About the locket in OotP.. JK is known to let important details or clues to slip by.. just like in the first book when we hear about Sirius' motorcycle. You never know..

-- Harry being the 6th horcrux entered my mind too. but i havent realli thought that one thru. he probably isnt since if he was, Voldemort wouldnt wanna kill him. but then again, he could very well be the 6th horcrux with the scar n such. maybe a part of him was left in Harry? maybe thats why Harry must die for Voldemort to die? heh, who knows. im babbling.

-- Dumbledore's death wasnt a surprise to me. when Sirius died, i figured the next to die would also be someone Harry is close to, someone he loves/need/watever.

-- what did surprise me was that Snape killed him. i doubt Snape is truly on the dark side tho. Dumbledore trusted him, completely trusted him. so there must be something about Snape we dont know yet (what makes Dumbledore trust Snape so much), i think? besidez, Snape made the Unbreakable Vow, n there he HAD to keep it. maybe Dumbledore knew? maybe when Hagrid overheard them arguing, Dumbledore was reminding Snape that he had to kill him? dunno, just my thoughts.

-- JKR's writing style kinda changed in this book, didnt it? or is it just me? it felt differnt reading this book.

-- lastly, i was upset Sirius didnt reappear. he realli was my favorite character. this book didnt make me cry. the 5th one did.

^ both the six and fifth made me cry. i'm an easy weeper I guess. =T

Hey, any of you guys watch Potter Puppet Pals [I know it's a lil off topic...] Well, I watching it over today and well... Remember this part?



Very ironic. And depressing.

^^
hah yes i remember that...

and i totally called ginny + harry too...i love the ron + hermione development as well, but as for the 6th horcrux...i'm clueless. too many possibilities to think about.

There's no need to be an a-hole about it; People have their opinions, as you have yours. You don't have actual proof you're right or wrong, so shove that up your ass.

Who are you to say that's how to end a series?
An author doesn't have to kill a character to end it.
I've read many books where it should go on, but it doesn't have to, because it's just over.




YES! Exactly.

He's a goddamn psychotic; Keeping trophies from people who have suffered/died, and everything else that he stands for.





However, unintentially. And not so much a part of himself, in the sense of a soul, but rather his powers/knowledge were transfered to Harry.

- dumbledore dies
- snape is the half-blood prince

Hey, thanks for being obvious.

This is a dicussion thread; Not "let's make a post about what everyone else already knows [that has posted in this thread!]"

I think that jk rowling should kill off harry in the last book, but then have ron kill voldie for revenge. I f you havent noticed ron is always in the shadows of everyone else...or have neville kill voldie, that would be a twist in the plot

//edit//
and for the only 1 more book thing, the next book is either going to be extremely long(1500-2000) pages, or there is going to be more books....unless jk rowling slacks off and writes real crappy like

Now to a theory I had about the soul (forgot the real word for them)-



What we know about VM’s souls-

* DD isn’t the only one who knows about them. So does R.A.B

(I think that’s the initials)

* His souls are stored in a Diary, Ring, Locket, Goblet, Snake, VM, and in an obeject thought to be owned by either Griffendor or Ravenclaw.
* To split the soul you need to kill someone
* You have to kill all VM’s souls to kill him



Unknown stuff-



* Whats the spell to split the soul
* Where the last soul is
* How to destroy objects housing souls



My idea involving Souls



Ok so the list of souls goes as follows- Diary, Ring, Locket, Goblet, Snake, VM, and in an obeject thought to be owned by either Griffendor or Ravenclaw. So to start lets talk about the unknown obect. First I would like to point out a few things. One you can store souls in living things, like a snake. Second you must kill someone to do it, and the killing curse is Avada Kadava (I think). Also DD has said to Harry something along the lines of “When VM tried to kill you, he put some of him self into you, that’s why you can speak Parcletounge (speaking to snakes)” ext. Also when the Death Eaters got into Hogwarts they used a vanishing cabinet. How Draco described it, really made me thinking. He said that his friend that was shut in it, heard both stuff happening in Hogwarts, and stuff happening in that shop. There was a connection there. Those are the 4 main thing I am basing my argument on.

I believe when VM used Avada Kadava on little Harry, the spell back fired and split his soul once again. Part of his soul went to Harry while he kept the other half. That would mean that Harry has 2 souls in him. That expains why he could feel how VM is feeling. It would work like the vanishing cabinet. The soul is connecting the two of them.

Also DD says he thinks it is stored in something owned by Griffenor or Ravenclaw. I know this has been said before, but what if Harry is the desendent of one of these houses? Then DD is right, it is stored in one of them.

Now the interesting part, If Part of VM is in Harry, how can he defeat VM without killing him self? I mean how can he kill just one part of him self. This is where I think a big battle inside of harry with take place. I think each soul will struggle to control Harry’s body and mind, but then Harry’s Soul will win the fight destroying VM’s soul. Anyone like my ideas so far?


I have page numbers and more proof for it too

^^hi shirin

back to disscussion

hi brewer! Funny seeing you here...

I think in the last chapter it should explain everything

I think that it's going to, seeing as how that's what last chapters do...

im sory..i shouldve looked at the beginning.

hmmm.. a lot of really good theories going on in this discussion.

-harry being a horcrux.. it's definitely a very good idea and seeing as all the evidence.. the scar, seeing voldemorts thoughts, 'transferring a part of him' and all that.. but i just have a hard time believing it's him. who knows.. its a very good thought.

-regulas black as R.A.B - good theory again.. but there's not that much evidence supporting it so far. i think its definitely a possibility that he's it.. but who knows. oh and umm i'm a bit confused.. didn't that little note say that whoever R.A.B. is that he destroyed/is going to destroy the horcrux? idk maybe i got a little confused there.

i definitely think the fact that harry has the power to love and voldemort does not is going to play a huge part in their battle. dumbledore stressed this to harry and made him understand that although voldemort is a very wise and capable wizard.. harry can love. this theme has always been big in all the hp books.. so i think its going to come down to that to kill voldemort. as for harry killing himself because he is a horcrux.. or voldemort killing harry? i dont know.. i doubt it. its the good vs. evil thing.. and i just don't think rowling would put all of the work into the previous books just to have voldemort kill harry. although it is a good theory that ron or someone else kills him for harry.. but i think it more likely that someone else close to harry gets killed in the last book. i mean in each book, someone dies, getting closer and closer to harry. the first.. 'eh well no one really.. but you are introduced to the fact that harry lost his parents. the second.. voldemort tries to kill ginny.. the third.. um you dont see him in the 3rd do you? like in the 6th.. only two books where harry doesnt fight voldemort. hmm then the 4th cedric.. 5th siris.. and now 6th dumbledore. i think someone close to harry has to die in the last book if it not himself [which i doubt]. someone like ron or hermoine probably.. but idk.

any thoughts for the title / release date of the 7th book?

oh and who else totally cried in the ending of the 6th book.. i cried in the 5th one too and then the whole thing with dumbledore dying was soo sad, the funeral was very well written. oh and poor aragog dying almost made me tear up too.. lol.

Yes, I figured out the initals RAB when I was taking a shower and thinking of Sirius and Tonks.
Anywho, HBP was more depressing, IMO, than all of the other stories put together.
Ooh, and in response to xlauren73x's response, yes, I did cry at the end of the fifth book when Sirius Black died, but at the end of this book when Dumbledore died, I was just sad. Not to mention a bit dark at Rowling for killing off Albus Dumbledore. Ho-hum.

Possible horcrux:

Ginny Weasly

Why?


Now, I know that horcruxes can only be created through a death.. so.. who knows. Maybe it's possible to have killed someone, and hold this horcrux until it needs to be unleashed. Ianno.

I took that quote from CoS to mean that a Soul can only live if it has a heart. Thats why none of the other soul are becoming people. But then again the snake has a heart, so why doesnt it become VM? Hmmmm

Uhm, who are you replying to?

I'm a bit interested in Draco's character. I wasn't surprised he became a Death Eater at such a young age, but I don't think he has it in him. He tried to kill Dumbledore to save his family but he just didn't have it in him to kill him. The only reason he agreed to was probably because he LOVED his family.. and isn't LOVE an important thing that Voldemort doesn't have? and probably most of the other Death Eaters as well. I have a feeling that Draco won't be living a very long life.

edit: About Ginny being a possible Horcrux.. I really think she is one! Especially with what Tom was explaining to Harry about pouring their souls into each other and etc.. I think that theory is much better than Harry himself being a Horcrux.

I found this-

Brand, Rudolf
Captain of the Heidelberg Harriers who, at the end of a famous match with the Holyhead Harpies, proposed marriage to the Harpies' team captain, Gwendolyn Morgan; she whacked him over the head with her broom (QA).

She has the initials..

^ didn't hermione mention her? or was it someone else, i forgot. i doubt it was rudolf brand, though.. R.A.B. is most likely a death eater.

On another forum someone mentioned R and B, which would imply two people.

"On another forum someone mentioned R and B, which would imply to people."

Lost.... what does it imply?

I forgot the 'w' in two.
I don't think it would've been hard to guess that from "r and b," then again, apparently it is...