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swearing God's name in vain, should it be banned from public schools?
Spirited Away
post Feb 24 2005, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(angel-roh @ Feb 24 2005, 4:36 PM)

But still, even they mention the word "god" or "God"
it still sounds the same, so I think it should be
banned even though they think god as thunder god or the zeus...

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Get the word copyrighted then, SHEEESSSSH.

It will never be banned... GET OVER IT.
 
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post Feb 24 2005, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(angel-roh @ Feb 24 2005, 1:17 PM)

Yeah same here.
I think it should be banned.
I mean I'm very religious.
My heart is full of Christianity and
when I hear someone using God's name in vain.
I do not like it. I hear a lot of createblog members
using God's name in vain. Yeah I ignore it, but
it's sickening. And neither I do not want to quit
CB... whenever I look at it, I just sing "Our God
is an awesome God" you know that song, yeahh...
So yeah I think it should be banned from our school.
Because I know that half of our school students are
most likely Christianity hehe...
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It just doesn't make sense to me...how is it SICKENING? It's not like they're going up to you and saying "The God that Susan believes in is a bit fat hunk of lard, useless piece of crap." (just an example)

Just how is someone saying something that is NOT offensive to THEM and a whole lot of people something that should be banned? The thing about swearing God's name in vain is that it isn't like racism or sexism, that it's a form of discrimination and that you're insulting and putting down what they believe in or who they are, but this is just a matter of religious rules and conduct.

Since swearing God's name in vain is only a sin if you're religious, then why would it be considered hate or offensiveness if someone nonreligious said it? The person saying it is merely saying something that, if that person were to be religious, would be a sin to them and only them. The person swearing God's name will NOT affect you, will NOT affect the religious person. This is the same with same sex marriages: if two people are doing something that is sinful, why are you so against it? They't not affecting you or ruining your good terms with God and chances to get into heaven. Why do you have to make such a big deal out of it?

The other thing that gets me is, if swearing God's name in vain should be banned, then why not swearing in general? It's ridiculous to ban something that offends only one part of a population, the religious people, and not everyone else, when there is something else out there that is offensive to EVERYONE. It's a preposterous idea to ban swearing in general, and even a more preposterous idea to ban swearing God's name in vain, because it's not even offensive to the whole general public.
 
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post Feb 24 2005, 11:13 PM
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oh my f**king god! oh my effing god! oh my god!

it doesnt rly bother me becuz i am not of that religion so i could care less. mellow.gif

ever heard of seperation of chuirch and state?
they can't make laws based on religion
 
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post Feb 24 2005, 11:33 PM
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this isnt really an argument, but i find it funny sometimes how non-religious/atheist/agnostic people will say things like "oh my god." it just seems contradictary..

really though, when people say "oh my god," they dont really mean God. its just an expression. "God" in that phrase has lost any actual meaning.

but then, when you think about it, you're saying "MY god"; and there is more than one religion, am i right? you're not saying the word as a name... you're really saying "oh my deity/higher power." and even if you do mean God (note capitalization), you arent really saying his name.
 
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QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Feb 20 2005, 2:51 PM)
jewish people believe in god.......
the only people that don't believe in a god, if i'm correct, are atheists..please know what you're talking about before you talk.
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actually there are some religions that dont believe in any gods.

(sorry for double post)
 
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post Feb 24 2005, 11:48 PM
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I believe, that even if we did ban it people would still stay it, heck they'd prolly say it more. At the schools i've been to some class mates refer to others and N***ers, Tell me that ain't right, I believe the schools have bigger problems then students saying Oh My God.
But that's just me
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post Feb 24 2005, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE([2]Nekked @ Feb 24 2005, 9:33 PM)
this isnt really an argument, but i find it funny sometimes how non-religious/atheist/agnostic people will say things like "oh my god." it just seems contradictary..
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I have friends that claim they're atheist and still celebrate Christmas *contradictary*
 
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post Feb 25 2005, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(potmonkeyjd @ Feb 24 2005, 11:51 PM)
I have friends that claim they're atheist and still celebrate Christmas *contradictary*
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Celebrating Christmas for the sake of celebration IS NOT contradictory. How can it be?
 
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post Feb 25 2005, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE(potmonkeyjd @ Feb 24 2005, 8:51 PM)
I have friends that claim they're atheist and still celebrate Christmas *contradictary*
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Well...Christmas really has long lost all its religious meaning, now it's just one big marketing event of the year.
 
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post Feb 25 2005, 02:06 AM
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I still feel that Christmas and Easter are about God and Jesus, and If you say your Athiest and Celebrate because of the presents and treats you get your being a hippacrite *SP* sworry
 
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post Feb 25 2005, 02:37 AM
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^ No you're not. Not if you view Christmas as a commercial holiday, one in which you recieve presents. If you view Christmas as such, you aren't a hypocrite for being atheist, because then you'd think Christmas, to you, has nothing to do with God. Atheists don't even believe in God, therefore Christmas is not about God, therefore they are not hypocrites.

People who are religious and only celebrate Christmas for the gifts are hypocrties.
 
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post Feb 25 2005, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(potmonkeyjd @ Feb 25 2005, 2:06 AM)
I still feel that Christmas and Easter are about God and Jesus, and If you say your Athiest and Celebrate because of the presents and treats you get your being a hippacrite *SP* sworry
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Go kill yourself now. I don't see how some Christians could live with such condemnation towards others and say that their job is to spread God's love. You want pure hypocrisy? I just provided the example.

If you want to learn more about the ORIGINS of Christmas or debate about it, please refer to the thread titled "you can't have it both ways!!!!".

Though, I don't see how one could argue against facts of history.
 
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post Feb 25 2005, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Feb 22 2005, 8:35 PM)
Well, there may be a God for different religions, but even though they are called by the same name, it doesn't mean that they're the same in nature.
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Actually, no, the 'God of the Christians' and the 'God of the Jews' really are the same God. Jesus was Jewish, and supposedly came from the God of the Jews. Its the same God, just celebrated differently.
 
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post Feb 25 2005, 04:55 PM
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well, jews don't believe jesus is their savior so..it may be different. i can't be sure though, i haven't attended enough temple services to know for sure.
 
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QUOTE(Azn Kid from NY @ Feb 12 2005, 5:46 PM)
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f**k it....not tryin to argue about god again...
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then dont argue about GOD. dont leave a foul comment too. stubborn.gif
 
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QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Feb 25 2005, 4:55 PM)
well, jews don't believe jesus is their savior so..it may be different. i can't be sure though, i haven't attended enough temple services to know for sure.
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theyre both monotheistic, which is almost a similarity enough, but Christianity branched off Judaism. Jesus was Jewish, and so it only makes sense for Christians and Jews to believe in the same God. while Christians also believe in God as the trinity- father, son, and holy spirit, its still the same thing. is this making sense?
 
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QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Feb 25 2005, 7:59 AM)
Actually, no, the 'God of the Christians' and the 'God of the Jews' really are the same God. Jesus was Jewish, and supposedly came from the God of the Jews. Its the same God, just celebrated differently.
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I wasn't referring to only Jews and Christians. There are more than two religions that believe in God, you know.
 
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post Feb 28 2005, 04:30 PM
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this isn't my opinion, this is written clearly in black and white in the constitution, first amendment:

FREEDOM OF SPEECH

meaning that people can say OMG however many times they want to. if a teacher forbids you from saying it, then they are doing something unconstitutional.
 
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post Feb 28 2005, 05:15 PM
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theyre both monotheistic, which is almost a similarity enough, but Christianity branched off Judaism. Jesus was Jewish, and so it only makes sense for Christians and Jews to believe in the same God. while Christians also believe in God as the trinity- father, son, and holy spirit, its still the same thing. is this making sense?


Jews and Christians worship the same god

Christians believe that theGOd has sent a svior already, i.e Jesus. where as jews are still waiting
but they both worsship the GOd the old teastament
 
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post Feb 28 2005, 05:22 PM
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meh, i'll get back to you during senior, when i'm taking IB world religions. wink.gif
 
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QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Feb 28 2005, 5:15 PM)
Jews and Christians worship the same god

Christians believe that theGOd has sent a svior already, i.e Jesus. where as jews are still waiting
but they both worsship the GOd the old teastament
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yes, im aware
 
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post Feb 28 2005, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Feb 28 2005, 6:15 PM)
Jews and Christians worship the same god

Christians believe that theGOd has sent a svior already, i.e Jesus. where as jews are still waiting
but they both worsship the GOd the old teastament
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im confused, will someone please tell me that if jews and christians worship the same god, why do you have to kill each other and fight so many wars against each other? correct me if im wrong, cuz im atheist nd dont no much about religion, but isnt one of the ten commandments "thou shalt not kill", yet christians and jews kill each other?
 
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QUOTE(f4113n @ Feb 28 2005, 8:38 PM)
im confused, will someone please tell me that if jews and christians worship the same god, why do you have to kill each other and fight so many wars against each other? correct me if im wrong, cuz im atheist nd dont no much about religion, but isnt one of the ten commandments "thou shalt not kill", yet christians and jews kill each other?
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they felt that they were killing to uphold the glory of God.
and as the model united nations dork stated, Christians believe that Jesus Christ's resurrection brought the world salvation. however, the Jews scorned Jesus and claim that they are still waiting the "The Messiah."
 
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and as the model united nations dork stated, Christians believe that Jesus Christ's resurrection brought the world salvation. however, the Jews scorned Jesus and claim that they are still waiting the "The Messiah."


is that me... lol

i am a dork. i've come to terms with it

but yes, they worship the same God, but have different ideas on whether or not certain prophecies have been fulfilled
 
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all right, i haven't came to this debate in a while, but yall convinced me manz..


it's really impossible trying to ban it. try making a new years resolution to try your best to avoid swearing God's name in vain. yep; it's hard. Took me lots of months too.

you can keep this debate going if you want to, but these r my points when i wanted it to be banned:

- School promises ur kid is gonna be safe. They promise to try their best to make sure nobody is offended b/c of their race/religion.

I'm sure you're asking: There isn't that many Evangilistic children, so why ban it? There isn't that many Amish and they got their deal on not letting their children go to school b/c it's against their religion.

as i said b4, im convinced that it's impossible for it to be banned.
 

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