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Half-Blood Prince Discussion, Spoilers
JasonBeTheMan
post Jul 20 2005, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(aeyungg xd @ Jul 20 2005, 1:21 PM)
i thought of that too, but if you think about it...
if jk's plan is to make snape the good guy, then why the hell would she make it so long and drawn out? it would just be like the "cheesy master plan". when snape goes to kill dumbledore it says there was "hatred etched on his face". i think snape was angry when harry called him coward because he IS  coward, and doesn't want to face that. stupid biatch. (not you, snape. hahas)

jk is known for twisting things, but i doubt shes going to make snape the good guy. the whole "twist" was that snape IS the bad guy. how DUMB would it be if snape was the "guy that seemed bad, but was really good but was actually bad, but was actually good".  blink.gif

dumbledore isn't stupid, but he makes mistakes, and snape said in the beginning, his weakness is giving other people second chances. i just think there was ANOTHER reason why he trusted snape. besides the "prophecy" one.

i agree with you on the malfoy thing. it seems to me that malfoy cares more about his family than he does about voldemort. all his feelings for voldemort come down to fear and greed. he couldn't kill dumbledore, and i think he was on the verge of changing his mind. no doubt malfoy will come into play later on in the book. (with his whole "hesitation" thing going on)
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Yeah, well why didn't Snape kill anyone on the way out? He stunned people at the most. He was told not to kill Harry by Voldemort....but the only one that Snape killed was Dumbledore.....no Aurors....students...staff....no one. Don't you think it's unusual that Dumbledore never once said.."please don't kill me"...or hell....not even a "please don't". Only a "Severus....please". A little peculiar. So I believe that Snape is not so much....good.....but not a death eater.....he is an ass though.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(william @ Jul 20 2005, 3:44 PM)
^err, i already screwed up the smart part  pinch.gif. i didn't read the sorting directions, and mentioned that the people who directed me were in ravenclaw.. i hope they don't delete my form!

from the directions: "Do NOT say, in any way, shape, or form, what house you want to be sorted into or not sorted into—your email will be deleted!"

from my form: "I want to join because some of my friends from another forum, createBlog, are here (they're all ravenclaws), and persuaded me it would be fun."

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oh shit, i [sort of] did that too. let me go check...

edit://nevermind, one of the girls who runs it is on cb and she read this and sorted me accordingly. i need the password to ravenclaw, though...
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(JasonBeTheMan @ Jul 20 2005, 8:08 PM)
Yeah, well why didn't Snape kill anyone on the way out?  He stunned people at the most.  He was told not to kill Harry by Voldemort....but the only one that Snape killed was Dumbledore.....no Aurors....students...staff....no one.  Don't you think it's unusual that Dumbledore never once said.."please don't kill me"...or hell....not even a "please don't".  Only a "Severus....please".  A little peculiar.  So I believe that Snape is not so much....good.....but not a death eater.....he is an ass though.
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see. i'm leaning towards snape not truely being a deatheater anymore. but i agree, he's still an ass. i guess that's why i haven't left my "prof. snape's a dirty little tramp slut" blogring...

i have a feeling in the 7th book he's gonna do something to help save harry/assist harry in killing voldemort. too bad we have to wait a couple of years to find out...
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 11:11 PM
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...so, william is in gryffindor. damn.

and i just finished the second chapter. waaaaaay better than the first. though i guess i need to actually finish the book before i discuss it in this thread ph34r.gif.
 
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^that may help

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post Jul 20 2005, 11:31 PM
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Anyone else have ideas on something other than Horcrux[locket, Harry, etc.]/Snape is not evil/RAB is Regulus theories?
 
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QUOTE(mocassinsx29 @ Jul 20 2005, 9:31 PM)
Anyone else have ideas on something other than Horcrux[locket, Harry, etc.]/Snape is not evil/RAB is Regulus theories?
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RAB could also be Ameila Bones (who was killed) ... im thinkin regulus tho
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 05:36 AM
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I have a notion that HP himself might be one of the Horcruxes,
but im not really sure.

Thought it does sorta seem that way.
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 05:42 AM
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QUOTE
Yeah, well why didn't Snape kill anyone on the way out? He stunned people at the most. He was told not to kill Harry by Voldemort....but the only one that Snape killed was Dumbledore.....no Aurors....students...staff....no one. Don't you think it's unusual that Dumbledore never once said.."please don't kill me"...or hell....not even a "please don't". Only a "Severus....please". A little peculiar. So I believe that Snape is not so much....good.....but not a death eater.....he is an ass though.


I believe that Snape might not have killed Dumbledore if he had'nt made the unbreakable vow. Which if broken would kill him. So he probably did not want to have to kill anyone else.
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(JasonBeTheMan @ Jul 20 2005, 9:08 PM)
Yeah, well why didn't Snape kill anyone on the way out?  He stunned people at the most.  He was told not to kill Harry by Voldemort....but the only one that Snape killed was Dumbledore.....no Aurors....students...staff....no one.  Don't you think it's unusual that Dumbledore never once said.."please don't kill me"...or hell....not even a "please don't".  Only a "Severus....please".  A little peculiar.  So I believe that Snape is not so much....good.....but not a death eater.....he is an ass though.
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he was too busy escorting malfoy out. no one got in thier way except harry, and he just blocked his spells.
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 08:17 PM
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By the way.......I joined planohogwarts.com. My name on there is Lord Baldwimort and I'm in Gryf.
 
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QUOTE(aeyungg xd @ Jul 21 2005, 10:35 AM)
he was too busy escorting malfoy out. no one got in thier way except harry, and he just blocked his spells.
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no they said he stunned flitwick and passed hermoine and ron on the way out and told them to take care of flitwick.. if he was really a death eater he woulda killed them
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 12:51 AM
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JK said that in this book we would find a BIG secret about LILY but all we found out was that she was "good" at potions which I doubt but then again who knows.. Did any of you catch anything in the book that tells us about lilys secret?
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(ichigofan @ Jul 22 2005, 1:51 AM)
JK said that in this book we would find a BIG secret about LILY but all we found out was that she was "good" at potions which I doubt but then again who knows.. Did any of you catch anything in the book that tells us about lilys secret?
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did she say in this book? or did she say, "you will find out a big secret about lily"? because it might be revealed in book 7.
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(basick @ Jul 21 2005, 9:19 PM)
no they said he stunned flitwick and passed hermoine and ron on the way out and told them to take care of flitwick.. if he was really a death eater he woulda killed them
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I think he knew what was going to happen, and used flitwick as a decoy so that Ron and Hermione would be out of harm's way.

Not saying anything negative about what you said, just stating why I think he stunned Flitwick.
 
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i dont know i just still think snape is good ; usually when the twist in the story occurs, harry has no idea about it (sirius being good, ron's rat, who was opening the chamber, quirrel was bad) but this time he had suspiscions all along that snape was helping malfoy and maljoy was a death eater...
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 02:11 PM
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basick and jordanriane

you guys have really good points. when i first read the book i couldn't believe that snape was bad. i was so convinced he was a good guy. but with my whoel idea of it being so cheesy with the "masterplan" and snape's continuous switching of seeming to be evil or good. i don't know blink.gif

and basick. nice spelling of "maljoy" _smile.gif
 
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post Jul 23 2005, 02:18 AM
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harry potter will return to hogwarts.

it will be his base of operations.

no place is as safe as hogwarts.
 
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post Jul 23 2005, 04:05 AM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2005, 10:16 PM)
rowling has stated she does not plan on more books after the 7th.

i'm right you're wrong get over it.   tongue.gif

it's the only way to satisfactarily end the series.
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Not true she could have Harry kill Voldemort, without VOldemort there is no reason for Harry to fight, meaning, he'll live in peace, thus ending the series.

I think that in the end Voldemort will die, but anothe rmember of the small group will die perhaps Ginny? Or Molly....which I would cry, I was sobbin when Dumbledore died and my family tried to calm me down, and I cracked up after i was done, it was funny that I cried from a book, it just shows how well of a writer J.K is. Did you know that the only reason they put J>K istead of Joanne Kathleen is because they didn;t thinlk boys would read it if they knew a female wrote them? It just shows how big guys egos are.


Oh yes and Snape I think he's good and that Dumbledore had wanted him to kill him, to confuse the Dark Lord and to have hium teach Harry to keep his minfd closed because SNape wouldn't let him kill him, but he never seriously hurt Harry enough. Well that;s my view at least.
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2005, 4:07 PM)
the last chapter of the last book is either:

the final scene of the duel with the dark lord, where harry dies, or it is harry's funeral, after he dies killing the dark lord.

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But wasn't the prophecy "Only one of you can live on.." ? Or something along those lines? In that case.. Harry can't die while killing Voldermont can he? Or.. Maybe Harry will continue to exist infinetely somehow.. Like there's another way to preserve your soul without making a horcrux?
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 23 2005, 12:18 AM)
harry potter will return to hogwarts. 

it will be his base of operations. 

no place is as safe as hogwarts.
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Yes that's true. And also Hermoine and Ron said they would stick with Harry no matter what.. And Hermoine will want to complete her exams and all that so they'll probably attend their final year at Hogwarts .

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Sorry for the double post pinch.gif
 
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post Jul 24 2005, 01:37 PM
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I have a bad feeling she's going to kill off more of my favorite characters in book 7. cry.gif
 
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If Hermy ever dies I will seriously sob. And scream.
 
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post Jul 24 2005, 03:31 PM
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j.k rowling says that on the night voldemort kills harry's parents, someone else was there...i wonder who it could be?
 
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voldemort didnt have enough time to make harry into a horcrux
 

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