now that the new moderators have been announced, it is time for the CB Revolution.

What It Is

The CB Revolution is a reform movement of sorts. The goal of the CB Revolution is to achieve certain changes in CB. These goals are to make CB a better place.

What The Goals Are

The goals of the CB Revolution are: (may change in time)

1. The addition of a suggestions forum. (implemented)
2. Having each forum have a mod that will check all threads and posts in that forum. (come on...)
3. The reform of the Moderation System; namely, a better system for denoting verbal warnings. (implemented)
4. The informing of members about changes. Suprises are nice- but if a change affects members greatly, it is better to have member imput. (not needed)

Why These Goals?

These are the goals fo the CB Revolution, with explinations on why they should become reality:

1. The addition of a suggestions forum.
The core of online communities are it's members. An online community can have good resources, and good administrators and staff, and yet, without members it is useless. Members often have the best ideas about things that will affect them- yet currently in CB, there is no way for these ideas to be submited, save PM or a topic lost in the forums. There is no dedicated forum where users may post an idea for CB they have, for the admin ,staff, and members to see if it's a good one. Many online communities have them, and they help with keeping the community on the track the members wish it to be.

2. Having each forum have a mod that will check all threads and posts in that forum.
CB is a large forum. There are many threads, and many more posts. Yet currently, it is possible for a thread, and even more probable a post, that never gets read by a moderator. Sure, there's the report for things like that. however; members have been told that before a mod will get the PM from the report, the topic or post will have been moderated already. This is evidently not happening. Sometimes whole forums are bypassed by mods for a few days. Every police department give's it's officers beats to walk, thus insuring everything is covered. Why should createblog be different? Like policemen, moderators cannot patrol all of CB. If all the policemen in a district went around in one big bus, they would be very ineffective. moderators should spread out, and thus better utilize thier numbers. There is no use for threads in the lounge to be looked over by four different moderators within it's first 30 minutes, while a thread in cars is overlooked for 3 days.

3. The reform of the Moderation System; namely, a better system for denoting verbal warnings.
This reform would be mainly backstage, and may already be done. A member may get 5 verbal warnings a day from 5 different mods, and never get a warning increase. This shouldn't happen; the second verbal should result in an actual. With this reform, this would happen. However, this isn't the only thing in the moderation system that should be changed. moderators should warn more freely- if the rules are let to slack too much, it is not good. of course, too strict isn't good either, but that's why there are verbal warnings.

4. The informing of members about changes. Suprises are nice- but if a change affects members greatly, it is better to have member imput.
Members do not enjoy being in the dark. Moreover, members would not know if they liked the change or not? why go through the trouble to have CB recoded (example) if the members don't like it? Of course, not everything should be announced ahead of time- but certain changes should, and member imput should be collected, as member imput is valuble.

How to support the CB Revolution

This is how to support the CB Revolution:

1. Declare your support in this thread.

2. Copy this code into your signature


3. design a banner for the CB Revolution, etc.

when CB was given a new 'skin', namely the boxy icons to the left of every thread were 3-d, as well as some forum elements...

am i even talking about the appointment of mods?
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i'm talking about justin's idea to make each mod assigned to one forum.

we don't have a say in the appointment of mods either. OHHHH FRIGGINNNN WELLLL.

well then why did you address your reply to me, when i havent mentioned that aspect of the idea, as opposed to justin?

as for the rest of my post. well, still stands

PM a friggin admin if you have a problem with how mods are chosen. have any of you even DONE that yet, besides just complaining to us mods who have no control over it about it?

Ok, the only reason why it was taken off is because the majority of the members were lashing out on Jusun because they can't friggin accept change! They didn't like it because they didn't know what everything stood for, but didn't want to wait and try to learn and get used to them. Life is about changes. If you don't adapt to them, then well.....you know what kind of life you'll live.

I was honestly waiting for a mod to say that Sammi. =D. Now that it has been said, I would like to point out that it was mentioned as boss, and not leader/overfounder. Boss.... strong word, often leads to thinking of overpowerment, no? Is it not true then, that most of the mods are fearful of Jusun because he does have this "boss" figure?

Boss does not necessarily have to mean someone who is harsh/mean/overpowering. No one should fear Jusun because he is so damn kind.

has it not occurred to you that people HAVE pmed the admins, sammi, ad that we're talking here to see how other people feel?



clearly, not if you are a mod

if you're talking about being fearful of losing your job, uh duh. i think anyone in any job situation is fearful of making the wrong impression on their boss. o_O

but trust me, we'll stand up to jusun if we strongly diagree with some of his decisions, since we're around here more than he is and if we've seen examples we can use to prove why it's a bad decision, then we'll use them. at least, i will - i talk to him on AIM whenever he's on about stuff like this. although, he hasn't been on in a while..

Mona, you contradicted your beliefs. Look at what you wrote, people can't friggen accept change. That applies to YOU with this condition as well dear.

in that respect, micron is more like lenin. not that jusun is like lenin in his ideology, but in the respect that he holds all the power yet prefers to work quietly behind the scenes

1) talk in the chatroom. the new mods must feel like crap since people are protesting their appointment so much. don't ask us what the reasons were. don't debate their appointment here. that's something to be discussed off the forums or in private with an admin. if you've PMed them, great, wait for your response. we're sick of being bothered about reasons they were appointed when we too don't have a say in it.

2) what, so any change YOU agree with is good, and any one you don't is bad? you keep saying all these changes would benefit cb, but i don't think you know how hard it is to run a forum or even be a mod on one. there's 30,000 members we have to consider. not just a couple who agree with the idea. sure we may not agree with the mods that were chosen, but sometimes you just have to suck it up. make your own forum if you really don't like how cb is being run. or you can take it up with jusun.

we're just doing our jobs.

What change? I am not contradicting myself. If you mean about voting, I stated my reasons (which was not because I can't accept change). And which change are you talking about that I can't bare to accept now?

Comparisons between foreign leaders and the "boss" of cB doesn't.... help much.

He holds all the power yet? It is entertaining to see that people are admitting this.

yes, not many people liked it. and it was changed back. ( which is good). but if you were Jusun. would you like to roll out a change and have it be badly recieved?

sure, don't include that. it's just seems like a more efficient way to bring about change. by introducing members to it before changing them over.

He doesn't exactly hold all the power. And I never compared him to a foreign leader, if that was towards me. He holds power because he CREATED all of this. He has the highest control and status because of that. But of course, the supermods and admins also have a lot of power.

And yet why does anyone have to "take it up with Jusun"?

It is a community to dispute and find a common grounds between eachother. Why the hell does it have to be one person's choice whether to abolish it or not?

in the process



im not protesting their appointment. im protesting for a greater say in general, and also, i think you'll find that at least one of th enew mods strongly supports what's being said here.



so shut up and let it lie. it takes two to keep a conversation going.



im sorry. at what point did 29,998 members say that this was a bad idea? i must have missed that.

and if its so horribly difficult, why not allow some sort of subsidiarity. that would surely make your lives easier

Come on, they were just a few symbols and buttons that even little kids can understand. He probably changed it back because he wanted everyone to be happy and comfortable. What other way could it have been introduced if it didn't actually replace the other buttons? How could people have known whether they like one over the other if they didn't see it first?

they have to take it up with jusun because frankly, it is his forum. you(generic) can deny it and insist its public all you like, but the fact is, he owns it, and hes the power to take it away.

Oh, and for Jusun being a "boss".

Hm, well he would be here to hear about the debate going on, and to debate himself.

This is putrid how we should just go to him for an "answer".

This is god figurely. Horrid.

You know what's funny? The funny thing is that this entire thing could be so much simpler if Jusun just says something already. We're arguing about mods? Why can't the head of this entire thing just clear it up already?

Face it people. CB is falling. I'd hate to be the doomsdayer of this entire thing, but it's falling. It's falling fast.

If the Mods are working for Junsun then shouldn't they have an answer?

Because he has a life. And is very busy with college.

Oh and if you are truly mods, then you would be mods for the community, not mods for Jusun just to impress him. Just wanted to say that.

And I must agree with Ariel on the last part. Period