Honestly, what kind of debate is this? Obviously labelling and sterotyping isn't fair, what kind of argument are we supposed to have?

It's not fair... and that's the point of this debate. (Some people think it's okay to judge other people if they're all similar, then label them.) Anywhere you have debates, this will probably be one of them.

"Go Ahead Then! Categorize me like a type of rice-a-roni! I'll still bethe San Fransico treat!"

its part of our human natures, we will always judge someone no matter how much we try to stop ourselves.

like everyone has already said, its always gonna be around. but you as a person can do the right thing and try and cut down on it. i know i do it alot, and i hate it, sometimes not even realizing it, but i'm alot more accepting to people now because i've realized labeling means shit, there really is no point in it. i've gotten labeled alot , and i still do. so i've tried to cut back. and even the weirdest gothest people can be extremely smart. and we all have problems. its just other stupid people that feel like they have to butt into other peoples business all the time and thats how labeling gets started

OriskybusinessO, did you read my reply to you?

i think he she stopped posting in here. maybe he she realizes he's she's being idiotic, and not the people he's she's stereotyping.

whoooops.

I am a she...

Ah. My fault. I apologize really. Guess the screen name reminded me of Tom Cruise.

Of course it is not fair.
No one ever said it was.

If someone comes up to you and tells you you're in....oh, say....the goth group, that's not fair to you because you didn't have a say in it.


And the pants at so-called "prep" stores are cheaper?
I think not.
Walk into Abercrombie and Fitch...are many pairs of their pants under 40 bucks?
No.

(By the way, I didn't read any of the posts prior to that, so if I'm completely in the wrong with my above statement...uhh, sorry.)

Well, maybe you weren't necessarily "wrong", but the point was that Hot Topic pants (and other things) are rather expensive per item, and that clothing price wasn't much of an argument. No one said "prep" pants were cheap. If anything, it was implied that they were far from that.

i was implying that people who shop at hot topic are not poor idiots, because they buy clothes at the same price as preppy people, therefore, must get the same amount of money.

it's in the rules that you have to read through the topic before you post, so don't even post if you didn't. don't jump to conclusions and be offensive when i'm actually arguing the same thing you are.

STOP BEING LAZY AND READ THROUGH THE TOPIC OR DON'T POST AT ALL, PEOPLE! I AM SICK OF PEOPLE NOT READING!

obviously sterotyping isn't fair

BUT EVERYONE DOES IT.

^^^ agree.

of course it's not fair. i try to talk to all ppl now matter how they're dressed or what they do. you learn some pretty amazing things about ppl.

for me i like to have fun with those sterotypes. the other day i'm dressed in all AE gear, and go into hot topic. No one expects me to shop at American Eagle and listen to Manson. and when i do go 'punk', some ppl think i have nothing intelligent to say. they don't know i'm planning to get a doctrine in art history.

so yes, because i've hung out with different ppl, and my dress style varies, i learned about other ppl. and now i love how ecclectic i've become

labels are descriptions of a person who does something to the extreme. often, labels do not work, as every person is an individual (sometimes they might not act like one, but yeah). when a person is categorized into a group, they are expected to be what the label claims them to be.

suppose there's person a, personb, and person c. person b does not know person a, so person c tells person b that person a is a (insert label here). therefore, person b already has a probably wrong idea about what sort of person person a is. labeling is just forcing unrealistic descriptions onto people..

i have just boggled myself. but hopefully, some of that made sense.

it went way too far. people judge people at first glance. a lot of people think im goth cuz i have alot of black clothes. when i go to school everyday, i can label the groups of people. theres all these little groups huddled together like all the preps together, all the skaters together, and so on. i made of map of our lunch room like in mean girls. haha.

this is such a pointless debate

obviously everyone knows sterotyping isnt fair or just but people still do it. example: look above.

Hm. I go around half the time calling myself a prep..or priss..or whatever because of the way I act a lot. (I love clothes, shopping, makeup..never leave the house for a second without looking 'pretty'..etc.) But I do it jokingly. As if I was labeling someone else.

This makes me think of the problems that arose inthe 60's with the "long haired hippies who obviously did drugs and had sex with everyone" o_o'

People look at it in a bad way because they want to be individual from everyone else. They dont want to be put in a 'group' of other people, and assumed how they are just by how they look/talk. True, that's very unfair. All it is is a person's style showing. Nowadays we live in a society that at least partly accepts that people are different, and lets them be themselves a bit more. But our nature still needs to point out "Oh look, that person is different from me" so they still get shoved in a group.

But, if you wanna look at like that..in some ways isnt 'female' and 'male' being labeled? o.O We have different body parts and look different, so we automatically put a label on those differences. And with that label, everyone puts a stereotypical personality on that person. So, really..it's the same as labeling someone for their clothes or they habits. Let people be themselves. Dont 'judge' them by it. And that goes the same for those who have been labeled and dislike it. Let the people who labeled you label you. What does it really matter to you? You're getting ot be yourself, which is wat matters. So enjoy it and be proud that someone 'notices' how unique you are. ^_^

stereotyping is all around us whether its race, religion. or status. SAME WITH THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AS WELL. I remember when I used to wear my hair in cornrows the white people used to think i was a thug so they would get scared of me. I would walk in stores and they would move aside. I thought that sh*t was funny. If I wouldn't have applied for my job(WHERE PEOPLE STEREOTYPE ALL THE TIME) then I would of kept those Braids just to scare people.

No its not fair..

When you call someone a prep your giving them a name that says who they are.

I mean if someone refured to you as a prep because you wear.. a skirt.. that really isn't fair.

Not to menchon it puts a limit on who you are, you might be a prep or fall into that catigory but you like punk rock music..? So why should one of your charicteristics get labeled and the others not?

^ mention* not menchon.

and because people are stupid? i hate it when people generalize others by the clothes they wear..

my mom is so guilty of it. she almost wouldn't let me buy my black converse cause she was afraid i was gonna wear all black all the time just cause i wanted some shoes that went with everything. cause ya know, people who wear black are baaaad..

my mom judges a lot of people and i told her i dont like it. i think judging people is fair but only when its kept to yourself. i mean everyone does it its just the matter of not hurting people around you. its totally fine if you judge somebody but keep it to your self cause if you judge someone else they have the same ability to do to you because you also are not perfect.

if judging was bad then you would be limiting someones mind from thinking things.

Labelling is part of human nature. I'm not saying it's right - How many times do I want to hurt someone for telling me who I am?! - but you can't stop it. For people to be truely open, it'll take a lot more than what most people are willing to give.

Okay, I don't feel like going into a lot of depth right now, so let me just say that I definately don't find it fair, but it is human nature and so there is only so much we can do about. It would be great if no one judged or stereotyped though.

labeling is dumb to me.

completly dumb. so are sterotypes.

you dont know who a person is just by looking at them. i hate it when people look at me and pass all of these stupid judgements. people dont truly know who you are until they get to know you.