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Hell kicks arse
OriskybusinessO
post Mar 19 2005, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(M1SSxCHR1SSY @ Mar 18 2005, 8:43 PM)

It doesn't matter if he is just kidding. He is bashing a religion and that's not right whether he doesn't mean it or not. If he didn't mean it then he had no reason to post such an offending statement. How can you expect someone to not take it seriously? If I were to say something about your race and how everyone like you is stupid or something like that, would you not take the slightest bit of offense to it?

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it offends me that you're trying to restrict my freedom of speech

anyway, if you feel so secure in your faith, then why should someone elses JOKE offend you so. i mean, its hardly going to shake your moral foundation to the core, is it?


exactly, it IS a joke, and if you think its not true, then why would it offend you, i know, if you were too immature to just walk away, and get on with your life. Im not saying you are immature but, what you posted is immature.

Did that make sense? Probably not wacko.gif
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 12:18 PM
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no hell would not "kick ass"
the things in the world that you named like drugs, sex, violent video games...etc.
Those are just distractions...worldly things that you'd want to do to keep you away from God....Satan made those as a distraction and also to deceive people into thinking that thats the way hell is going to be...all fun and cool. but its all a lie.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 12:21 PM
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well in that case, satan sure has a fun imagination!

he actually sounds pretty cool, to me.

and dont waste the time telling me off for this, b/c as i dont follow chrisitanity, i dont ulfill the criteria for 'heaven, so in your eyes, im going to hell. please forgive me for making the best of it.


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post Mar 19 2005, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(StanleyThePanda @ Mar 19 2005, 12:18 PM)
no hell would not "kick ass"
the things in the world that you named like drugs, sex, violent video games...etc.
Those are just distractions...worldly things that you'd want to do to keep you away from God....Satan made those as a distraction and also to deceive people into thinking that thats the way hell is going to be...all fun and cool. but its all a lie.
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Wow, then you must have a pretty boring life. "Hi my name is Shigiru Miyamoto and i made create Nintendo games because Satan told me so!" ( i think i spelled shigiru wrong, somebody fix it for me)

Oh and the sex part, didn't your so called "God" make that up? To make kids? So you are saying Satan made sex? Hmm then we should stop doing and you are saying that God is a liar.

Drugs were also supposedly made by "god" because he made everything on this earth. And drugs are made up of earthly materials arent they? So basically "God" is wrong, from your information.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 04:35 PM
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Oh and the sex part, didn't your so called "God" make that up?


you know what she meant, dont quibble at her.

anyway, he has a point. god created the first teptation in the form of the apple in the garden, so therefore its not illogical to assume that he may have had a hand in the others, is it?
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 05:39 PM
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Whoa, didn't expect this kind of response, but those crazy christians are right; i am a shallow, selfish philistine and such deviant ideas should never be expressed because thats totally not cool with god.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 07:00 PM
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i am such a bad person that i am going to go hell. but i ask for forgiveness everday! innocent.gif i don't want to go hell! tongue.gif but if i must...fallen.gif


your hell sounds fun!!! cool.gif
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 07:24 PM
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Oh and the sex part, didn't your so called "God" make that up? To make kids? So you are saying Satan made sex? Hmm then we should stop doing and you are saying that God is a liar.

Drugs were also supposedly made by "god" because he made everything on this earth. And drugs are made up of earthly materials arent they? So basically "God" is wrong, from your information.


I'd like to point out that sex, according to hopefully most Christians, is to be reserved to the one we marry. Am I saying marrying is bad? No. But it was made to prevent adultery and whatever. Sex with prostitutes, your sister, or some stranger is wrong. Sex with your married one - that's not even the point of marriage.

Drugs were, yes, "made" by God. But if we assume that because drugs are bad and created by God, so that God is bad, then we're overlooking the fact that he created this world for a purpose. What's a world without sin? Heaven. He could have done that, but God wanted humans to develop themselves - purposely throw hardships at humans so they learn. Football players don't get better if their coaches don't force them to run that extra mile.

God created sex, yes. God created everything, yes. But it's a matter of how we're using it.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 07:30 PM
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I choose to not really believe in a 'heaven' or a 'hell'.
I don't find a need to.
For this topic though, I am willing to play along-

I find that 'heaven' and 'hell' may be totally different things. As most people view it, yes? And there are all sorts of people in this world, those who commit crimes, those who are 'goody-two-shoes'.

And their views can be completely different on looking and deciding between heaven and hell. What I would believe, is that when you die, and go to 'heaven'- It becomes what you imagine it as. That would be your reward. Your greatest loves, your greatest devotions will be right beside you. And 'Hell' would probably be against you, bring out your worst fears. Tear at your soul, until you can no longer stand yourself.

So, basically, if you want what you think is cool, you would go to 'heaven'. How? I don't know. If you want to live the 'after-life' all against you, you can go to 'hell'. How? I don't know either.

It is all in what you believe. And beliefs vary from person to person. So, in all actuality, I don't think religion bashing should be taken too seriously. You can bash me all you want, I don't care.

It is just my belief, and it differs from yours.



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Oh, and about the whole 'marriage' thing-
Now-a-days, it has run so far off track. People usually marry for benefits of others, considering that 50 percent of all marriages end up in divorce.

So- what is the main purpose of 'marriage', or, what was it, in the first place?
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 08:53 PM
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I strongly agree with Christina (MissXChrissy). According to many religious beliefs about the afterlife, Hell is a place of torment and pain. It doesn't mean that Hell is where you can watch porn, do drugs, listen to rock music, ride on a Grand Theft Auto, live in a luxurious apartment and have a pleasant afterlife. It means that Hell is where you are being punished, for your bad deeds, with torment and pain, for eternity. If you are Christian, Heaven is neither an abstraction nor a physical place in the clouds, but a living, personal relationship with God. Everyone, in all races, can inherit heaven, that is, if one did good deeds on Earth. Also, God, according to the religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, hold the properties of holiness (separate from sin and incorruptible), justness (fair, right, and true in all His judgements), sovereignty (unthwartable in His will), omnipotence (all-powerful), omniscience (all-knowing), omnibenevolence (all-loving), and omnipresence (all-present). Therefore, if you are thinking that God needs to lie or sin, just think again.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 08:59 PM
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I agree with Ron.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 09:05 PM
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i agree with ____ is spam.

please your own opinions, and please back them up with facts.

this is a DEBATE forum.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Mar 19 2005, 9:05 PM)
i agree with ____  is spam.

please your own opinions, and please back them up with facts.

this is a DEBATE forum.
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cb debate is very different from NFL debate. mellow.gif
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 09:29 PM
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Intoleration of intoleration of intoleration of intoleration! Circles and circles we go, indeed!

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post Mar 19 2005, 10:17 PM
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cb debate is very different from NFL debate. 


I have a feeling that acid's going to make you support that statement with evidence... tongue.gif
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 11:57 PM
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i've just gotten quite tired of posts that merely state "i agree with ____"

i mean, you're capable of thought right?
you can state your own opinions,
you can back up thier opinions with facts.
and most people do...

but a post merely to say you agree?
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 11:58 PM
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back to the topic of hell!
 
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post Mar 20 2005, 08:57 AM
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i know, efveryones getting off topic...

OK people, we all know that if you believe in god or whatever you all know that is a 'place where you burn unhappily forever' blah blah blah... we know that strice isnt serious about there being video games and porn down there. OK... people.
 
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post Mar 20 2005, 01:35 PM
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yes, i'm sure he's just joking, but then he should have posted it in the humor forum. we are debate people, we are here to debate. debate nerds unite! *punches fist into air with super power debate ring on like in captain planet*

anyway, sure christianity bans these things, but i think the point is when you get to heaven, you get to enjoy these things as a reward for being good all your life. hell would just eternally torment you and make you do all the good things that you didn't wanna do when you were living.

i dunno, i'm not christian, ask one of them..
 
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post Mar 20 2005, 05:06 PM
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Okay, we know that drugs, UNJUSTIFIED sex, and violence is something wrong. Don't believe me? Try doing it in front of police or something.

And if we know that's wrong, then isn't it a bit obvious that .. it's not something we want to do eternally? Don't we feel guilt after taking drugs, committing adultery, and killing someone?
 
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QUOTE(CreateBlob @ Mar 20 2005, 4:06 PM)
Okay, we know that drugs, UNJUSTIFIED sex, and violence is something wrong. Don't believe me? Try doing it in front of police or something.

And if we know that's wrong, then isn't it a bit obvious that .. it's not something we want to do eternally? Don't we feel guilt after taking drugs, committing adultery, and killing someone?
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I agree with you and what you said should be common sense, but, sadly, people have a hard time distinguishing right from wrong.
 
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post Mar 21 2005, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(strice @ Mar 18 2005, 5:26 AM)
I've got a feeling that hell kicks major ass. Considering that Christians tend to ban just about everything cool, Heaven must be really quite dull. now Hell, hell has Rock music, sex, drugs, and violent video games. There is no Grand Theft Auto, there is no Red Hot Chili Peppers, there is no porn in heaven. Heres an example of what an ordinary day in hell i imagine would be. I wake up in my apartment, dress in designer clothes(designed by gay men, since they don't get to go to heaven) do a line of coke, and leave to go clubbing with stalin. After that i can go play violent video games or drink alcohol, etc. in fact, heaven sounds like one big red state in the sky; lots of white people, intolerance, and boring entertainment. now people say, "you burn in hell!" but who says thats true? god? maybe god is lying. if god is all powerful, why can't he lie? just some weird ideas.

don't take this too seriously.
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your ignorance is entertaining. obviously you said all of that to get a reaction out of everyone. and you succeeded, because half those people strongly disagree with you. im not going to get into religious bashing, and im not going to call you any names, but i will say that everyone has their own beliefs. if you want to believe that a pit of fire is entertaining, well good for you then.
 
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post Mar 22 2005, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Mar 19 2005, 9:05 PM)
i agree with ____  is spam.

please your own opinions, and please back them up with facts.

this is a DEBATE forum.
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You don't call YOUR post a spam?

Ok, you want my damn opinion?! Hell doesn't kick ass! Why should I just waste 5 minutes of my life writing something when Ron has already said it? Ok, to just float your boat, I've been taught that Hell is the last resort and Satan lives there. Satan is a moron. 1/3 of all the people in the world are Christians. I have a very gut feeling that heaven is the place to be and the devil is a dead beat. God friggin answers my prayers. I wasn't just placed in this Earth by chance. Ok, happy? You got your opinion!
 
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post Mar 22 2005, 03:17 PM
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ahahaha. this "debate" makes me chuckle. obviously the creater made this to ruffle some peoples feathers. deal with it and move on.
 
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post Mar 22 2005, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Mar 19 2005, 4:35 PM)
you know what she meant, dont quibble at her.
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teehee, quibble..
sorry. well, this was a spammy post.
 

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