but she was such a fcuking bitch to him and after that he just kept on going out with horrible girls. so slowly, he got to thinking that guys would be a better match.

btw, i've seen six year old kissing and growing out. >< and then there were little kids doing sexual activities.

Yea, but that's due to influence from media and their parents and whatnot. When you were six, did you ever really think "Hey that guy's pretty attractive "? No.

I don't think anyone could have said it better. I was attracted to Barney and crayons when I was six.

Its impossible to be 100% either one...Thats why we have parents that both have brown hair and they give birth to a kid with blonde hair, which would be nature. That doesnt have anything to do with WHO they are as a person. That's due to what is called "life changing experiences" or "epiphanies", the nurture. Nobody is BORN a mass murderer, they get that way becuse of how they are treated in life. Do you think the Columbine kids planned that shooting? No, they were abused, rejected, mistreated, and scorned throughout life and thats what warped their minds...Nurture...Being 6'8" or having abnormally slow metabolism, having blonde hair and green eyes is nature, you cant help that, but each person can help how they react to situations.

This should be merged with the "are you born gay?" topic.

OmG i love you! ppl choose to be gay. like u said ppl aren't born mass murders, ppl aren't born to kill other ppl. so how are ppl just born gay, and others not?

^ uh... he's not saying that at all. he's saying that people aren't born gay but turn gay because of trauma or other life-changing situations. he's saying that people aren't born gay but because of special circumstances, they become gay.

that's the reason some people are gay and some aren't. because some people grew up in different situations.

there's some flaws in that theory. a majority of homosexuals were raised by heterosexuals and a lot were even raised in strong religious families. how does a heterosexual couple nuture a child to become homosexual?

Why the hell are you comparing mass murders to gay people, I find that very offensive! I don't think that was the right way to say what you were trying to express.

^Some people are just cruel like that. (although he isn;t comparing mass murderers to gay people, he was using the example of HOW someone becomes someone. Even though it sounded harsh, it is kinda true how someone becomes who they are)

If it just me but do I feel like I am using gay people as a "lab rat" for an experiment? I don't like the idea of doubting homosexuality

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you know, I agree with the people who said you're not born gay or straight. When I was young I hated boys for being stupid and i liked anime a lot now i am all throwing myself for boys. I think it's more of influence that makes someone gay but really, I don't want to judge someone how they become who they are. Maybe it;s better to ask someone who IS gay but then again they might not know it themselves. It just happens. If you're born gay, then you must have gay DNA in you. But there is no such thing as gay DNA. It's just like that.

ok. thx for restating it for me

people are born predisposed to be gay or straight.

it's in the genes.

and as strange as it may sound, gayness is a pretty good trait for ensuring the survival of a species.

straight males often assert thier dominance. Male lions will kill or kick out thier male young. They will kill all male young when they take over a pride.

however, if the dominant male fails to produce male offspring, and with no other males, the group will die out.

gay males, therefore, are a saftey net. they are not killed as competition by straight males, because they are not. however, when they are the last ones left, with encouragement from the females they can ensure the species continues.


it's like with wasps, unfertilized wasp eggs develop into males. the female wasp then mates with her male offspring to propogate the species.

almost all species has some sort of safety net. gay males may just be humanity's safety net.

which would mean, it's genetic.

Justin, did you consider my little theory?

Were you born straight? Attracted to females from day one, without influences from media and your parents? When you went through puberty, you felt no change in that?

i'm saying predisposed...

like, when you're born, it's already written in your genes that when you hit puberty you'll be gay or straight...

But how could that be if you're not either as a child? Your genes are always there. They don't just appear during puberty. Besides, puberty is alllll about hormones and how they are balanced, where they go. Why wouldn't sexual determination have to deal with that too, seeing as that's when attraction starts?

your hormones are set by your genes tho.

No they're not. O_o You meet a person and are/are not attracted to them based on the balance of your hormones. You think it's set when you're concieved who you're going to be attracted to?