iz there ne one else who CANNOT wait 4 halo 2 to come out?!
(lemme kno if this topic has already been discussed)

I love it when people try to make valid points about why Halo is "the best game ever!!!!!" when what they're saying really makes no point.

Kryogenix, you're probably one of the few people I actually respect on this forum and the reason I come back here time in and time out. It's nice to hear from someone intelligent for a change.

why thank you. you should stay more often, so that we could hear some of your intelligent comments too.

can't put anything over CS as my favorite fps, but heck Halo is a great game nontheless, some people like it more than others, maybe they just wanted to share what they enjoy in a game. If you dont, you can choose not to post in this thread.

Anyways yal pickin up the new maps?

I know what you mean, he's tthe only one who backs me up about Nintendo being AWESOME!


Anyway, new maps, sure. I dont know if Ill buy the 20$ disk though.

What's so good about Halo 2? I hear it everywhere.

Ok Thunderevermore, we got some issues to cover.
First of all, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark we're good and all, but they're kinda out dated. How many kids do you hear still talkin about havin theyre buds over to play a good ol game of Goldeneye? Haven't heard it in years.
You also quoted a while ago that Perfect Dark enhanced what Goldeneye had done. Has Halo not enhanced wat Perfect Dark left behind?
Now lets get to Halo.
The game is balanced, dont kid yourself. You say a shotgun is just as good as a rocket launcher? Have you even played the game??? Surely, you would know then, that a shotgun is only good for around the corner attacks, and does nothing long range. A rocket launcher is greater medium range, but will get ya killed in short range. They balance out dude.
The vehicles also serve a good purpose. They ghost is a nice 1 seater, but the warthog is fun with a party of 3. The banshee adds some more fun, and the tanks are lots off fun if u can find a friend who can master one. The vehicles also add madness to the multiplayer catpure the flag matches.
If you do not think halo 2 is balanced enough, still, then check out the new updates that were just released on Xbox Live.
You also said that Halo did NOT revolutionize gaming. I beg to differ to some extent. What Halo did do was that it brought the greatness of online FPS to gamers across the world, which had only been avaliable previously on PCs. Sure others tryied to mimic, like Unreal and Ghost Recon, but none delivered the same thrills (my opinion). Unreal was too fast, and Ghost Recon was too slow/stealthy. Not my cups of tea. Halo mixes fast action, with strategic warfare. (gates, teleporters, etc.) Not to mention plenty of game types and modes.
Now how can u sit here and tell us all you found Halo 1 and 2's stories boring? They were compeling and had major twists and plot points. Was it not a fun shock to face the flood for the first time? To discover Halo was actually a storage to hold the flood, not a weapon, or holy artifact? Was it not a feeling of dominance when you first swong the energy sword in Halo 2? Sure the story in halo 2 was a little disappointing, but it acts just like a great second book, or movie, in a series. Halo 3 will be wat sells Xbox 2.
As for the Microsoft loosing money issue, who gives a shit! As a consumer, it doesn't matter! As long as Microsoft never scraps the xbox, who cares if they loose money!
To sum everything up, Halo 2 is the best, current FPS to date(on consoles anyway). Who else will challenge? Killzone = What a joke! It was just made to "defeat" halo, but failed. Geist = looks to be good, but with no online, it can't even compete in the same pool as Halo. You may argue, but when it comes down to it, the multiplayer is what gives a game replay value and splitscreen is kinda gettin old.
To all the Halo representatives in this blog room, yall are pathetic! Get your facts straight! You let, wat appears to be, a Nintedo Fanboy overrun yall, and contol the board. Pathetic. I see enough off em on other gaming websites.
If you think your a big enough hotshot, thunderevermore, then why don't you go to a real gaming website, like 1up.com, and try to defend your point in a Halo 2 club wit at least 100 members. If you think your not a Nintendo fanboy, then take that retarded DS logo off the bottom of ur posts. If you want to look cool, and play the most bad-ass systme in the car or whenever, you get a PSP. But lets argue over that another day.
Last but not least, learn how to show your sources right. Google is not a source. It's a search engine. This makes you sound like a 5th grader. For someone who likes to pick on others for minor mistkes ("It's not FPS Shooter, its FPS. Thats like double quote=ing." or watever) you seem to make several mistakes of you own.
A true source would be like: I retrieved my info from gamespot.com, under the article, "PSP sells 600,000 units in first week".
By the way, it's an "S" controller, not a "Y" controller. Get your facts right before you diss somethin. And wats wrong with fixin somethin thats broke like the bulky original controller?

about 99% of my friends (that are guys) are addicted to Halo and I just hate it I only have one friend thats not addicted to it (thats a guy)! I was looking through a magazine and it said would you choose halo or your girlfriend?

I hope you don't mind if I answer some of these for him.



I haven't heard it either (because most people that still like the 007 franchise are playing the news games on the new consoles), but Goldeneye/Perfect Dark has left lasting memories in all of my friends and I. Whenever we play an FPS, at least once, the discussion goes back to "remember when we played goldeneye/perfect dark and did...?"



It would be better to say Halo has enhanced what Marathon left behind. Unfortunately, I only know of three other people in real life (as in not counting people that I know over the internet) that have heard of Marathon (which, if you do not know, is Bungie's precursor to Halo). The fact that such a fun game has gone unnoticed (a fun game that is made by the same people as Halo) shows that Halo is receiving way too much hype.



I'm not really sure if Thunder actually said the shotgun was as good as the rocket launcher (sorry if I got it wrong, I'm in a hurry, so I only read up to page 4 and searched for the word balance). The closest thing I found was that he said he'd rather use a shotgun than a pistol at close range.

The game does have some balance issues, at least in my experience. Alien Sniper Rifle > Human Sniper Rifle. Covenant Carbine > Assault Rifle. The SMG is better than any covenant equivalent (not sure what you could consider it's equivalent, I would guess needler). The vehicles are a whole different story. Each one fills a different niche, I understand that (human tank is direct fire, alien tank is more of an artillery weapon). but where is the human airplane? Where is the human one seater vehicle (I'd love for bungie to put a motorcycle in the game)?



Halo did not revolutionize gaming. It brought back the FPS genre to the console, but in my opinion, the FPS genre works best on the PC. I don't know anyone who doesn't find the old WASD better than the XBOX controls. In fact, Halo was supposed to come out for the Mac (just like Marathon did), but Microsoft bought Bungie.



I didn't find it that compelling. In fact, I tried playing singleplayer Halo, but decided to stop because it wasn't nearly as fun or compelling as multiplayer slayer. Halo 2 was really disappointing, and of course, it will be a set up for Halo 3, but do you think it's fair that Microsoft hyped the crap out of the game when they knew it wouldn't have an ending?

This little comic says it the best: http://img.penny-arcade.com/2005/20050318l.jpg



I haven't found a current console FPS that is better than Halo 2. However, I haven't found a console FPS that is better than what comes out for the PC. Battlefield Vietnam (and the mod PoE) is in my opinion, better than Halo 2 (even though I feel bad about buying games from EA, but that's a different story). In fact, I had already been playing BFV for quite some time before Halo 2, and once I got to Halo 2 multiplayer, my reaction was pretty ho-hum. The only people I know that think Halo 2 multiplayer is a "shockingly OMG new experience" are the people who have never played games like Tribes, BF and Marathon.



You speak as if Nintendo fanboys are an inferior race of human beings. If someone is loyal to a certain company, because that company has been producing fine products for over 100 years (though in this case, it's probably only the last 20-30 years unless you are a hana fuda connosieur), why hold that against them? Spinning this around, if someone believes a company is wrongfully trying to monopolize a free market, why hold that against them?

And if nintendo fanboys are bad in your eyes, aren't those who irrationally hate nintendo (you know who I'm talking about, those "OMG nintendo is f0r t3h kidx0rs!11one people) just as bad, if not worse.

And yes, we'll talk about the handhelds another day. Provided you come back, considering this is your only post.

its a game....not your life......

its pretty good. if i called it anything less than that almost all my guy friends would kill me lol. its freakin crazy, but indeed i do like to watch them play and sometimes play myself.

ok, so the weapons. Overall, the weapons are off balanced a little, but this is intended. See, if the battle rifle and carbine were the exact same, but with a different coat, then it would be boring. The carbine has less rounds, but gives a better punch overall. The battle rifle has more ammo, and gives better damge wit head shots (try using a plasma pistol to lower their shield, then unlesh a round of battle rifle ammo to the head, for an instant kill). This also applies to weapons like the SMG and plasma rifle. The SMG has more ammo, and sprays bullets fater, but the plasma rifle slows down the enemy, and if cought from behind, will freeze them up. I could go on, but don't feel the need to.Here's that quote from Thunder by the way:

For the vehicles, yea it's too bad the airplane went missing. I was expecting one too after seeing the E3 demo. O well. As for the ATV, you should have checked the bonus disc for info on it. Originally, it was planned, but after many problems with its physics and meaningless purpose (no weapons, just gets you from point A to B), it was removed. A future download seems unlikely.
I also never said that Halo 2 was better than any other PC shooters, like Half-Life 2 or Battlefield.All i was sayin was that Halo revolutionized the gaming industry, in my eyes, by bringing a great FPS from the PCs to a console and giving it online play. Heres wat i said:

P.S. Yea I've heard about marathon, and seen pics of it, but never got a chance to play it. It looks like good ol fun. And what I said about Nintendo fanboys, my bad. I just come from other websites where they are usually bitches, who can't expand their view points to see that Nintendo is loosing ground to today's rivals. They still think it's the glory day in the early 90's, where Nintendo had no competition. It's a shame, really. I guess i just out grew Mario and Donkey Kong, and wanted some Grand Theft Auto, SOCOM, Halo, and Unreal.

Halo 2 is awesom... play LIVE just tops it off...

in halo 2, if u ever played it before (most likely u did), what do u think were some of the improvements, and what do u think got downgraded from halo, besides the pistol. i think the improvements were the convenant, they look hella cooler than in halo, but a downgrade in halo 2 is that the gernades dont go as far as the first halo. tell me what u think.

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Hmm...I'd have to say the most best upgrade from Halo one was the ability to dual wield weapons. That made the game more strategic, mainly in multiplayer, where you could have one plasma pistol charged up to take out opponents shields, and another regular human pistol to get a headshot and kill them, which took all less than 1 second overall.

Also, I like the multiplayer upgrade, the ability to use so many vehicles, and the new rocket launcher lock on thing.

The most major downgrade would have to be the way the shotgun looks. It looks like a freaking toy gun! haha!

they need to make possible dual-swords. gg

lol im so stupid i just found out they are coming out with another 5 new maps in june lol on the cd that they are gunna sell in retail stores. im so excited. the new playlists and maps will make the game seem more interesting.

::Cough:: Time Splitters ::Cough::

That was intended as sarcasm.

Although, I could easily take out a rocket man with an SMG. Simple.

And based upon your statements so far, I can see that you play kind of, well, as myself and the people I play with would say, newbishly.

Aaaaanyway, thank you to Kryo for the back up while i was on hiatus.

And I'll admit, Nintendo is losing ground now, thanks to some mistakes and lucky shots in the nineties, but guess what, there's a Revolution coming, and trust me, its gonna be big.

I'll also admit I get alot of hours in on Halo 2 on LIVE. Mostly because all I have right now is an Xbox (I yearn for my SNES and a copy of FFIII), And that the other LIVE games dont have as many players, and not as many of my friends play them.

But if I did suggest another LIVE game, it would be Phantom Dust, but I suppose thats for another post.

Why don't I like Halo? Alot of it is because the overhype. When someone tells me something is the best, is amazing, and I see it and its sub par, I tend to hate it due to that overhyped expectation. Halo, Halo 2, are not all that they're cracked up to be. Sure, theyre fun to play, and I DID get excited at the new maps, and I WAS cursing myself when I could hear the Flood in Halo 2, but I was not awe inspired.

When I played Future Perfect for the first time, now THAT inspired awe in me.

But thats for another post.

what's the point, sword is pretty much 1 hit kill. sword + gun would be too cheap.

merging with other thread.

There are some new maps you can download for free now.

eh all 4 maps suck , and containment is to damn big .

You think future perfect is the best FPS on consloes? Wow.
Not many think like you. I have zero friends who own it, and those who have played it thought it was ok. Besides my friends, the reviews for future perfect were good, but not great. (8's or so)
Not once did i see future perfect with a high score than halo on any trustworthy website or magazine. It just looks to me like a nice rental during the summer.
But hey, we're all titled to our own opinions.
It's a shame you hate halo b/c it was overhyped. Yes, it was overhyped. Some said little was new but graphics, levels, and weapons. What the hell do you expect out of a sequal??? But it still a rock solid game. There's no reason to hate.
Thunder, you said you can easily take out a rocket launcher with one SMG. I'm just curious to know your rank, before they reset them. Cause either your freakin amazing at halo, or else you played with newbies on rank one.

Just b/c this is my 3rd post on this shitty game talkin room, doesn't mean im a true newb, dude. I know my shit about games. I know what games and consoles are tha shit. I advise my friends on their game purchases. I read my OXM and EGM fully the day I get them. I also download the most important reviews from gamespot.com. I update on 1up.com every chance i can in all forms of game clubs. You should really find a better website to argue about games. This is a shitty one. Thats why im never here to post.

Unitl next time
peace

Few people can appretiate FPSes after Halo2. Yes, Halo2 had very little to offer, other than live, that the first couldnt. What do I expect from a sequel? Innovation! The only genre where the same 'ol same 'ol works is platformers, and even they revolutionize once in a while. People were Jaded by a long wait and their precious Halo 1, and when Halo 2 came out lacking an ending, and any real update other than dual wielding, they were still in love with it. What few people realize is that it isnt all that great. Lack of weapons, lack of character selection, lack of BOTS, lack of any form of a story except some gundam ripoff used over and over, the games dont really provide anything for me except the easiest to use and most thought out Xbox live system, and even then, the experience online is attrocious. 3 year olds talking crap on me, the lag monster improving everyone elses scores but I, and now with the auto update, everyone is a grenade whore. Quite honestly, the game reeks of cheap shots and quick talkers. It sucks. Id sooner play Mechassault or Crimson Skies.

What rank was I? 13. No Im not ridiculously good, but apparently Im better than you.

Time Splitters was a GOOD game. Id list the reasons but I have to go to work.

I WILL RETURN!

True, the story to halo 2 was dissapointing. It's a great cliffhanger tho. I too wish it was complete, but this just makes me want the Xbox 2(althought i wont get one).
To revolutionize a perfect game is such a big and often stupid risk, you shouldnt have expect some holy game from God himself.
If something works, then don't break it! Just upgrade it! And thats what was just done.
Dual weilding is great, the new life system is better for a fast paced game, the addition of the sword, smg, brute shot, carbon rifle, battle rifle, and covenent sniper rifle, were all great new additions to the Halo universe of weapontry. The sword can be cheap, yet it's still fun to play with.
Character selection isnt really a big issue, considering the spartan/arbitor is completely customizable. And if you don't like the look of the chief, then switch to an elite. My only negative comment about this, is that it would be nice to download new logos and emblems, but maps are way more important.
Now for BOTS. Do you really need em? Yea theyre nice, but not really worth bungie's time and effort to insert. To add all these extras to Halo 2, Bungie would have needed even more time, and Bungie even mentions that they had to cut some projects they had for the game to get the release date. If you want to play a good game with BOTS, then buy Unreal.
About the "3 year olds" you play against. If they are indeed that young (or close to that), then with a 13 rank, you shouldnt be playin them. The system was built to restict that. Also, if you dont want to play little kids, then dont play mechassault or crimson skies. These games have just as many little kids, if not more, than any other game out there. No game will ever be able to keep all children off its servers.
And yea, u had a higher rank than i did. I believe this is partially to the fact that I never really get on Live. My family has one DSL jack in my house, and anyone who wants the computer usually gets first dibs. My parents arent that big on videogames, also.
I'll admit, I'm just average, but the game still captivates me. It's the best of its class (console, FPS). Others do a nice job, but none can create as good controls, nor hardcore fans. (I mean look at all the games that copy Halo basic control layout. Before Halo, games were controled like Unreal and Ghost Recon)
P.S. After I thought about Future Perfect, I really want to try it out. I liked the previous one, but just never felt compelled enough to buy FP. I'm really wantin to rent it this summer wit the Blockbuster Gamerpass. I'd also like to try Breakdown.