As I'm sure everyone knows, there are many double standards when it comes to men and women. The most obvious and known one is:

Girl sleeps around=slut/smut/whore/hoe/hoebag (AND SO MUCH MORE! )
Guy sleeps around=pimp/player/playa/stud/"true" man/etc...

Now, that's just cruel. I don't even think men should sleep around. But there are many more double standards than that, too. I mean, there are some unfair ones when it comes to men, too.

Girls can hit guys all they want but a guy can never hit a girl. Not only is it not be fair for them to defend themselves (which it should be), it implies taht woman are infirior, less capable, and weaker. Honestly, a lot of them time we are. But that's just natural because men have hormones that make them build muscle much easier than us chicas. Now, I'm not saying that if we go full force at men they should pound this sh!t out of us. But I do think they should be aloud to maybe slap us back. Not hard. But it's only fair. (Not in a relationship, though, because it's known that the woman have more power. )


I was just wondering what you thought of these double standards. Also, if you can think of any more, post them. And we can reply our thoughts about those, too. Just... er.... yeah. reply.

Well, in this case, it's a double standard because it can be okay for guys to sleep with many girls at once but girls aren't suposed to or whatever. That's what makes it a double standard; the fact that (in some cases, not all) guys can get their pleasure from anyone they want and be looked up to but a girl is looked down upon if she does the same.

Any independent, self-sufficient woman would look at this banter and laugh.

Excuse me while I go get the proverbial handkerchief to rue, and woe the inescapable plight of the female gender...

Big emo tear time... pfft.

no. it's not okay to girls for guys to sleep around, nor is it ok for girls to sleep around. but the stereotypical guy doesn't care whether a guy sleeps around or a girl does.

girls are the ones that call both when and women whores (or manwhores)

UGGH! I totally agree. For the last three days in PE, the guys went outside and played flag football, and the girls just stayed inside and did whatever. They didn't give us any actual exercise to do. It's SO annoying.

Wow... you're really going to have a great time bashing me now, aren't you?

Whether you realize it or not, there are many double standards for women. I am very independent and self-sufficient for my age. Without knowing me, you wouldn't know that so I'd appreciate it if you judge me based on one stupid thing I did and keep repeatedly bashing me on it.

And now... (I'm sure you don't care) but my respect for you once again has pretty much gone quickly down. Obviously, as I'm sure you know, you're being very sexist which, as I hope you know, is a very close-minded thing.

Also, I'm not emo. I like emo but I don't like.. cut or anything. And I don't wear a specific steriotypical style of cloths known to emo girls. I also listen to many other styles of music.

Also, you said to me once that it's against forum rules to make personal stabs at someone. I wouldn't consider a whole gender much better - actually, I'd consider it worse.

It was directed at the topic in general.

Any group that's looking for a scapegoat: men, women, whites, blacks, Jews, handicapped, etc, loses my respect instantly.

One look at the sheer volume of success stories and triumphs over these so-called double standards should be proof enough that recognizing them in a topic of their own is unnecessary.

In the big scope of problems, if a few shallow, boorish comments such as 'slut' and 'hoebag' can knock you down in terms of self-worth, then you'll never get anywhere in life.

CEO of HP-Compaq Carly Fiorina was constantly beaten as a child and is today one of the only female CEOs in major business.

So before you go labeling me a sexist, understand the point of my post.

The point is that despite a lightweight double standard, women, and men, and whites, blacks, and Jews for that matter, can ignore/disprove them.

On the contrary, bickering about them in an isolated topic wastes everyone's time.

Actually, I'd like it to be known that I do not get offended by personal attacks. That can be proven by seven people who whitnessed something yesterday. This girl was trying to bash me and i was doing it back and laughing my ass off with my friends and she was getting pissed and then wanted to fight me. I smiled at her and luaghed because she's so petty that she would make such a big deal out of nothing. So no, I do not get offended by things so petty.

It's not the words that offend me. It's the fact that we can't get as far as some men because of our gender. I don't mean in all cases. I mean, look at Opera (or however you spell her name). She's one of the richest people in the country. But, in a lot of cases, it is. You might not be able to realize it because you might be on of our future men allowing such things. I mean, look at some of the people's examples. It's obvious that this is because of double-standards and disgrimination towards females. The fact is, since "the dawn of time" men have been looked at as supiorer towards women. I highly doubt that's ever going to change. This disgrimination brings double-standards into play. I and other girls have given this topic examples. I don't know if you read them or not, but you would learn from reading them or talk to some women. The majority of women you talk to would probably say at one point in their lives they've been a victim of double-standards.


Also, if you didn't notice, I wasn't only talking about women. I wasn't only looking for things on my side. As a bisexual female, I can tell you from experiance that many guys definatly like that kind of thing. A lot. I have been asked to hook up with guy's girlfriends and hook up with girls in front of them and all that stuff. And the same men that love that kind of thing will hate gay males (some, anyway). And even though that doesn't affect me personally, I still hate that and disagree with it. So I'm not looking for pitty. I'm just making a valid topic that you can't accept. Although, I'm not too sure why.

You failed to recognize my point, again. The point is that despite a lightweight double standard, women, and men, and whites, blacks, and Jews for that matter, can ignore/disprove them.

Invalidating the very topic you seem to believe I can't accept.

*sigh* Whatever... I deal with this shit every day. You're just like my brother and I'm so tired of it; I don't have to hear it from you, too. So say or think what you wish.

People can only disaprove discrimination when it's verbal. If it's something that plays a role in their every-day lives, you can't ignore it. I'm not saying it plays that role really in my life. But it does happen to people all over the world every day.

When it comes to men and women, the rule has and always will be, "If she's gonna hit a man, she's gonna get hit like a man." It's women who changed it and it's women who want to keep it that way. Your beliefs should be taken up with your gender representatives.

like it or not men will always be men. you cant change a man into a woman. well you can, but it's very expensive and they will still have an adam's apple and big hands.


Women are inferior in many ways, however, men are also inferior in some ways. They can only be superior when put together. FACT.


oh by the way the person above the last post said "disprove" not "disapprove".

Well, I guess you could say that we're "inferior" to men in many ways. But, I personally wouldn't look at it that way. I mean, obviously there are things that men just biologicly can do that women can't. I mean, hormones allow men to become stronger so naturally men will be stronger much of the time than women. Not always. But a lot. That doesn't make us infirior. That makes us women. I do think that guys should be aloud to hit girls back if we hit them. Depending on the situation, he should or shouldn't use full power. I mean, if a guy is being a perv and a girl slaps him, I don't blieve he has the right to hit back because obviously, he obviously made her feel violated in the first place. But if a girl is being a bitch and decides to take a swing at her, I mean, he should have the right to hit back.

But we are also capable to do things that guys would die if they even thought of it. I mean, with the whole pregnancy thing, many guys can't even contimplate it even as a woman.

So different genders are capable of different things. I don't think that makes either supirior. I mean, I'll always joke around with my guy friends and say, "I am woman! I am superior!" But once again, I'm joking. So yeah.

when a girl has one month after her 18th birthday to go to the post office and get a draft number, then we'll talk about inequalities.

You think discrimination hasn't played a part in my life? You need to wake up. I've ignored it for 18 long, unhappy years. If you have enough will power, it's an easy thing to do. I even channeled it into aggression to make it useful to me.

What I didn't do was cry about it on an online forum.



I just turned 18 in April. I have to go to the recruiting office next week. However, finally, a valid point.

I just said neither gender was superior.

Oh. Sorry. I misunderstood because of this quote.



You said "many" for men and "some" for women. I misunderstood and took it too literally. I apologize.

Our society is severly messed up. Some, or most, of you may find this opinion old-fashioned, but I think that our gender behavior is a result of our brains; our brains are wired for female if we're female and wired for male if we're male. Science continually turns up evidence of how the two gender's brains work differently. Thus, we develop differently, behave differently, and think differently. I think it's important to embrace these differences.

The whole issue of name-calling is really an issue of disrespecting yourself and others, not a double-standard issue.

I think standards ought to be different for the genders, and it would work if everyone adhered to them, but they don't so it doesn't. Of course, then you do get the odd 'female body-builder' case, where a woman has so obliterated her gender role that her brain is producing more masculine hormones, either because she's dosing or has encouraged it by physical development. I don't know how a standard would apply to that.

BUT, what I mean is acknowledge these scientifically proven facts: women in general are weaker than men physically, men are in general, taller, louder, and more authoritative. Don't get offended by these, embrace them. I'm not saying no woman can be a leader and that some girls aren't stronger than some boys, remember I'm dealing in generalizations and I KNOW there will always be exceptions. But, women are gifted nurturers, advisers, and supporters. Use that. Don't get mad when a guy holds a door for you (not that that happens too much any more) just say thank you. When your husband makes a decision for the good of you both, respect him for it even if you don't like it. Leadership, when done correctly, is not really a position of power, it's really servitude and the responsibility and worry can be crushing, but someone has to do it. If there are not followers, we can't have any leaders. If everyone is a leader, we go nowhere.

Anyway, let the criticisms begin. Can ya tell I'm NOT a feminist?

another double standard.. men are more commonly convicted of sexual harrassment crimes before women.

That's true. People have come to some sort of conclusion that men are more sexually active or are more interested in sex. But why would someone just make up such a theory? It's reasonable to make that sort of assumption that a man would sexually assault a woman instead of a woman assaulting a man. It's happened on MANY occasions. It's a double standard, but it's a reasonable double standard. Am I wrong?

oh, most double standards that are 'reasonable' usually disadvantage men. as for the ones that disadvantage women, feminists have gotten them removed.

which creates an unbalanced set of double standards, with the heavier weight falling on men (hey, men are physically stronger and should carry more, right?)

in the SATs, most problems that use a person reference a minority, or a woman. of the 60+ people the SAT mentions, there is only one white male (in the test looked at). the white male was thomas jefferson (or ben frainklin, i forget)

the white male is the most advantaged and disadvantaged person in america.

Well female double standards were actually opposed by the feminists which proves that perhaps they're not 'reasonable'.
When was the last time a female tried to rape a male? How is that even possible? I'm only saying that sex offenders are usually males, so I'd understand why one would assume most or all sexual assaults were done by men.
And women are proven to be less strong than men, which seems to be a very important asset. Women have quite a few disadvantages, which has led to female double standards. They're true and 'reasonable' to some extent, I suppose. But one shouldn't take advantage of it...

women are stastitically less intelegent than males.

should women be automatically assumed too stupid for scientific or mathmatical work?

rape isn't and sexual assults are caused by a person of power. previously, it was the male that was the boss and the female that was the employee. now that more females are becoming managers and getting higher positions in the workplace, there are more instances of females using thier threat of " i'll fire you" to get a male to have sex with her.

Nobody respects themselves anymore, guy or girl.

Some girls dress to expose themselves, wear tons of makeup and galavant around town dressed like a two cent hooker from a rap video and then come home and complain that guys oogle them and that girls call them names like "slut", "hoe", "bitch", "whore", and so on. If you put yourself out there like that, flaunting something you don't have or aren't strong enough to own up to, it just shows weakness of character. Why should anyone (esp. guys) respect you if parade around advertising your goods (or supposed goods in some cases)?

When open yourself up to the public, by showing skin and wearing make-up to look older than you are, you'd better be ready for other people's reactions.

Guys don't get called things like "slut", etc. because you don't see guys parading around in miniskirts and too much eyeliner, deperately trying to attract girls. Guys just stand there or make some conversation. If the word "slut" pops up, guys think either a) that girl is nasty, b) that girl is easy, or c) stay away from her. If they're attracted to a slut, it's because of the first two reasons (sex-related) and if they're not, it's because they're a decent human being.

Society is not as full of double standards as you'd like to think. More women than men are attending college, getting masters degrees and women are catching up in the Ph.D arena as well (almost equal I think). More women are executives than 20 years ago, women have the opportunity to play professional sports (albeit underappreciated), enter the military, fight in wars, become astronauts, and do tons of other things that just weren't open to women 20 or even 10 years ago.

Just because the girls are stuck inside playing kickball while the guys run laps and do 100 knuckle-ups, doesn't mean that you are weaker. It just means that the school has taken the needs of most girls into consideration. Most girls don't want to risk breaking a nail, getting dirty or sweating their haristyle out before the day's over. So unless your PE class is at the end of the day, most girls wouldn't want to risk all the sweat and dirt of a "real" workout.

American society is getting to be more positive place for women, or so I think. Yes, it could be better...but overall, I think women are doing well...