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illyria
post Sep 22 2005, 01:52 PM
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yeah, i'm just wondering when createblog.com became stuck-up. or rather, controlled and administrated by such stuck-up people.

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Hi,
I'm sorry, but your skin submission has been rejected. By all means, this does not mean we hate you, or you're not welcome here, we just feel that the skin doesn't meet our minimum quality standards at this time. Don't be discouraged by this - everyone has to start somewhere. Keep on creating and submitting new skins - all the while refining your skills - and one day, with perseverance, I'm sure we'll see your skins in the database soon enough! 


excuse me but i've been a member since april 2004. and, i don't need to be treated like a child being given "advice" about "one day, with perserverance... [my] skins [will be] in the database." i already have 5 skins in the database. and, the two i submitted were damn good. what? is createblog.com simply an anime skin site now?? you know, some people don't like anime. you would think since the forums are now overflowing with anime layouts, you'd mix it up a bit so other people would have different choices.



okay, granted, this one is a bit plain but, some people like that!! instead of all the cluttered things on some skins, some people just like it simple. you would think that createblog.com would be trying to appeal to EVERYONE not just anime fans.



and this one, maybe it wasn't accepted because it is about gay people and maybe you're a little prejudice towards gay people but, straight, gay, lesbian and bisexual people like queer as folk. it's not necessarily geared towards gay people. it's a really good show with a very big fanbase and again, it should've been approved to try and appeal to everyone's interests.

and that last one is anything but plain. so please do not insult my skins. and do not treat people like children. i used to love this site because everyone was welcome and accepted but, now it's changed. everyone used to be able to submit a skin. if ppl didn't like it... then they didn't have to use it. it's not that difficult of a complex to understand. i strongly suggest that you broaden the horizon of the types of skins you accept. because a skin that you might hate, someone else might absolutely love.
 
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Spirited Away
post Sep 22 2005, 05:02 PM
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don't ruin my fun james.. i haven't been here all that much. stubborn.gif


eek. never mind. _smile.gif

edited> WHERE'S ISSUE 4 huh?!?!? huh!??! cry.gif

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post Sep 22 2005, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(illyria @ Sep 22 2005, 4:19 PM)
honestly, i'm sure that it had nothing to do with that
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i've already stated it probably had nothing to do with the gay thing.
enough with this accusation b.s. opinions on that will vary. so just leave it alone. i know what you believe is an accusation so that's great. thanks for telling me you're opinion. continuing to argue about it is not going to make either one of us right or change each other's opinion. thanks for sharing yours.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:07 PM
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i just don't understand. if you think it had NOTHING to do with the rejection.. WHY ON EARTH BRING IT UP in the first place? it seems you're changing your mind now and if you are, never mind about my opinions. _smile.gif
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(racoons > you @ Sep 22 2005, 5:01 PM)
can i just observe that this thread really isnt worth the argument it's causing?

unless you intend to leave this open as an example of sorts, then it really does fall under the 'no threads bitching about skin rejection' rule... and as such should be closed...

also, i woul dalso point out that one of those skins took FOREVER to load... it was insanely irksome
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that wasn't necessarily the point of the post. if it was i would have titled it different. i really was talking about how createblog has changed, in my opinion, and how i think it has changed. my skins rejection was just an example of why i think that. if you want to close the post that's fine. do what you have to.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Sep 22 2005, 5:07 PM)
i just don't understand. if you think it had NOTHING to do with the rejection.. WHY ON EARTH BRING IT UP in the first place? it seems you're changing your mind now and if you are, never mind about my opinions.  _smile.gif
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you're right. maybe i shouldn't have brought it up at all. i wanted to say all of that stuff about the gay thing, in case that was the reason. but, now it's being interpreted that i'm accusing that i was discriminated against when really that's not what i meant at all... but whatever... _dry.gif
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:17 PM
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that wasn't necessarily the point of the post. if it was i would have titled it different. i really was talking about how createblog has changed, in my opinion, and how i think it has changed. my skins rejection was just an example of why i think that. if you want to close the post that's fine. do what you have to.



Ditto, illyria... I think the thread is here to point out that perhaps createblog.com needs to offer a little constructive criticism on the subject of rejected skins when asked, like... error in code, innappropriateness in the design, wrong information submitted, plain... etc. Not detailed criticism, but I think we would all like a reason for why our skins were rejected..
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:21 PM
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oh. this is an ACTIVE argument. how exciting

fae, i have no ide awhere issue 4 is, as i stepped down. i dont think anyone noticed me going.

meh.

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that wasn't necessarily the point of the post. if it was i would have titled it different. i really was talking about how createblog has changed, in my opinion, and how i think it has changed. my skins rejection was just an example of why i think that. if you want to close the post that's fine. do what you have to.


you didnt do it well.
i just sounded like whining to me.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(racoons > you @ Sep 22 2005, 5:21 PM)
you didnt do it well.
i just sounded like whining to me.
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actually i happen to think i constructed my opinion very maturely. but thanks for sharing your opinion. but that's just what it is, your opinion. frankly, i do not care.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:27 PM
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if my dear, you truly didnt care, you wouldnt have found it necessary to inform us
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(racoons > you @ Sep 22 2005, 5:27 PM)
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if my dear, you truly didnt care, you wouldnt have found it necessary to inform us
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i meant, i don't care about your opinion in particular. guess i should've explained it better for you to understand.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:30 PM
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First of all, personalized rejection pms would be insane. So many skins are submitted (30 something is usually a lower number) and it would take way to much time to personalize rejection pms.

Honestly you first skin isn't very good, as someone stated earlier it's plain. However just because you think your skin is good enough and it was rejected is no reason to suggest it was because it involved gay people. Maybe it just wasn't that good.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:31 PM
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Okay.... there is too much "bashing" members in here... Let's just state the problem, and discuss our opinions on it.
I think this is beyond just one person's skins being rejected. Maybe it's asking too much for constructive criticism on skins being rejected, but it would be so nice.
For example, I put almost 20 hours into one of mine, to get it rejected with nothing to explain why except for that generic message. I am in no way complaining over my skins being rejected, but I am complaining over the lack of infromation or civility. Does this make sense?
 
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From both sides of the argument, your points have been taken so just drop already.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:34 PM
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that does make sense. if it meant to much you should have pmed a moderator to get a reason. It's happened before, then you could just change what was wrong with it and resubmit
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(illyria @ Sep 22 2005, 10:29 PM)
i meant, i don't care about your opinion in particular. guess i should've explained it better for you to understand.
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i know what you meant.

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I think this is beyond just one person's skins being rejected. Maybe it's asking too much for constructive criticism on skins being rejected, but it would be so nice.


child, please. you arent xanga staff. you have NO IDEA the number of skins which get submitted daly, and which have to be rejected. it simply IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GIVE INDIVIDUAL FEEDBACK
 
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QUOTE(racoons > you @ Sep 22 2005, 6:34 PM)
child, please.
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ahahaha laugh.gif You reminded me of my mom just there.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:40 PM
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child, please. you arent xanga staff. you have NO IDEA the number of skins which get submitted daly, and which have to be rejected. it simply IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GIVE INDIVIDUAL FEEDBACK


I realize that it would be hard... I'm not asking for EXTENSIVE criticism. earlier in this topic, I stated that I replied to the rejection PM asking for feedback and didn't even get my question anwsered. I got "Resubmitting is against the rules. period." ...not exactly nice. At least, if criticism isn't possible on the rejection PM, I think that at least if you replied to the person and saked for criticism, you could get a little something.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 05:51 PM
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It's different if we accept it and you find something wrong. and ask us to fix it. Then, if the admins can't do anything we ask you to resubmit and then we delete the other skin.
But if you submit it, we reject it, and you resubmit it than that's against the rules - no matter the circumstances. Which mod was it, in any case?
[ http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=77054 ]

edit// &your sig is too tall.
 
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QUOTE(fishcake-y @ Sep 22 2005, 5:51 PM)
It's different if we accept it and you find something wrong. and ask us to fix it. Then, if the admins can't do anything we ask you to resubmit and then we delete the other skin.
But if you submit it, we reject it, and you resubmit it than that's against the rules - no matter the circumstances. Which mod was it, in any case?
[ http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=77054 ]

edit// &your sig is too tall.

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I understand the resubmitting thing, and okay, I'll edit my sig. I"ll PM you the name of the mod because I don't want to offend anybody.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(racoons > you @ Sep 22 2005, 5:34 PM)
i know what you meant.
child, please. you arent xanga staff. you have NO IDEA the number of skins which get submitted daly, and which have to be rejected. it simply IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GIVE INDIVIDUAL FEEDBACK
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maybe this is completely impossible and not a good idea but maybe, when submitting a skin, there can be something saying "if your skin is rejected would you like feedback" and then they're can be a yes or no box (default on no) so then if it matters to the person to have a reason they can say so. simply an idea.

oh, and given the fact that you and digital.fragrance are the same age i find it very amusing that you call her a "child" and talk to her like an idiot.

and in response to gypsyeyes, frankly i'm surprised that the minimum is 30. i thought it'd be way more that. and yes, a personal pm to EVERY rejection is indeed insane. but i think the idea i suggested wouldn't be as time-consuming as you think. plus, i would think the createblog staff would want to please the users and offer feedback if that's what they wanted. but, i don't know. maybe not.
 
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maybe this is completely impossible and not a good idea but maybe, when submitting a skin, there can be something saying "if your skin is rejected would you like feedback" and then they're can be a yes or no box (default on no) so then if it matters to the person to have a reason they can say so. simply an idea.

Xanga staff simply has no time to do that. They have a lot of skins coming in, and don't really have the time to provide feedback to every person who wants it.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 06:28 PM
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This thread is one of the reasons why the feedback forum shouldn't have been created. ;O I'm just so sorry to everyone that I made it happen. Rawr!

Did stanleythepanda's name change?
I hate name changes! <-- hypocrite statement.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 06:31 PM
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here's a solution: mods can just not tell you if your skin's rejected.

really. it a one-size-fits-all message offends you, i don't see how you can get through life.
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 22 2005, 4:31 PM)
here's a solution:  mods can just not tell you if your skin's rejected.

really.  it a one-size-fits-all  message offends you, i don't see how you can get through life.
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that was thy early system! the staff continued to receive dozens of PMs about if their skin was rejected or not.

I do believe it was irking the staff, esp if the submitter began PMing 1 hour after they submit the layout! Or worse, right after they submit it! Aiya!
 
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post Sep 22 2005, 06:44 PM
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or, how about a 'rejected skins' catagory, so people can go and say how much they suck or what they need to improve with.
 

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