QUOTE - stephinika
please stop with the raps with only the point to diss one another. thanks.

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QUOTE - AkaRyux
It's not that he's actually dissing Jason; it's just not necessary to make these stupid "raps". If they wanted to joke with each other, they could just do it in private because people like DJ are just littering the writing forum with this annoying shit. Other people who made Jason dissing raps had their topics closed. I don't see why this hasn't been closed yet.

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Okay, I don't see why you have to close these threads. Just because you don't appreciate a part of hip hop for what it is (not all but some of you) doesn't necessarily give you the right to just close down threads and attack people for doing something they enjoy. Battling is a part of rapping and the hip hop culture. How can you not consider a "rap" writing? Lots of lyrics have many aspects of poetry such as metaphors and alliteration and multi-syllable rhyme schemes. If you guys dislike it soooooo much, why don't you atleast bring another sub forum for it. If not, this malfeasance has got to stop. I know im a new member and all and I know that there are already people who don't like me and most of you don't know me but shit, hip hop is something I love so why should I or anyone else be stifled from presenting hip hop in lyrical writing or battle tracks?


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1) I do not agree that rap battles are a waste of space. That is the same as someone saying poems are a waste of space and pointless because they don't like to read poems. Whether you want to admit it or not, rap is also considered writing.. although Jason and Dejay aren't doing a very good job demonstrating that... but it is writing.

2) Read #1.

3) Lots of threads contain profanity. If it bothers you that much, then a "no cussing" rule?

4) No it wouldn't. Well you already know how I feel about this if you read my previous posts.

Not to mention that half of the replies are mindless spam.

I know I said I'd back off, but I'm back anyway because there's nothing else to do. DJ and Jason on this occasion, did agree via AIM that they were going to do this. So it wouldn't be member bashing with DJ and Jason exchanging disses. I'm against the whole rap battling idea for the reason that someone could make it about another person without having consent and say it was a joke.

Doesn't CB have infinite space? And the writing forum doesn't have too many topics anyway. Same goes for "thread wasting".

But I agree with you on the obscenity part. Maybe we should make a precaution that they can't be too offensive or can't contain ethnic slurs, etc?

Complimenting one person's rap is no different than complimenting somebody's poem or short story. I admit some of the responses are derogatory towards a member, and that can be prevented by posting a rule that says like "positive feedback only" or something like that.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean a waste of space because that's the same as threadwasting. But here:

NO POINTLESS THREADWASTING
This includes topics like 'I'm bored', "LOOK AT MY NEW PICS" or "do u love me"
Also topics whose sole intent is to insult someone will be deleted/closed
These forums are for discussion, not attention seeking.
Any topic considered to be a threadwaste will be deleted/closed

As you can see in the red, these two topics are violating this guideline.


That's a good idea.

Newsflash, buddy, here's an example:

pwn?

fallen fairy

That is apparent spam; however, when someone compliments a literary aspect of someone's poem (repetition of words or phrases for effect, for instance), which is often the case, it's a little different than the spam that's in DJ's 'diss' thread.

50 replies of people posting: " pwned" is spam, no matter how much you want to sugar coat it.

I like this idea. You could add that as one of the rules.

Yeah, I agree. It is derogatory toward Jason and DJ. If someone wrote a good, worthwhile rap that was within the boundaries (dissing another with CONSENT), I think this would be totally different. If it was witty instead of shitty, I think a lot more of us would be on the same side.

Yes the point of a rap battle is to try and beat your opponent with clever rhymes but it is not just who insults the other harder that wins. I doubt Jason or Dejay know this, but rap battles showcase your lyrical abilities and force you to use complex rhyming structures, multi-sylabble rhyming, vocabulary, creativity, play on words, etc. to gain the upper hand. Lots of these traits are also used in poetry and spoken word. Rap battling is more competition like sports, than senselessly bashing another member.

This whole arguement is stupid because obviously the members wanting to outlaw these types of threads don't understand Hip Hop culture and the place rap battling has in it.

Yes, I agree that is spam. I'm suggesting a format for all feedback that grades both rappers on

or just simple a rule - Constructive Feedback Only.

Right, Steven, you're the pot calling the kettle black in this instance.

Like you're not one of the people going on a " " tirade.

It's not like your shit don't stink.

I never said I didn't do that. I got a question though.



It looks like you are just upset because the writing forum is slowly being infested with "rap battles" and whatnot so you guys are calling it member bashing.

Then why don't you explain Hip-Hop culture? If part of Hip-Hop culture is about bashing people, then maybe that aspect of it doesn' t belong on cB? I don't know, but the rules are there... I follow 'em and it certainly wouldn't be fair for others to break the rules and not be punished for it.

It's like the humor forum. Some people think that posting pornographic material is funny, and yes, porn can be a part of humor, but it doesn' t belong on cB. Do you get that?

If this is more like a competition, then what is the different between this stuff and the stuff in the "rap competition" thread?

Ah well, then again, I don't understand Hip Hop culture.

Anyway, I'll be content if we can at least put censor disclaimer in these "battles".

Sounds good.

Why would ignorance make me mad?

It's just another one of those things in my life I get to shrug off.

That's right; I'm shrugging you off.

But I want to make this clear:

It's like the humor forum. Some people think that posting pornographic material is funny, and yes, porn can be a part of humor, but it doesn' t belong on cB. Do you get that?

So... do you get it?

How am I being ignorant? I think this is one of the few times I took my time arguing instead of just dismissing the other person.



Lol, yeah I understand what you are saying. I still don't think this constitutes as member bashing but I'm content with a no cussing rule.

So if I write a song/poem about how much a member sucks, but in subtle tones without cussing, my thread shouldn't get closed... right?

You're ignorant because you think that Jason and his fanbase's spamming is humorous.

You want me to post real corrective criticism about Jason's 'raps'?

How about how he spelled 'chief' as 'cheef'? Or his lack of rhyming technique? Or his poor sense of meter?

You know that if I were to do that, you'd just go and interview him, and show all of cB that he thinks I'm a 'fag'. And that's a direct quote.

You're ignorant because you think that kind of shit is funny.

No, because that is a member bash. Remember when Jason dissed Jordan (JMLKTK or wahtever) in the lounge for no reason? That's about the same thing.

If you and another member agree on a battle, then the corresponding disses shouldn't be closed.

but when you think about it.. there are tons of threads that are a waste of space and pointless thread wasting. but there havent been too many threads pointing those out now have there?

I never once said Jason or Dejay's raps were anywhere near good. I even mentioned how bad they were in my posts previously. I think Jason is funny. Many people do.

I think you are ODing on the serious sauce there.

What if that member is Justin or Mr. Acid and we agree on dissing each other? It wouldn't be for no reason... I threatened to yank on his hair because of it in chat.


Oh really, why don't post to me a link of a thread that has as much spam and member bashing as the two disses that is NOT closed, then maybe I'll reconsider and figure out another way to point out how I feel about these two threads?

cry me a river you karamo aaron carter look a like

If you guys diss each other in an intellegible rap battle, and not mocking Jason or Dejay, I see nothing wrong with it.