yeah, i'm just wondering when createblog.com became stuck-up. or rather, controlled and administrated by such stuck-up people.



excuse me but i've been a member since april 2004. and, i don't need to be treated like a child being given "advice" about "one day, with perserverance... [my] skins [will be] in the database." i already have 5 skins in the database. and, the two i submitted were damn good. what? is createblog.com simply an anime skin site now?? you know, some people don't like anime. you would think since the forums are now overflowing with anime layouts, you'd mix it up a bit so other people would have different choices.



okay, granted, this one is a bit plain but, some people like that!! instead of all the cluttered things on some skins, some people just like it simple. you would think that createblog.com would be trying to appeal to EVERYONE not just anime fans.



and this one, maybe it wasn't accepted because it is about gay people and maybe you're a little prejudice towards gay people but, straight, gay, lesbian and bisexual people like queer as folk. it's not necessarily geared towards gay people. it's a really good show with a very big fanbase and again, it should've been approved to try and appeal to everyone's interests.

and that last one is anything but plain. so please do not insult my skins. and do not treat people like children. i used to love this site because everyone was welcome and accepted but, now it's changed. everyone used to be able to submit a skin. if ppl didn't like it... then they didn't have to use it. it's not that difficult of a complex to understand. i strongly suggest that you broaden the horizon of the types of skins you accept. because a skin that you might hate, someone else might absolutely love.

Don't take it so personally--each mod likely give a fairly standard notice when the skin is rejected.

how are you not supposed to take it personally when someone (maybe not directly but indirectly) suggests that they are better than you. or rather their skins. that's definitely personal. thanks for the reply though.

Ok, well,
1. They didn't personally write that letter for you. They probably just copy and paste it.
2. They're not all Anime. Seriously. Go look.
3. Just because you've been a member since last April doesn't mean you get special treatment.

I don't think the moderator suggested his were better necessarily--he just rejected your skin. Keep in mind that there's always room for improvement; even if you have been around a long time and have been designed a long time does not mean that your skins are always going to get accepted without question. To me, I feel that the email was polite. It's clearly targeted to new designers, yes, but I'm assuming that the mod probably just sends out the same note to each rejected submitter.

to b0st0ngrl, i wasn't suggesting that since i've been here since last april that i get special treatment. i think mipadi interpreted that right: i was saying that because that's how long i've been making skins. and i'm not saying they're all anime. but a majority of all the skins sumbitted "lately" are anime. it gets boring after a while. but, that's my "personal" opinion. and i think i'd rather have a personal email or rejection rather than the one i got because he made it sound like i'm a new designer and i'm not. and, it also suggested that i've never had a skin submitted and i have. so, it probably bothered me more that it wasn't personal. and for the fact that everyone keeps talking of improvement but how are you supposed to improve if you're not told what needs improvement?? and yes mipadi, you are probably right. that's probably the same rejection letter that they send to everybody. i'm aware of that. i just think it's stupid to sit there and insult the "quality" of your skins but then not tell you why...








thanks for the replies. even if they are to insult me. feedback is feedback.

I like them. And I agree, there are soem skins in the cB database that are not even that good. I don't see why now yours arent getting accepted, when there are some that are the same thing over and over again, and really arent even original. I'd use yours if I used xanga skins :)

thanks for your comment.

i agree with danelle...i don't see what's wrong with your skins.

it seems to me that they rejected your skin based soley(sp?) on the fact that you don't have many posts. eh..maybe i'm wrong, but i'm trying to figure out a reason why they were deleted. maybe you should PM the person who rejected your skins so that you can get a legitimate(sp?) reason as to why they weren't accepted.

i already PMed them but i've yet to receive a reply yet.
thanx for the comment.

Maybe you should have waited to recieve a reply before posting this.

I didn't mean to insult you, but that's how I interperated what I read. I can't hear the tone of your voice, but when I read it, it sounded different to me than what you were proabably trying to say.

lol. that's okay. i know sometimes it comes across differently when you read it then how it was intended. i was just clearing it up on what i really meant.


i also wanted to get other people's feedback. not just the feedback of the person who rejected the skin. thanks for the suggestion though.

that is the standardized reply for all rejected skins. it's as polite, without sugar coating, as it gets, in my opinion.

i also don't think that it's fair for you to accuse the moderator of not accepting your second skin because it's about gay people. though you said you wanted the opinions of other members, you accused a moderator of discrimination without evidence. no, rejecting your skin alone isn't evidence, not credible evidence.

i like your the image title of your first skin and if you blended the "queer as folk" skin—good job, but the overall look of the layouts are lacking in that they're too plain. I understand that there are people who'd prefer plain, but moderators have the right to be choosy when it comes to accepting skins. after all, it's their job to accept quality skins for the cB public. what "quality" is varies from person to person, moderator to moderator. some mods just don't think "plain" is "quality".

about personalized rejection PMs. that's not a bad idea and if i were submitting a skin—which i've done before—i'd appreciate one, too. But though you may appreciate it, others may not. a lot of people just can't take constructive criticism and will be offended as you are now or even more so. feelings may be hurt. i think all that needs to be done is if someone wants to request a constructive or personalize answer as to why his/her skin was rejected, he/she should pm the moderator who rejected it and wait for an answer.

you just gave me constructive criticism and i appreciate it. thanks. and i don't think both of my skins are plain but i respect that you think they are. and, even if they were, they're are plently of plain skins that have been accepted and will continue to be accepted. furthermore, about the accusation that my skin wasn't excepted because it's about a gay show, i put "maybe". i didn't say that was the reason. i said that might've been the reason and then gave my reply if that was indeed why it was rejected.

thanx for the feedback

When I submitted my skins today, I got them rejected.... and I"m not complaing about them being rejected, but the manner in which they were. Here they are: (click on the image to visit the sites if you want)




No offense, but I think these are pretty good.... I spent a lot of time... A LOT. I'm not new to submitting, and I'm not asking for special treatment -- I do have a few layouts in the xanga layout section.

When it was rejected, I realized that I hadn't submitted the required 500 x500 screenshots, so I PMed the person and told him that. I explained I had resubmitted it with the required information and more detailed instructions, and that I knew that resubmission was against the rules. I just thought that if I supplied the correct information it could get accepted. I also asked what else could have been wrong so as to do better in the future on other layouts I might submit.

I got this reply: Resubmission is against the rules. period.

Geez.... I didn't mean anything bad. I wish moderators would give a litle more feedback in their PM's, even if it is harsh. I'd learn from that.

to address the problem of plain skins. if you'll notice, a lot of the more plain skins that were accepted in our database are old ones. they probably date all the way to when you're first joined. i think cB's tastes have become somewhat more refined.

by the way, saying "maybe" doesn't mean the accusation wasn't laid out loud and clear. it was, and that's why i called it an "accusation".

digital.fragrance, i like the first layout a lot though it did take a while to load even with my dsl pro (supposedly same speed as cable). hmm, i wonder why that one's rejected.

1. I highly doubt Kara would have rejected your skin because it was about gay people.
2. Most of the moderators have been designing just as long (if not longer) than you, so I wouldn't be so stuck up about your own skins either.
3. Yes, standards have gotten much tighter since more and more people design and each person keeps getting better. Why not let only those skins we think are exceptional in?
4. Just because our skins aren't of the greatest standard doesn't mean we can't reject skins that also aren't. It's our job to reject skins we don't think are good enough for the current standards, not to judge skins based off of our own ability.
5. We can't personalize the PM. We reject a skin, and it sends it automatically. Sorry. Oh well. We can't do anything about it.

Personally, I would have rejected the first because it looks like a default-layed-out Xanga with altered colors and a banner, pretty much. That's not quite up to par with the many div layouts submitted nowadays, imo.

I can't see the rest of the second so I wouldn't know, but from the looks of it, I would have accepted it.

You can't always expect your skins to get accepted just because you think they're good enough. It's the moderator's choice. If they reject it, then that's too bad. Try to improve it and resubmit it.

I'm sorry for being so blunt, but after modding for over a year, I'm sick of people complaining about their skins being rejected. All of us went through the same thing.

i think those are really good.

Thanks, though I guess it really deosn't matter now...

The first doesn't work for me. That may have something to do with it.

It works for me.... but here, this will work. Copy and paste into address bar.
http://xanga.com/dfrikku
http://xanga.com/ysmustang05

please don't apologize. i like constructive criticism. and honestly, i know the first one is plain and i didn't really expect it to get accepted. but, i didn't really understand why the second one was rejected. but, like you said, it's all up to the moderator so there's nothing i can do about it now. i do feel like creatblog.com used to be nice and cared and now, since there's so many people, everyone's kind of blunt and uncaring. when really, if it wasn't for the users, this site wouldn't be so popular. and i'm not saying accept everyone's skin because that's unrealistic, and i'm sure there can't be a pm sent to everyone who's rejected. it'd just be nice to actually feel like the moderators care. but, maybe they're not supposed to. maybe they're just here to do what their name suggests, moderate. it doesn't mean moderate nicely or moderate like you care about the people so that's fine. i just miss the way it used to be.

and to Spirited Away. an accusation is ACTUALLY ACCUSING SOMEONE OF SOMETHING. i "suggested" that the reason might've been because it was about gay people. having "maybe" in that sentence does not make it an accusation.

to put it in a pretty basic, yet disturbing, example: "when you accuse someone of rape you have to say 'you raped me' for it to be an accusation and for it to be tried in court. you can't say 'maybe you raped me' and have it considered an accusation."

we're bickering over small technicalities here. you think it's an accusation. i don't. i think it was a possible reason of why my skin was rejected. i NEVER ACTUALLY SAID THAT WAS WHY. honestly, i'm sure that it had nothing to do with that, but you never know now-a-days and incase it was, i've already stated my reply. and, i also wanted to let people know that queer as folk is not just a gay/lesbian show. its fanbase includes all kinds of people with different sexual preferences. i wanted to state that as well incase it wasn't approved because someone might've thought it was just directed at gay/lesbian/bi people.

for example, lets say i got a D on a test. and you saying something like "maybe you should have studied for it" is an accusation that i didn't prepare for it. the "maybe" is trivial and the intent of the response is clear. you may think you're suggesting that I didn't study, but obviously that's the same as accusing me of not studying. i'm sorry if that's not how you meant others to understand it, but that's how i understood it and that's my opinion alone.

using the same example as you:

You: maybe the moderator raped me
Me: are you accusing the moderator of raping you?
You: no I'm just suggesting that he/she may or may not have raped me
Me: if you're not accusing him/her of rape, then why bring it up? Just for fun?
You: no, just for the sake of suggesting
Me: suggesting what? that the moderator raped you? isn't that the same as accusing him/her of raping?

what would be your answer?

and "tried in court" isn't the kind of accusation being discussed. obviously.

seriously though, i wouldn't know if the moderator was actually discriminating your work. i just have faith that he/she wasn't. our mods aren't that immature.

can i just observe that this thread really isnt worth the argument it's causing?

unless you intend to leave this open as an example of sorts, then it really does fall under the 'no threads bitching about skin rejection' rule... and as such should be closed...

also, i woul dalso point out that one of those skins took FOREVER to load... it was insanely irksome