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Money = Good Grades?
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post Jun 11 2005, 03:53 PM
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Hm, so about a week ago in my second hour class, there was this boy talking about how he receives money for getting all B's in school. He also mentioned that he gets 10 dollars for each b he received and that if he received an a, he would get 20 dollars for that one grade.
Now, seriously, parents have to bribe their kids nowadays to get them to get b's and a's in school?
How piteous is this?

Please share your opinions.
 
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post Jun 11 2005, 03:56 PM
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i wish my parents did that.

140 bucks 4 times a year...

mmm... all the CDs i could get...

well; i think it's perfectly fine.
 
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post Jun 11 2005, 03:59 PM
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I think it's stupid. Of course, I'd love to get money for all the good grades I've gotten. If I did, I'd be a millionaire right now. I'm just exaggerating. My parents have taught that I'd have to earn my grades fair and square and not get anything in return because I'd have to be doing that all my life. I can't be expecting things in return all the time. It effects you when you're older too. You start to expect things everytime to do something well but you won't always get a reward. Bribing them may get some students to try harder, but not all. I have observed that most the students I've met and receive money for their good grades are the students that don't do too well in school. Of course, I'd love it if it happened to me.
 
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post Jun 11 2005, 04:00 PM
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My parents stopped getting me stuff for grades when i was in 3rd grade stubborn.gif

What we used to do was if my sister and I maintained good enough grades all year we could have ONE thing, it could be anything (within reason of course), but just one thing.

A lot of my friend's get paid for their grades. It is somewhat like bribery. However I feel a little jipped that I don't recieve anything for my hard work. If you asked my parents I have the "satisfaction of learning" or "an excellent education."

I think that if you're really struggling it could be motivation, or if you make really good grades it would be a reward. I personally think kids should get something for making good grades.
 
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post Jun 11 2005, 04:00 PM
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Eh, I don't know.

I mean, it may help them to be commited to good grades.
But all it really does is give them a psychological adaption to receive money for those grades.

What would happen if, say, the parents decided to decrease the amount of money they give to the kid, or just rid of it altogether?
 
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post Jun 11 2005, 04:01 PM
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My mother does the same, but fewer amounts of money. I think it's good that the parents would set goals for their children. If you get an A, you get money. That encourages me to do me best. I know I'm greedy/spoiled. tongue.gif
 
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post Jun 11 2005, 04:03 PM
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Eh, the thing is that it doesn't really teach you anything in life.

It even teaches you dependency on your parents money for school, which shouldn't be a task at all but a motivation to reach a certain goal in life.
 
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post Jun 11 2005, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jun 11 2005, 4:00 PM)
However I feel a little jipped that I don't recieve anything for my hard work.  If you asked my parents I have the "satisfaction of learning" or "an excellent education."
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Yep exactly, I want free money too!!!
 
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post Jun 11 2005, 08:52 PM
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not only is is stupid but also very sad. kids can't do it on their own so their parents have to PAY them to do good. my parents won't even think about giving me some money for making good grades because making good grades is something that you are SUPPOSED to do while in school. rolleyes.gif
 
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post Jun 11 2005, 10:18 PM
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My parents never had that kind of money to spare. I learned that getting good grades is a reward in itself. Since college though, I've been needing more inspiration, something more tangible than the intrinsic rewards I gave myself.

Anyway, no it's not right that parents have to give their kids money to get good grades. It's actually pretty pathetic. It will teach the child several things and none of which I can say is a positive lesson.

Now, if the child does good on his/her own and parents feel like he/she deserve a small reward every now and then, I don't see a problem. I starved for praise when I was young and I know what regular pats-on-the-back and "way-to-go's" could do for a kid. But bribing them with money...??? LOL.
 
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post Jun 11 2005, 11:56 PM
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I dont think parent should give out money to their kids like that. If they do, they should give at least 20$ if a child reach his/her 30th A's. At least its better than nothing. Its for their own good because it helps make yourself a better person (such as not being greedy, be generous is a great thing)

Its up to kids whether they want to have a bright future or not. There is always a solution to a problems rather than money. money are to make living and support for the family, not just one person itself.

If anyone disagree w/ me. What's your purpose for attending school or whatever. i think i'm prepare to counter ! shifty.gif rolleyes.gif
 
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post Jun 12 2005, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Jun 11 2005, 4:03 PM)
Eh, the thing is that it doesn't really teach you anything in life.

It even teaches you dependency on your parents money for school, which shouldn't be a task at all but a motivation to reach a certain goal in life.
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well, no... it teaches you that if you do a good job, you get money. like in a job.
 
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post Jun 12 2005, 10:15 AM
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If the parents have moeny to spare then by all means they should do it. I believe that its a wonderful motivator to succeed in life. If you're promised a handsome bit of cash every six weeks just for good grades, then why would you intentionally become complacent and not take advantage of the opportunity?

I've been working since I was 15 years old. Actually, I've been working more than most kids at that age should while going to school and being involved in countless clubs and orgnizations. My parents never rewarded me for good grades. At times they could have, but, for the most part, they didn't. My monetary motivation was getting into a good school, qualifying for scholarships that had nothing to do with my race, doing well in college and graduating to lead a successful life.

My parents are forcing me to 'go on a leave of absence' from my job so I can focus on school during the first semester. With this, anything that can't be taken care of on campus through my general tuition, they will pay. No, I didn't get 200 dollars for straight As. But thats ok, my parents are going to have my back for a few semester so I don't epitomize the "broke college student."
 
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QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jun 12 2005, 11:15 AM)
If the parents have moeny to spare then by all means they should do it.  I believe that its a wonderful motivator to succeed in life. If you're promised a handsome bit of cash every six weeks just for good grades, then why would you intentionally become complacent and not take advantage of the opportunity?
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The problem with that, is that it reinforces the attitude that a person should only do something good because they will get a reward for doing so (especially a monetary reward). It weakens the idea that sometimes you should just do something good because it's the right thing to do, even though you might not get rewarded. It makes people selfish, rather than selfless.
 
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 12 2005, 3:00 PM)
The problem with that, is that it reinforces the attitude that a person should only do something good because they will get a reward for doing so (especially a monetary reward). It weakens the idea that sometimes you should just do something good because it's the right thing to do, even though you might not get rewarded. It makes people selfish, rather than selfless.
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What grades you get don't determine what kind of person you are. It's the same thing with work, people work for money. I don't get paid for good grades, but if the parents have enough money to spare than I don't see why it is a bad idea.

It's comparable to hiring a tutor. You spend money to help your child get better grades.
 
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QUOTE(basick @ Jun 12 2005, 10:04 PM)
What grades you get don't determine what kind of person you are. It's the same thing with work, people work for money.
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I don't see the connection. First of all, I never said that grades determined what kind of person a particular individual is; I never even alluded to that. I said that a person should want to work for something out for reasons other than compensation. A person doesn't have to get straight A's, because it's how hard he tries that counts; but a person should want to try hard because he should do his best, not because he knows he will be compensated for getting good grades. Often times in life, the most worthwhile things are not rewarded, but they should still be done.

As for work, people work because yes, to survive, they need compensation. However, that's not to say that one should work only for money, or seek to a career simply to make the most amount of money possible.
 
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 12 2005, 6:08 PM)
I don't see the connection. First of all, I never said that grades determined what kind of person a particular individual is; I never even alluded to that. I said that a person should want to work for something out for reasons other than compensation. A person doesn't have to get straight A's, because it's how hard he tries that counts; but a person should want to try hard because he should do his best, not because he knows he will be compensated for getting good grades. Often times in life, the most worthwhile things are not rewarded, but they should still be done.

As for work, people work because yes, to survive, they need compensation. However, that's not to say that one should work only for money, or seek to a career simply to make the most amount of money possible.
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Once again, isn't it similar to hiring a tutor? Both giving kids money for good grades and hiring a tutor costs money and help the kid achieve optimal results. Of course giving your child money gives him/her an unfair advantige over other students that come from poorer families, but new books, a tutor, or summer school all give the student an advantige.
 
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post Jun 12 2005, 09:19 PM
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welcome to real life. if you do a better job in real life, you get more money.
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2005, 8:19 PM)
welcome to real life.  if you do a better job in real life, you get more money.
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Amen.

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The problem with that, is that it reinforces the attitude that a person should only do something good because they will get a reward for doing so (especially a monetary reward). It weakens the idea that sometimes you should just do something good because it's the right thing to do, even though you might not get rewarded. It makes people selfish, rather than selfless.


There is a consequence/outcome for everything you do in life. Whether it is the personal satisfaction of a hard days' work or a couple extra ends in your pocket. Its a reward.

Conversely, fail your classes, slack off in school and work at your local fast food joint. What is the outcome? Minimum wage and no future. You can still be a nice person, but you'll be a loser.

Money is a necessary evil. So necessary, that its... GO[o]D.
 
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post Jun 12 2005, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(JAMx33 @ Jun 11 2005, 1:01 PM)
I think it's good that the parents would set goals for their children. If you get an A, you get money.
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that's a good way to put it ..


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however, my parents said like a few other cB'ers said -- you shouldn't expect to earn stuff for tha things you do all your life ..
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 12 2005, 10:19 PM)
welcome to real life.  if you do a better job in real life, you get more money.
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Is that true in all cases?
 
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post Jun 13 2005, 12:35 AM
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I don't think it's the best way to go.
Sure, it may be a sense of motivation, but what is on their mind the whole time? -- "Money, money money. I must get good grades so I can get fifty dollars at the end of the marking period."
Sure, if they make the grades and get the money, they must have learned something, but I don't believe it is the best way to go, really.
I think you should make as good of grades as you possibly can, because that itself is quite the reward. You're gaining knowledge for your future, which will eventually pay off.... literally.
 
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 13 2005, 12:13 AM)
Is that true in all cases?
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well, it's true if you get a job.
 
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post Jun 13 2005, 10:20 AM
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Well..if that's what you have to do to motivate your kids..why not, i guess? My parents gave me $5 for every A I got, for the 1st nine weeks of 6th grade. Hah, I got all A's. Then they realized it was to much money. So it sort of stopped. But I get good grades anyway, so it doesn't matter. But I think it's a good idea..however I think it would be better...if it wasn't so exact. And you just give them a random amount depending on how hard they were trying ect. Idk.
 
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QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jun 12 2005, 10:15 AM)
If the parents have moeny to spare then by all means they should do it.  I believe that its a wonderful motivator to succeed in life. If you're promised a handsome bit of cash every six weeks just for good grades, then why would you intentionally become complacent and not take advantage of the opportunity?
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I'm sure some, if not most of you, have heard of such a thing as intrinsic and extrinsic rewards. Money is an extrinsic reward.

While it's true that most of us are focused on the extrinsic rewards of life as it appeases our physical needs, it is actually the intrinsic rewards that gives us peace of mind and the "warm-fuzzies" that help us retain our sanity in a world of insanity. The Job Market and our work place is, or can be, such a world.

What one is taught by receiving money for every good grade is that one can expect some kind of return for a job well done. Is that true for everything in life? Hell no. In fact, sometimes the good that you do may cause bad things to happen. Then what? Where's your reward?

What happens if parents can no longer afford to give the money a child has been habittually receiving for getting good grades? Some children may be indifferent, others disappointed, but there will be a number who will react quite strongly, perhaps to a point of boycotting good grades until the reward is met.

When someone is conditioned to expect a reward for everything he/she does a good job on, he/she is bound to have a big let down, if not several, in life.

And believe it or not, it's been proven that extrinsic rewards will make light of and distract you from intrinsic rewards. When this happens, what is there to drive your motivation? Imagine that your only motivation to live is for money....

I am speaking of rather extreme cases, but that is what happens when kids are brought up to love extrinsic rewards.
 

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