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michelle_07
post Jul 19 2005, 10:04 PM
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ok, this ginny idea isn't all that great.
dumbledore said that voldemort probably planned to make the last horcrux with harry's death. harry didn't die, it just backfired on himself. so, voldemort was left with one less horcrux than he planned.
dumbledore also mentioned that voldemort probably made his last horcrux with his snake by killing a muggle.
that means, the only thing made a horcrux after the death of harry's parents was the snake. all the other ones were made before then, so anything that wasn't alive/didn't exist before harry's parents' death most likely won't be a horcrux. [yeah, i know ginny was probably alive before james' and lily's death, but she would just have been a baby and voldemort would have had nothing to do with her.]
 
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post Jul 19 2005, 10:42 PM
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I know everyone's been saying it and I agree, I don't think Snape is evil now that I've calmed down from Dumbledore dying. Rowling wouldn't have a whole chapter explaining how Snape did it and why he's evil if he actually is evil, I mean, she's not that obvious, is she?
 
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post Jul 19 2005, 10:52 PM
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Well I'm glad there are some people who agree with me then. Most people put the thought right out of their head and claim Snape to be the obvious. (evil)
 
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post Jul 19 2005, 11:21 PM
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sadolakced acid, i'm going to just agree to disagree.




Someone go join planohogwarts.com and be geeky with me. I figured with some of my free time, I'd join. And I did.
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Also, everyone SHUTTUP about the Ginny theory.
It's been proven wrong, there's no need to keep batting at it.
You're just being redundant; Move on.
 
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post Jul 19 2005, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(quinntastic @ Jul 19 2005, 4:20 PM)
Of course I was devasted that Dumbledore died, even more so than Sirius (and he's my fave character).  But for me, the third book is the best so far.  I'm just afraid she's going to kill everybody in the last book for shock value, and my faint little heart cannot take it anymore!  cry.gif
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^ Sirius is my fav character too. absolute favorite. he's so cool. LoL. n i agree, the 3rd book is the best.

anywayz.. like i said in my last post, i dont think Snape is REALLI evil. i dont realli like Snape that much but Snape being evil is just.. i dunno, it seems like something's off with that. there has to be a reason Dumbledore trusted Snape COMPLETELY. n it is very possible that Dumbledore was pleading for his death, not for his life. i cant wait to see wat happens with Snape in the 7th book. Harry'll probably try to kill him since he killed Dumbledore + Harry always thought Snape was evil.

n yea, i think Harry will be killed off cuz, like sadolakced acid said, Harry is a tragic heros n tragic heros die in the end.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(autumn. @ Jul 19 2005, 9:38 PM)
okay aside from horcruxes...

i think snape is a good guy. dumbledore pleaded for snape to kill him. (probably a very hard thing for snape to do). dumbledore spared his life for harry, which brings the whole "protect harry by dying and shielding him with my love" together, like lilly's.

and the fact that dumbledore REALLY trusted snape. i've read somewhere online that snape could have had a thing for lilly, and was really devasted when he realized that his actions led voldemort to kill her, so he confessed everything to dumbledore? just a theory, though.

go here. http://haneoka.net/karenai/archives/evil.htm
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i thought he begged him not to kill him blink.gif

QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 19 2005, 11:21 PM)
sadolakced acid, i'm going to just agree to disagree.
Someone go join planohogwarts.com and be geeky with me. I figured with some of my free time, I'd join. And I did.
yes. go do. it. now.
Also, everyone SHUTTUP about the Ginny theory.
It's been proven wrong, there's no need to keep batting at it.
You're just being redundant; Move on.
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i did join. then the boards died andi haven't yet rejoined, which maybe i should
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 12:50 AM
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ohoh, go rejoin. they have one of those invision free forums.

anyway, i'm jordan on them.
and i'm in ravenclaw.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 12:51 AM
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i honestyly don't remember what i registered as, which could be inconvenient. tweeak, i assume. i'm in ravenclaw as well

i coudn't figure it out, so i gave up and joined as &goodbye on the boards and andgoodbye elsewhere. it was an accident; they were meant to be the same. but hopefully i'll be sorted into ravenclaw again. i made it pretty clear i wanted it
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 02:33 AM
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you mean you people have actually already read the whole book and it just came out less than a week ago. wow, now i know why i dont read. sorry for the spam, but i had to say it.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 02:35 AM
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the goal is to read it in a day. it took me almost 3 because i had loud kids, no headphones and finals to study for: the longest ever. i was mad as hell. i like to read quickly
 
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we were trying to talk about it, and this girl ran over and yelled "snape killed dumbledore!" and we all told her to shut up and went back to referring to it as ron killed harry, but the girl thought we were serious. i hate stupid people
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 02:53 AM
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Aw..I was covering my ears when people kept talking about the book before I finished it. Sadly, I could not finish it in a day, due to the fact that I am a good sister and lent it to my brother who finished in two days.

The fact that Dumbeldore died was deeply tragic, but I wasn't surprised. I think I was sadder when Sirius died, although Dumbeldore was my favovrite character. But overall, I loved the book. Here are the books in my favorite order.

#4
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Yes, they were all brilliant..I love J.K. Rowling =]
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 03:18 AM
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my theory

1) Snape is a good guy. Before being killed, Dumbledore was saying "please... please". I think he is saying please follow through with the plan etc. I remember that snape and dumbledore were arguing about something, my theory is that it was that snape didnt want to kill the only person that had trusted him so Dumbledore was like you have to follow through. At the end harry was calling snape a coward and that really pissed him off, Snape was probably thinkin he just had to kill the only person that trusted him thats why it angered him.

jk rowling is known for shit like that, example - sirius black bein a good guy, ron's rat being peter petigrew...

2) non verbal curses... all the focus on non verbal curses, and harry's last fight with snape. snape was correcting harrys mistakes everytime harry did a spell. he said that Harry was to predictable because his poor occulemncy and his inability to cast nonverbal spells. snape was hard on harry, not so much because of a grudge with harry's father, but because he needed to make shure Harry aquired all the necessary skills to defeat voldermolt.

3) dumbledore isnt that stupid ... i really doubt snape is evil... and draco malfoy. i think snape killed dumbledore so malfoy wouldnt have to do it, because he made the unbreakable vow, and because dumbledore made him. i have a feelin malfoy won't be a bad dude later on, it was only because of how he was raised that he turned out the way he was
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(Teesa @ Jul 20 2005, 3:53 AM)
Aw..I was covering my ears when people kept talking about the book before I finished it. Sadly, I could not finish it in a day, due to the fact that I am a good sister and lent it to my brother who finished in two days.

The fact that Dumbeldore died was deeply tragic, but I wasn't surprised. I think I was sadder when Sirius died, although Dumbeldore was my favovrite character. But overall, I loved the book. Here are the books in my favorite order.

#4
#6
#5
#3
#1
#2

Yes, they were all brilliant..I love J.K. Rowling =]
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Haha, Those are my favorites in order too O___o

Anyhoo,
What JK is also known for is twist, and snape being bad the whole time is a twist...

You just won't know till something leaks next year :P
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 09:46 AM
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snape kills dumbledore? wow... somebody said who died in the harry potter book lol.

oh wells good thing it's not daniel radcliffe!

lol if he was gona die... that guy who passed away cause he's old should take that part lOL. wait was that a bad thing what i just said? lol.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(angel-roh @ Jul 20 2005, 10:46 AM)
snape kills dumbledore? wow... somebody said who died in the harry potter book lol.

oh wells good thing it's not daniel radcliffe!

lol if he was gona die... that guy who passed away cause he's old should take that part lOL. wait was that a bad thing what i just said? lol.
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Yeaaah, I think it would be safe to say you should refrain from further HBP/HP discussions. haha.

1. Daniel Radcliffe is an ACTOR, and not a character in the book.
2. what the HELL? -> "he was gona die... that guy who passed away cause he's old should take that part"
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(basick @ Jul 20 2005, 4:18 AM)
my theory

1) Snape is a good guy. Before being killed, Dumbledore was saying "please... please". I think he is saying please follow through with the plan etc. I remember that snape and dumbledore were arguing about something, my theory is that it was that snape didnt want to kill the only person that had trusted him so Dumbledore was like you have to follow through. At the end harry was calling snape a coward and that really pissed him off, Snape was probably thinkin he just had to kill the only person that trusted him thats why it angered him.

jk rowling is known for shit like that, example - sirius black bein a good guy, ron's rat being peter petigrew...

2) non verbal curses... all the focus on non verbal curses, and harry's last fight with snape. snape was correcting harrys mistakes everytime harry did a spell. he said that Harry was to predictable because his poor occulemncy and his inability to cast nonverbal spells. snape was hard on harry, not so much because of a grudge with harry's father, but because he needed to make shure Harry aquired all the necessary skills to defeat voldermolt.

3) dumbledore isnt that stupid ... i really doubt snape is evil... and draco malfoy. i think snape killed dumbledore so malfoy wouldnt have to do it, because he made the unbreakable vow, and because dumbledore made him. i have a feelin malfoy won't be a bad dude later on, it was only because of how he was raised that he turned out the way he was
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i thought of that too, but if you think about it...
if jk's plan is to make snape the good guy, then why the hell would she make it so long and drawn out? it would just be like the "cheesy master plan". when snape goes to kill dumbledore it says there was "hatred etched on his face". i think snape was angry when harry called him coward because he IS coward, and doesn't want to face that. stupid biatch. (not you, snape. hahas)

jk is known for twisting things, but i doubt shes going to make snape the good guy. the whole "twist" was that snape IS the bad guy. how DUMB would it be if snape was the "guy that seemed bad, but was really good but was actually bad, but was actually good". blink.gif

dumbledore isn't stupid, but he makes mistakes, and snape said in the beginning, his weakness is giving other people second chances. i just think there was ANOTHER reason why he trusted snape. besides the "prophecy" one.

i agree with you on the malfoy thing. it seems to me that malfoy cares more about his family than he does about voldemort. all his feelings for voldemort come down to fear and greed. he couldn't kill dumbledore, and i think he was on the verge of changing his mind. no doubt malfoy will come into play later on in the book. (with his whole "hesitation" thing going on)
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(angel-roh @ Jul 20 2005, 9:46 AM)
snape kills dumbledore? wow... somebody said who died in the harry potter book lol.

oh wells good thing it's not daniel radcliffe!

lol if he was gona die... that guy who passed away cause he's old should take that part lOL. wait was that a bad thing what i just said? lol.
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we are talking about harry potter and the half blood prince book, not any of the movies. =]
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 19 2005, 8:21 PM)
Someone go join planohogwarts.com and be geeky with me. I figured with some of my free time, I'd join. And I did.
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post Jul 20 2005, 03:11 PM
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yay!

just be really smart whistling.gif
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 03:44 PM
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^err, i already screwed up the smart part pinch.gif. i didn't read the sorting directions, and mentioned that the people who directed me were in ravenclaw.. i hope they don't delete my form!

from the directions: "Do NOT say, in any way, shape, or form, what house you want to be sorted into or not sorted into—your email will be deleted!"

from my form: "I want to join because some of my friends from another forum, createBlog, are here (they're all ravenclaws), and persuaded me it would be fun."

as sammi said... *shakes head*.
 
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QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 19 2005, 10:21 PM)
Someone go join planohogwarts.com and be geeky with me. I figured with some of my free time, I'd join. And I did.
yes. go do. it. now.
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I joined for the heck of it. Username is Maritza. O-o
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(william @ Jul 20 2005, 4:44 PM)
^err, i already screwed up the smart part  pinch.gif. i didn't read the sorting directions, and mentioned that the people who directed me were in ravenclaw.. i hope they don't delete my form!

from the directions: "Do NOT say, in any way, shape, or form, what house you want to be sorted into or not sorted into—your email will be deleted!"

from my form: "I want to join because some of my friends from another forum, createBlog, are here (they're all ravenclaws), and persuaded me it would be fun."

as sammi said... *shakes head*.
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Ah, that shouldn't be bad at all! You just noted that we referred you, and we happen to be in Ravenclaw. Doesn't look bad when I read it!
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 05:29 PM
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ehh.

plano hogwart's sorting process is hard.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 07:52 PM
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QUESTION:

What foretold Dumbledore's death??
 

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