to begin with, i'd like to point out that I do not support Bush. However, I cannot understand why people are blaming him for Katrina, just because he has troops in Iraq. It seems like a lame excuse to protest the war and find a scapegoat for the hurricane

so, do you think Bush is at fault for part of the Katrina ordeal?

No, I think meteorological systems are.

Oh, and whoever the idiots were that said, "I know, let's build a city next to a river, lake, and ocean, but let's build it below sea level."

However, I don't think Bush is at fault. The National Guard is a bit overextended, and this is a good reason why they should be kept at home, not sent overseas, but I think we still have the manpower to cover this sort of emergency.

i feel so sorry for the people down there, but however i do not think bush had forseen the future and decided to put people in war just so they werent there when katrina hit. so i do not think bush is at fault, no way no how. Even though i dont think we should of gone to war.

We can recover from this but i think it will be hard, cause we are a much higher society from SRI LANKA, they are going to recover much quickly ,by that i mean our lives are much more complex from our buildings to our jobs its gunna take a while to recover.

But I think the real question is are we at fault for these hurricanes? I am not so sure but can pollution be affecting the way the weather works???? or the things that we are doing everyday? or could it be global warming?
And could we have helped sooner, i mean they already knew this hurricane was coming, could they evacuated them earlier?

well its not only bush its probably ur parents too or mayb you... the hurricane wus a cause of global warming and u people including me might b causin global warming so its every1's fault so dont blame one person

I don't know if one can associate global warming with hurricanes.

There are, however, some man-made problems associated with New Orleans and storm activity. For example, New Orleans is practically out in the ocean now; it wasn't always that way, though. New Orleans used to be surrounded by marshland that helped absorb storms such as hurricanes. Unfortunately, in the last 60 years, human activity has depleted that marshland, resulting in flooding that basically surrounded New Orleans with water and removed land that helped absorb and slow down hurricanes.

yea those are the things im talking about, its can also be our fault.

but new orleans is below sea level.

Well, New Orleans is sinking, but Venice is too. I don't think that's really peoples' fault..well, not the people that live there at least. The people who didn't have common sense when they built towns there are at fault.

Of course he was. The government freakin knew that there was going to be a hurricane that fell under catergory 3, and that it had the potential to become a catergory 4 or even 5.

i don't UNDERSTAND why louisiana, alabama, and mississippi didn't have state and federal troops ready BEFORE the hurricane hit so that they could deal with the problem and have a PLAN.

clearly, bush slacked off and was unprepared. he won't admit that there is a lack of troops in the south because they're all stationed in IRAQ. speaking of which, maybe some of you saw on good morning america when diane sawyer asked about this situation and guess what his answer was? "commercial break". yep. he DIDN'T EVEN ANSWER WHY THERE'S A LACK OF FEDERAL TROOPS BECAUSE HE KNEW DAMN WELL THAT THEY WERE ALL IN IRAQ.

to be quite honest, i still can't believe this is happening. like i've said, only in america, under the power of george w. bush, would something like this get so out of hand that people are looting gun stores, looting houses, DYING IN THE STREETS, KILLING AND RAPING people, and leaving corpses to be eaten by rats. it makes me absolutely sick to my stomach and depressed to watch cnn and see cooper anderson<3 crying....as the f**king politicians are literally THANKING eachother and saying how much of a tremendous job they are doing as peoples' corpses are LYING ON THE STREETS and PEOPLE ARE STARVING TO DEATH.

where am i?

Okay, I'm just wondering, where are all these federal troops and extra police and military personell going to come from? Last time I checked, Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi are states, and it would take more than a couple hundred thousand troops to make a visible difference.

Not to mention your point about all the troops being in Iraq. The police of states didn't go anywhere, the army reserve did. We're in a war, by the way, and we can't just pull out. It doesn't work that way.

Where are all of them going to come from? Hmm...isn't that the job of our marvelous president? He should've had a PLAN. he KNEW it was coming, and had the power to take control of the situation before it got worse.

The troops in New Orleans don't even have CONTROL of the city. That's how bad the situation is.

And I'm sure as hell not going to talk about the war in Iraq because I'm too upset about what's going on in our f**king country.

edit // im not JUST blaming Bush. The whole government is just as responsible. I just think it's ironic in a way that Bush waited 7 minutes to act on the attacks of 9/11 and 4 days to act on Hurricane Katrina.

Honestly, do you really think that this entire thing is Bush's fault? Does Bush train the soldiers? Does Bush account for every little governmental action fulfilled in the entire US? No. He doesn't. The government does. Stop beating on him.

This was a natural disaster. How do you control that? Do you lift New Orleans? Do you hold back the water? What?

I suggest you provide actual proof or critizism other than 'I f**king HATE BUSH'.

proof? i've been watching CNN and Fox all day. Why don't you flip on the channel yourself and you'll see what's going on.

I'm simply stating the facts that have been reported all day.

Not proof that there is a disaster there. Proof that its Bush's fault.

Of course there was no way to PREVENT the hurricane, but there are ways to PLAN AHEAD so that the situation wouldn't be as tragic and dangerous and putrid as it is right now.

I just want to barf right now and move to Canada. To be quite honest, I'm embarrassed that this is happening right now. (not the hurricane, the after math)

Our country uses 1/4 of the world's oil. 25 freakin percent! tell me that isn't an insane number. we are screwed if we don't change our habits and lifestyles before it's too late.

There was planning ahead. Its just that what they planned backfired. The barriers (I forgot the name) broke.

The problem might be that they're used to hurricanes and didn't take it as seriously as they should have. However, I can't account for every action they did to plan ahead.

We use that much oil because we're an industrial country, and our people like to drive big fat SUVs.


Its surprisingly true how no one hates America more than Americans.

...American liberals, that is.

So you're excusing the government because they didn't take it as SERIOUSLY? They knew damn right that the hurricane would reach catergory 4 or even 5. That's absolutely no excuse.

edit // yes, i think we all realize that. but when are we, as citizens of America, going to stop wasting oil and energy in the world? When it's all gone and we're forced to manage without it?

This is the president that didnt/doesnt? believe in global warming.

Lady, I was talking about the citizens of the flooded states.

I can't argue anymore, my dad is yelling at me.

You know what, after this catastrophy, I think most people, democrats AND republicans, have realized what a horrible president Bush is.

To me, this feels like 9/11 all over again. Except the terrorists are our own people.

The even more tragic thing is that hurricane season is far from over.

no, not so much. after hearing people discuss the matter this evening, i was actually moved to defend bush

oh honestly, hurricanes and terrorists are not the same thing, remotely!!

Why so? Every channel that I tuned into was basically bashing Bush and the government.

edit // i was referring the terrorists as the Americans that are burning down malls, looting homes/gun shops/stores, and shooting each other / policemen.

the policemen can't even go into the streets to save people! they are stationed on the top of the roof defending themselves!

That's not the government, it's our f**ked up society

yes exactly that is the same way i feel. we need to change or else we have nothing else to rely on in the world. we are so caught up in big industries and making money we dont have the time to stop and find another solution for oil.




this debate isnt about oil so back to the subject. nobody did react to the hurricane when it was coming. it was too little too late to do anything. but still the government was FULLY aware something was coming and it wasnt good. why didnt anybody do anything then?? we couldnt of made this less severe, you could of think we would've learned something from the tsunami that hit SRI LANKA?????

What do you mean by that?

The weather is to blame, of course. I don't think Bush really has to do anything with it. The mayor of New Orleans ( where the eye of the storm is, isn't it?), the mayor of all the other towns that were hit, and the governer of all the states that have been hit could have had better emergency plans for a natural disaster. I know that there were plans, but obviously they backfired. They could have had a better plan on what do when the people have been evacuated. They could have provided restroom facilities, set up a government, send more buses. New Orleans is basically anarchy right now. You'd expect people to come together and help each other out in a time of need like this. It's funny how we can help people out with their problems and their disasters, and we can't solve our own problems.

^ exactly. I can't understand why people would try to SHOOT DOWN the helicopters that were bringing food and supplies to them. It boggles my mind.