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Michael Jackson, Innocent or guilty?
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post Mar 28 2005, 01:44 AM
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Okay, I haven't really been following his case. But can someone inform me on what evidence (besides the childs testimony) do the prosecuters have on michael?
 
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post Mar 28 2005, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Mar 27 2005, 11:58 PM)
well then, if you agree with what he said, it's not true, and i was right so...keep your opinion the same..
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post Mar 28 2005, 04:53 PM
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blacks only seem disadvantaged because there are more poor blacks. it is really poor people who are disadvantaged.
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Mar 28 2005, 3:53 PM)
blacks only seem disadvantaged because there are more poor blacks. it is really poor people who are disadvantaged.
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Well, thats a given. In Texas, its the Mexicans who're given a tough time instead of black people. In regards to someone of color getting a stricter ruling in court, the same thing can be applied with Mexicans (in San Antonio, that is).
 
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post Mar 28 2005, 05:59 PM
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We're kinda getting off topic here.
 
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QUOTE(alvin_ward155 @ Mar 28 2005, 4:59 PM)
We're kinda getting off topic here.
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Ok, ok, my bad. Let's get back to the albino piece of plastic that has a weird fetish for pre-pubescent boys.
 
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post Mar 28 2005, 06:05 PM
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What I don't get is, why would they finally confess that MJ did that to them at the LAST minute?
 
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QUOTE(alvin_ward155 @ Mar 28 2005, 5:05 PM)
What I don't get is, why would they finally confess that MJ did that to them at the LAST minute?
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Good question. You'd think that if they were really offended by his actions that news of his misconduct would've surfaced much sooner. Not months later.
 
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post Mar 30 2005, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE
Good question. You'd think that if they were really offended by his actions that news of his misconduct would've surfaced much sooner. Not months later.


Are you defending MJ or suggesting that his actions of pedophilia are acceptable?
I suppose you are
You agree with pedophilia you sick, perverse, retard
You may agree that molestering young chilren is right but the rest of the population who are not retarded don't agree with abnormal butt monkies like you
 
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post Mar 30 2005, 03:53 PM
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Of course, if they didn't have proof that he molested kids then his trial probably wouldn't last this long.
 
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post Mar 30 2005, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Mar 27 2005, 4:37 PM)
oh please, that is not true.
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When is the last time you seen a white dude get the sh*t beat out of him for no reason by some cops. Answer me this then, why does the police brutality only happen to black people then? Ive seen a lot of of tapes where a n*gga like myself has got the f*ck beat of them for no apparent reason. But your not black so I guess you probaly couldn't relate.

ANYWAY THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF CHILD MOLESTATION SO HE MUST BE INNOCENT.
 
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post Mar 30 2005, 04:45 PM
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I think he did..

But I think the parents should be blamed as well..

I mean I dont care how much money you want, if Michale Jackson asked if one of my kids wanted to spend the night as his house or go to his ranch..

NO!

I mean, even if it WASNT Michale Jackson why the hell would he want to spend time with 10 year old boys that arnt family? Exactly.

SO I think the Parents should be on trial as well.. what kind of morons..
 
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post Mar 30 2005, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(nightmare4taki @ Mar 30 2005, 3:00 PM)
When is the last time you seen a white dude get the sh*t beat out of him for no reason by some cops. Answer me this then, why does the police brutality only happen to black people then? Ive seen a lot of of tapes where a n*gga like myself has got the f*ck beat of them for no apparent reason. But your not black so I guess you probaly couldn't relate.

ANYWAY THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF CHILD MOLESTATION SO HE MUST BE INNOCENT.
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there's black cops too, and i haven't seen ANYONE get beat up by cops for no reason, much less only black people. if the cops are racist, that just means they're bad people, but that does not make the entire judicial system racist. if a cop brings a black man into court, and he gets convicted; well then, he probably did it. even if that cop was racist, i doubt the entire jury and the judge and the witnesses were all racist.

anyway, i think michael jackson is guilty for at least one of them; but i doubt all of these kids got molested and are all bringing it up at the same time.
 
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post Mar 30 2005, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Mar 30 2005, 3:52 PM)
there's black cops too, and i haven't seen ANYONE get beat up by cops for no reason, much less only black people. if the cops are racist, that just means they're bad people, but that does not make the entire judicial system racist. if a cop brings a black man into court, and he gets convicted; well then, he probably did it. even if that cop was racist, i doubt the entire jury and the judge and the witnesses were all racist.

anyway, i think michael jackson is guilty for at least one of them; but i doubt all of these kids got molested and are all bringing it up at the same time.
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So you mean to tell me that the kid in Inglewood, California deserved to get the sh*t beat out of him for having a speech impediment. Besides when have you seen a black cop beating up on another person. My people get hit with the taser and yours get treated like royalty. Obviously you must be lost since the government did everything it could to stop the Black Panthers but did not intervene with the KKK. Your not black so you don't see what I see. Not to be arguing Im just stating fact.
 
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post Mar 31 2005, 08:23 AM
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My reaction to the outbr3ak of the news that he's being charged for underage molestation is *wow* and *eww!* haha! but im not sure whether to believe it or not.. but i dont know! it could also be a scam.. hahaha! :D all i wish for is that there will be justice!
 
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post Mar 31 2005, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(nightmare4taki @ Mar 30 2005, 7:47 PM)
So you mean to tell me that the kid in Inglewood, California deserved to get the sh*t beat out of him for having a speech impediment. Besides when have you seen a black cop beating up on another person. My people get hit with the taser and yours get treated like royalty. Obviously you must be lost since the government did everything it could to stop the Black Panthers but did not intervene with the KKK. Your not black so you don't see what I see. Not to be arguing Im just stating fact.
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that is one of the most blantantly racist thing i've heard.

'my people' ? WTF? do think it's blacks against whites?

police are human. humans make mistakes. there have been white teenagers shot too for no apparent reason. however, only the black ones make it into the headlines.

when have you seen a white cop beating on another white guy? when have you seen an white cop beating on a black guy? are white cops only beating on black guys? or are you so racist, you refuse to see it when white cops beat up white guys.

i'll assume that 'my people' are blacks.
and of course, that would mean that blacks get hit by tasers. which is, of course true.
i'll assume that 'your people' are whites.
and the queen of enland is white, so that is true.

however, white people get hit by tasers too.
black people are princes and kings and queens too.

what you fail to understand is that statistics need to be taken in context.

sure; more blacks are arrested, etc. (% wise).
however; what you fail to realize is how much context plays into stats.

there are more blacks (% wise) than whites (% wise) below the poverty line. etc. etc.

it is not blacks that get tasered, it is poor people.

you are mistaking discrimination based upon appearance with discrimination based upon race.


four senarios:

if a black 'dude' walks up to you, with his pants quite baggy and saggying, with a doo rag, oversized shirt, 'bling', etc. with his hand in his pocket, yelling at you at get away from his car

if a white 'dude' walks up to you, with his pants quite baggy and saggying, with a doo rag, oversized shirt, 'bling', etc. with his hand in his pocket, yelling at you at get away from his car

if a black man, well dressed and shaven, walks up to you, with his hand in his pocket and yells at you to get off his car

if a white man, well dressed and shaven, walks up to you, with his hand in his pocket and yells at you to get off his car

and you have a taser
which ones are you going to taser?


about the black panthers.

does the fact that they protested by massing, all with loaded weapons, contribute, you think, to the government's efforts to stop it?

does the fact that one of thier leaders killed a cop have anything to do with the government's efforts to stop them?

does the fact that thier leaders are militants have anything to do with the government's efforts to stop them?

The black panthers' pledge is racist.

the KKK is also racist.

however, they do not create a armed mob in front of government offices.

just becuase the white guy gets treated better than the black guy does not mean the black guy was discriminated against.

to you, i say, you need to change your outlook. blacks and whites are not 'at war', nor are they natural enemies.
 
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post Mar 31 2005, 11:20 PM
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post Apr 2 2005, 09:55 AM
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yes because a few years ago he gave a family an out of court settlement for child molestation. Also why do you think him and his lawyers took sickies
 
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post Apr 2 2005, 03:35 PM
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Why would they wait so LATE to say he did this stuff though? That's the part I don't get.
 
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post Apr 3 2005, 08:49 PM
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I do, because this has already come up before. Plus he seems to be a sick, sick man.
 
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post Apr 3 2005, 09:16 PM
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that is one of the most blantantly racist thing i've heard.

'my people' ?  WTF?  do think it's blacks against whites? 

police are human.  humans make mistakes.   there have been white teenagers shot too for no apparent reason.  however, only the black ones make it into the headlines.

when have you seen a white cop beating on another white guy?  when have you seen an white cop beating on a black guy?  are white cops only beating on black guys?  or are you so racist, you refuse to see it when white cops beat up white guys.

i'll assume that 'my people' are blacks. 
and of course, that would mean that blacks get hit by tasers.  which is, of course true. 
i'll assume that 'your people' are whites.
and the queen of enland is white, so that is true.

however, white people get hit by tasers too. 
black people are princes and kings and queens too.

what you fail to understand is that statistics need to be taken in context. 

sure; more blacks are arrested, etc.  (% wise). 
however; what you fail to realize is how much context plays into stats.

there are more blacks (% wise) than whites (% wise) below the poverty line.  etc. etc.

it is not blacks that get tasered, it is poor people.

you are mistaking discrimination based upon appearance with discrimination based upon race.
four senarios:

if a black 'dude' walks up to you, with his pants quite baggy and saggying, with a doo rag, oversized shirt, 'bling', etc. with his hand in his pocket, yelling at you at get away from his car

if a white 'dude' walks up to you, with his pants quite baggy and saggying, with a doo rag, oversized shirt, 'bling', etc. with his hand in his pocket, yelling at you at get away from his car

if a black man, well dressed and shaven, walks up to you, with his hand in his pocket and yells at you to get off his car

if a white man, well dressed and shaven, walks up to you, with his hand in his pocket and yells at you to get off his car

and you have a taser
which ones are you going to taser?
about the black panthers. 

does the fact that they protested by massing, all with loaded weapons, contribute, you think, to the government's efforts to stop it?

does the fact that one of thier leaders killed a cop have anything to do with the government's efforts to stop them?

does the fact that thier leaders are militants have anything to do with the government's efforts to stop them?

The black panthers' pledge is racist.

the KKK is also racist.

however, they do not create a armed mob in front of government offices.

just becuase the white guy gets treated better than the black guy does not mean the black guy was discriminated against. 

to you, i say, you need to change your outlook.  blacks and whites are not 'at war', nor are they natural enemies.
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First off you don't know me. My views will always stay the same. Im no racist, I just witness racism. As a black man I look at things differently from you. Hell if you were black you would fill the same way. My blackness will not allow me to see things any other way. LMAO. IF all this was true then why does racial profiling exist?

Like Tupac said its all a setup. U said there r more poor black people than poor white people. Why is that? There are more white people in the U.S. but yet more Black People behind bars. Black people also get more tickets. Now thats just something I find amazing. IM NO RACIST I just know the truth hurts sometimes.
When I said your people and my people I was just being funny. You would know that if this was a actual conversation and not typed words.
This is off topic anyway.
 
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post Apr 5 2005, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(crocodilo @ Mar 30 2005, 2:38 PM)
Are you defending MJ or suggesting that his actions of pedophilia are acceptable?
I suppose you are
You agree with pedophilia you sick, perverse, retard
You may agree that molestering young chilren is right but the rest of the population who are not retarded don't agree with abnormal butt monkies like you
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Maybe your fetish for bukkake is blurring your vision.

1. You insult me on the internet? Get a life.
2. Pedophilia is disgusting, case closed.
3. I don't agree with Michael Jackson, I just think the case is shady.

Let this be a word of advice, before you talk shit on the internet, make sure you have a protected IP address. laugh.gif

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As for police brutality, here's a reality check for this entire forum...

This past week, I had to attend two funerals, one for my grandfather, and one for a distant cousin. Because of my grandfather's sudden passing I was stricken with grief but had no clue on how to handle it. I didn't cry, I didn't vent, I just dealt. When I arrived in Delaware last Tuesday, I got to my cousin's house and, as he told me, blacked out. Later on that evening, it happened again. After resting most of the next day (and a visit to the Doc) I was medicated to 'stay awake' and was sent to run an errand. On the way back home, I blacked out at the wheel, ended up (unharmed) in a ditch and was a bit shook up and disoriented. A cop had flown by, slammed on his brakes, put the car in reverse and stormed to my car. He taps on the window, I begin to open the door, he pulls me out the car, picks me up and slammed me against the door. He kept accusing me of being 'another drunk nigga' and 'another nigga doin drugs.' I took the breathalizer and, surprise, surprise, I wasn't drunk (i don't drink). This a-hole continued to put me through other sobriety tests and I passed them all. Instead of letting me go or helping me get my grandmother's car out of the ditch, he was persistent in accusing me of somehow being intoxicated. I was hit in the gut with the knightstick and knocked to my knees. I cursed at him and he roughed me up some more, cuffed me and took me in for 'resisting arrest.' Two hours later, at the precinct, in a small cell that wreaked of urine, he lets me have my phone call and cut it off at 60 seconds. Even though my grandmother came down and rose hell, no punishment came to this guy and I was let go that night. The cop was black.
 
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QUOTE(mzkandi @ Mar 25 2005, 1:26 PM)
innocent until proven guilty is what i say
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i haven't really kept up with it. but i DO know that micheal jackson is a scary kid with a lot of problems he needs to sort out, and he definately is capable of something like that.
 
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QUOTE(tmauze @ Apr 11 2005, 11:22 AM)
i haven't really kept up with it. but i DO know that micheal jackson is a scary kid with a lot of problems he needs to sort out, and he definately is capable of something like that.
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Michael does have problems... BUT that doesn't mean he did that stuff though.
 

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