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eating shark fins, humane or not?
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post Mar 28 2005, 10:47 PM
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eleeza,Mar 28 2005, 9:44 PM]If no human ate meat, some species of animals would overpopulate the Earth.
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As would man. With an abundance of nutrients in our bodies, me and women would become both more fertile and more sterile.

I apologize for being the assumed 'tree-huggin hippie' by posing this argument but allowing certain species of animals to roam the earth isn't something I'm opposed to. I'm much more against the senseless mass murder of steers than I am those same steers walking around the plains of Texas, minding their own business.

With the sermon, I was simply supporting the statement with esoteric that certain people can relate to. See, I don't think it's just a shark. To you, maybe. To me, its a representation of what we've (broad generalization) become as inhumane human beings. So its ok to do such a thing to shark just for fins that, apparently, do taste good?

ItzOnlySydney- Such an insightful response! I'm not saying eating meat is bad or wrong, however, the way in which the meat is obtained is just morally wrong.
 
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post Mar 28 2005, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 28 2005, 9:38 PM)
Oh, but we can. Every nutrient found in meat is found in fruits and vegetables.



wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

hehe... technicallity here.

meat has nutrients your body needs that no vegetables or fruits can provide. However, your body makes them themselves.

beware the 'healthy ' vegetarian diet. unless a specific variety of legumes are eaten, vegetarians will lake certain essential amino acids.
 
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post Mar 28 2005, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Mar 28 2005, 10:02 PM)
wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

hehe... technicallity here. 

meat has nutrients your body needs that no vegetables or fruits can provide.  However, your body makes them themselves.

beware the 'healthy ' vegetarian diet.  unless a specific variety of legumes are eaten, vegetarians will lake certain essential amino acids.
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Which explains the vitamins the doctor recommended. You and your damn technicalities, Acid. rolleyes.gif

Whats your take, in depth on the shark slaughter?
 
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post Mar 28 2005, 11:10 PM
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You do know how sharks obtain their food, right?
 
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post Mar 28 2005, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE([f]eleeza @ Mar 28 2005, 10:10 PM)
You do know how sharks obtain their food, right?
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Yes. Sharks like hammerheads and great whites attack their prey by charging it once or twice then disappearing while the victim bleeds to death. The shark then returns to feed. The bigger the meal, the longer it lasts. A full grown sea lion, for example can last a shark 2-3 months. Discovery Channel will get ya.
 
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post Mar 28 2005, 11:42 PM
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shark hunting needs to be regulated (it already is, but better) like whales were. If a shark is caught, all of it should be used.

the problem with fin hunting is the same problem that happened with tusk hunting and elephants.

however; regulation will not help that much, cultural changes are needed.
many far-eastern cultures eat shark fin soup; however, there are ads in these nations trying to curtail the consumtion of shark-fin.

the reason why sharks cannot be over-hunted is becasue they are an integral part of the food chain. if an overhunting were allowed, it would be akin to removing the wolves from yellowstone.
 
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post Mar 28 2005, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(lilphoenix @ Mar 28 2005, 7:36 PM)
Face it... we're carnivorous.

Sharks eat humans, humans eat shark fins. Eh, what to do?
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first of all...sharks do not try to "eat" us. they simply mistake us for sea lions and stuff and when they take a bite and realize you dont taste like sea lion, they'll let you go.

do you know how they get shark fin? the catch a shark..cut off its fins alive and then just throw it back in the ocean.. cry.gif . im against eating animals even though im not a vegetarian.
 
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QUOTE(aznxdreamer @ Mar 28 2005, 10:54 PM)
first of all...sharks do not try to "eat" us. they simply mistake us for sea lions and stuff and when they take a bite and realize you dont taste like sea lion, they'll let you go.

do you know how they get shark fin? the catch a shark..cut off its fins alive and then just throw it back in the ocean.. cry.gif . im against eating animals even though im not a vegetarian.
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That was an admirable statement but how the hell aren't you a vegetarian if you're against eating animals? So you eat animals but you're against it? So you're a hypocrite? No, wait, let me get myself together. Are you confusing vegetarianism and veganism? Ok, seriously, I'm lost. mellow.gif
 
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post Mar 29 2005, 02:00 AM
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Food is food. Personally, I could eat after being in a slaughterhouse or even while being in one. It's natural. I see no reason to feel ashamed or sick. Why should I?
 
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Hmmm i could go for a thick rare steak right now...
 
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post Mar 29 2005, 03:20 AM
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QUOTE(Sumiaki @ Mar 28 2005, 4:50 PM)
It tastes really good.  _smile.gif  I <3 Shark Fin Soup.

I guess I get what you're saying. But i don't think it's inhumane. But what about dogs?  mellow.gif
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i dont think its inhumane i mean afterall we eat all sorts of things... chickens, cows, pigs... wouldn't that be inhumane? .. dogs??? we eat dogs? blink.gif
 
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post Mar 29 2005, 12:16 PM
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Hmmm i could go for a thick rare steak right now...


Don't come into debates just to make dumb little statements to annoy people.

...Anyway I think the killing of sharks to take thier fins is wrong. Like someone stated before, the shark's fin is cut off while the shark is still alive and the rest of the body is thrown back into the ocean. It's cruel and unnecessary.


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i dont think its inhumane i mean afterall we eat all sorts of things... chickens, cows, pigs... wouldn't that be inhumane? .. dogs??? we eat dogs? blink.gif


That's inhumane too but this debate is about shark fins.

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Food is food. Personally, I could eat after being in a slaughterhouse or even while being in one.


Wow you're sick. huh.gif
 
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post Mar 29 2005, 04:39 PM
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Food is food. Personally, I could eat after being in a slaughterhouse or even while being in one.


Agreed. Food is food,

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first of all...sharks do not try to "eat" us. they simply mistake us for sea lions and stuff and when they take a bite and realize you dont taste like sea lion, they'll let you go.

do you know how they get shark fin? the catch a shark..cut off its fins alive and then just throw it back in the ocean..  . im against eating animals even though im not a vegetarian.


Sharks dont eat us thats right. They smell the blood and think of us as food mistaking us for their original prey.

The two sides can quarrell all they want, there will be no real conclusion to come of this. Personally I dont care. Like someone said above, food is food.
 
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post Mar 29 2005, 04:54 PM
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by that logic, whaling should be allowed.

the reason why it's inhumane is because it's depleting the shark population. Some species are endangered. others are soon following.
 
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post Mar 29 2005, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(Funky Buddha @ Mar 29 2005, 4:39 PM)
Sharks dont eat us thats right. They smell the blood and think of us as food mistaking us for their original prey.
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but they still eat us... even if they do mistake us... anyway food is food and everyone has different customs. im west indian and i eat chicken feet and pig feet. its just your culture.
 
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post Mar 29 2005, 04:59 PM
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i had shark fin soup before.. i dont really remember what it tasted like... well sharks dont eat us on purpose unless you bother it with it;s territory...but its like us eating chicken, fish,duck, and w/e...
 
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QUOTE(Angel_Cece @ Mar 29 2005, 4:56 PM)
but they still eat us... even if they do mistake us... anyway food is food and everyone has different customs. im west indian and i eat chicken feet and pig feet. its just your culture.
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Were not talking about Jaws here or that other Shark movie. Were talking about actual Sharks, once they take a bite out of us and realise we are not what they want they will just let us go.

A lot of animals are highly endangered and there are still cultures out there hungting and eating them. It is cruel how they get the Shark fins, they might as well kill the damn thing and eat the rest of it. If it doesn't have its fin, how the hell is it gonna survive?
 
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QUOTE(Funky Buddha @ Mar 29 2005, 5:04 PM)
Were not talking about Jaws here or that other Shark movie. Were talking about actual Sharks, once they take a bite out of us and realise we are not what they want they will just let us go.

A lot of animals are highly endangered and there are still cultures out there hungting and eating them. It is cruel how they get the Shark fins, they might as well kill the damn thing and eat the rest of it. If it doesn't have its fin, how the hell is it gonna survive?
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don't you think its also cruel to hunt other animals for food? Chickens are almost endangered.... _unsure.gif
 
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post Mar 29 2005, 05:11 PM
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Chickens are almost endagered? huh.gif

But but, the farms, and the many chicken eggs... oh wait now I remember... but chicken is good... dont think I could ever not eat chicken.

It is cruel, at the same time it is "human nature." Its the way of life, animals hunting other animals, us ourselves as humans are just another breed of animal life. We hunt and eat others to survive as do the rest out there.
 
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if sharks could be farmed, and only the farmed ones were killed, then it woudl not be inhumane.
 
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people eat tiger penises. people eat fish eggs. people eat shark fins. big whoop.
 
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post Mar 29 2005, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 29 2005, 12:20 AM)
That was an admirable statement but how the hell aren't you a vegetarian if you're against eating animals? So you eat animals but you're against it? So you're a hypocrite? No, wait, let me get myself together. Are you confusing vegetarianism and veganism? Ok, seriously, I'm lost. mellow.gif
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if i went vegetarian..i would turn anorexic. im 90 pounds, 14, and 5'8. its for health reasons.
 
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its inhumane because what they do is, they kill a shark just for its fin. sometimes, they just cut the fin off, and throw the shark back into the water.


damn...but it tastes good. sad.gif
 
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Chinese said that u will be more beautiful after eating the shark fins.
Do u believe dat?
 
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i think its human but i also think eating shark fins is disgusting.
 

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