Damn, I wrote a huge post 2 days ago in response to something. I think I forgot to hit send. I'll go write another one and edit this in a moment. That's very aggrivating. I was on a roll that day


Oh come on.

You, my friend, are an idiot. Congradulations.

Hey now Ariel, be nice. You may not think some people are the smartest, but name calling isn't the way to go about it. :]

Heh, sorry. I couldn't help it.

exactly.

there is so much racism directed against white people. I sit down at a lunch table with a bunch of blacks/hispanics and they call me "white girl" a few of them (not my friends, but other people) don't even bother to learn my name 'cause all I am to them is "white girl" now if I were to address one of them as "black girl" I would get beaten up. It would be considered a horrible racist comment...
but when they call me "white girl" of course that's not racist. [/sarcasm]

I know that there is stereotyping and the like that blacks have to deal with. I know that no race is treated perfectly but blacks need to stop acting victimized. so what if your great great great great great great grandmother was enslaved by some rich white guy? that was a long time ago. get over it.

I don't see why anyone should be treated differently for their race. Whether it is in a positive way or a negative way, it shouldn't matter. So black history month shouldn't exist, white history month shouldn't exist, none of these things should matter. every race should be recognised all year long

okay, lets say there was a white history month. what the hell would we learn about?
everything we would learn about would be something we already learned many many times. at least with history months for hipanics and african americans, you actually learn stuff u you never knew before. i mean, come on . we all know that america is mostly comprised of caucasions right? therefore when we learn about something in history, it is most likely going to be a caucasion person(s) . so really, what need is there to be a white history month? the purpose of black history month is to learn more about another culture and for blacks to even learn about their own, its not a pride thing. caucasions dont have a "month" yet we know more about their culture and history than any other. so again, what need is there of a white history month? i can probably get more answers correct in a contest about white history than i can black. serious, and i know im not the only one. so, now, lets say we didnt have a black history month. it is fair to say we would know much much less.There is no need of a white history month, and we all know it. this has just turned into a pride thing."we want a month too." just to have a month. its not like they go in black history month "oh yeah we're black, black's the way to be! oh ya" no, all they do is just throw some history facts at you. about the civil rights. and alittle slavery stuff. some of the arguments ive seen in here were just plain silly. if there really was even a real question of there having to be a white history month, people would actually be talking about it, besides some kids on cb.
so one more time,close your eyes and think about it, what if there was suddenly a white history month tommorow? what would we learn? hmm george washington? no we know about that, chris columbus? nah we heard about him hundreds of times. all of our presidents? nope we know about that too. astronauts?authors?painters? inventors?Stars?war veterans? etc. eh all the major ones i can think of are.... wow, white.
im done

this isnt my opinion, but i once remember from a magezine or a movie, something of the sort but someone had the exact same idea as you.

this kid wanted to have a white history club in his highschool, and everyone was opposed to it. when he asked why, the answer was because if you look around, the whole world is a white club. [ again: these are NOT my words ] the way they explained made it seem true, about how the white run everything.

IMO, i would have no problem with white history month.
but i also think if we were to have a white history, i want an asian history month, latin history, [ & any other race/culture history month ]


EDIT--
my cousin & brother both said
the whole year is a white history month.
while it contradicts itself w/ the month & year i agree with the term. throughout the whole year we learn about white history.

1. Your points have been brought up SO MANY TIMES. Please read the arguments back, and argue against those.
2. Who are you arguing against? Is anyone here really arguing for a white history month? No.



Read the entire thread before you post please. You're reitterating what's already been discussed. Repeating something doesn't make any of it any more true and/or justified, etc.

We already have all those months, they're just not as highly recognized as black history month. READ THE THREAD. Our country already has special months set out for pretty much every ethnicity (notice I said ethnicity, not nationality!) that our country is composed of.

white folks rock my socks too max lol, but they dont need a month haha



all of those insinuate that there should be a white history month. hell i wasnt thinking of posting anything until i saw those. plus...i was bored, and if it really bothers you so much, tell somebody. what people said before was mostly like "every month is white history month" nobody really explained it into detail. yup. sorry if i made you..mad or somethng.

:tone in voice is tired and no real emotion:

Oh, my god... I love you! This is exactly what I have been telling my classmates in Affirmative Action debates! I had to do two last year and I, being conservative anyway, was on the negative side both times. I won the first debate and the second one didn't have time to finish.

Anyway, I think that it's completely racist to have 'black history month'. People could make the arguement that it's 'white history month' all the time, but I could make the opposite arguement just as easily. But, I would be immediately labeled as racist.

Just as when black comedians make fun of white people, which is definately racist, it is for some reason justified. When a white person even considers making an even slightly negative comment about an African American, they are, as usual, labeled as being racist.

Even Martin Luther King Jr. wanted people to be 'judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character'. Our Constitution says that 'all men are created equal'. How can this be so if not everyone is recieving equal treatment?

African Americans want compensation for distant relatives being enslaved hundreds of years ago. If any of these people were personally enslaved, then yes, I'd try and help them. However, I don't think many African Americans alive today have ever experienced slavery.

Why should we even have months for different ethnicities? Wouldn't that just be pointing out differences in people that shouldn't matter in the first place? If you are an American citizen, you are, first and foremost, an American. You may be descended from various ethnicities, but you are American.

Thanks to those bored people who decided to read this.

Rin-chan

how is a black history month racist? its black history month. its not like its black pride month. personally, i agree with you about the comedian thing and that also stands for alot of other things. but it seems as though whenever a black comedian etc, makes fun of a white person, its just not taken as seriously for some reason. I'd also like to see how you can make the same argument that black history month is every month. you quoted Martin Luther king, i wonder what his opinion would be of if there should be a black history month or not.

... this could work both ways. though i'm not arguing FOR white history month (or any month), i want to point out the flaw of your argument. if you don't think black history month is racist because it's history, the same can say about white history month. it's history, not like white pride month.

Racial preference goes on in the NYC fire department, too. If an African American applies for a job there, the fire department fires a white guy so the African American can take his place. Fair? I don't think so. They should just hire both.

Okay, I'm going to take some statistics from both of my debates for the Affirmative Action being racist part. sadolaked acid, you are absolutely correct about how it works.

Most people who take advantage of Affirmative Action are upper middle class African Americans who could easily get into college on their own. I paraphrased this from an African American law professor:



This is taken from a quote by Richard Sanders, a UCLA law professor:



Here are two senarios I created for the debate and my conclusion:





That's all I'm going to say for a while on Affirmative Action. Sorry it was a bit off topic.

Rin-chan

So your saying that saying "white" is racist. Well, don't they say "check one: White, Black, Asian... etc....." on government forums and all that good stuff. <- That's exactly the part that's racist. We should all consider ourselves Americans. One may descend from somewhere else, but you live here as an American. Race shouldn't matter.

I know nothing about history... but I think (and only think) slavery lasted centuries and centuries while the holocaust was a little more than 10 years, I think. <- Then how are you qualified to even make that comment? Jews were enslaved in Ancient Egypt, thought of just as the Europeans used to view African Americans. Look where the Jewish Americans are today? They've regained their stolen honor and reached the top. The Irish and Italians were hated and beaten and discriminated against when they first came to America, just like the African Americans were during the 1960's in the South. Look where the Irish and Italians are today. They are up there with the Jewish culture, striving to be better. They never had any help to get to where they are. They developed the work ethic and valued success, striving towards the American dream. They never had Affirmative Action of nice little months to gain recognition. They did it all on their own. Why can't the African Americans do the same? They're just as talented as anyone else, why can't they do the best they can?

There is no white history month, just get over it and focus on other world problems. <- I think racism is a problem, don't you?

Rin-chan

what do you mean by..the blacks go against the whites and stuff. oooohhh NOOOO!! a brick thrown at her window. do you really think that is really so bad. i live in a really really nice neighborhood, and ppl do worse things than throwing a brick at a window. come on now!!! thats not bad at all. i think u are being a lil bit over dramatic!!!




would you like to explain??




so whats wrong if they called you a white gurl, your white.... right? so whats the problem??

man whats up, with all the ppl, (other than black) acting like blk ppl said that they cant have a white history month. its not like, blk ppl were like, "white ppl aren't aloud to have white history month". man all u ignorant ppl need to think about what you are talking about. but seriously, what would white ppl do in white history month. seriously. you guys jsut want a white history month because blk ppl have a history month. im jsut sayin that what it seems like to me!! why do white ppl seriously need a white history month!!!?? really..why??

because your grandpappy raped my grandmammy, whipped my grandpappy, and ensured i would grow up in the land of opportunity, where i could be anything i wanted, instead of in darfur, where i would be conscripted for an army to blow other kids up.

DON'T TRIPLE POST. My god, you ARE the most ignorant person on Createblog. Just look at what the hell you're saying. White people aren't saying they want a white history month. We're debating this for the sake of debate and discussing an issue where people may have different opinions. This is all for the sake of discussion!

Now, child, please read a few posts, get it into your head what this topic is about and then post something reasonable.

i find the idea of a white history moth ridiculous.
everyone always says white and black but there are so many other races out there.


white people get so much recognition compared to other races


first of all its native american not indian. white people did not create this country they stole it from the native americans. you say the only reason we study white history so much is because its american history. well wouldn't true american history be about the native americans? the history we learn is bout people who came from europe and settled in america.

wut the hell are u talkin about?? and how the hell are u goin to tell me not to triple post, what u gonna do about it. im gonna keep on doin it!! i kno what im saying, i was talking about the ppl that were saying that there should be a white history month. u need to calm down. ur the person that is all off the topic. i kno this is a debate thats y, i can sayi nwut ever the hell i want. ur the ignorant one, u need to get your facts straight right now. danG!! dont have a heart attack!!!

^ oh. My. God.


Woman. GET YOUR HEAD ON STRAIGHT.

-Learn to type
-Learn the rules
-Learn/get some common sense

oh my godddddd.

hey..lets stay on the topic!!

i'm chinese. if someone addressed me as 'chink' or 'asian girl', am i not allowed to be offended? addressing anyone just by their race is disrespectful. it's as if you wouldn't waste the time of day just to learn their name.

white people have done plenty, as have all other races. it was a WHITE man who freed the slaves. there were WHITE men who cured many diseases that helped people of all races. so yeah, that's what they would do if they had a white history month.

no, people don't want a white history month because black people have one. this isn't second grade. i think everything is fine the way it is because it doesn't hurt to learn about other people. stop acting as if everyone is against your race.

wow,^ entertaining conversations, lol anywho


the only reason why anyone would deem "white history month" as racist is because, well just read my long ass paragraph a few posts above. its not necessary. now, my problem with black history month is, i dont like to feel like we are the only ones with a month, (a month that is most recognized) it makes it seem as though that we deserve a month more than any other minorities.
thats what i think this thread is really about. not white history month. i sure as hell would love to have all minorities having a "history month" . i still think we should celebrate everyones history equally all year round. but thats not going to happen, and well, its also too difficult to do. so yeah.

Political correctness is taking over the WORLD!!

Sorry, that's off-topic. Just felt the urge to point that out.

Rin-chan

really? that's great. can you back up your findings?

who's everyone? this sort of generalization is as bad as bigotry.

really now? you mean like in the SATs, where of the 40 some specific people mentioned, only 1 is a white male, thomas jefferson, and there are 7 females? for a race that's a majority, that's a rather minority like repersentation

or do you mean where you get a special prize becuase you're white? like the whites only scholarships... oh wait, those are black only scholarships...

how about the extra points whites get when applying for university admissions or for government jobs? oh right... whites get no points, and everyone else (except asians), get bonus points.

wrong. someone decided the word native sounded too primative.

the politically correct term is indiginous peoples.


wrong. the land was stolen. the country was built. and the land was in some cases bought. the country was completely built by whites and other immigrants

native american history doesnt' cover the last 500 or so years of american history, which is dominated by white people.

like it or not, it's the white people who built america, it's the white people who made it great.