its not a sin if you dont believe in any god.

It shouldnt be banned, because... you cant please all the religions, even if christianity is the magority, if you please them, what about the minorities?

and the pledge issue, i think they should get rid of it.

no..not everyone is christian. not everyone believes in the same thing.

jewish people believe in god.......
the only people that don't believe in a god, if i'm correct, are atheists..please know what you're talking about before you talk.

^^ i read that too... but im not sure thats exactly what they meant... i think what was meant was Jewish people and people who dont believe in God, with out the other...

surely noone could be that dense?

oh..well hopefully that's what they meant then. otherwise.....

and ya never know, most people here didn't know what a bar/bat mitzvah was.

and why are you not on msn?

i don't think it's good, but i don't think it should be banned.

i do know what i'm talking about. when under god was put into the pledge, it was directed towards the Christians' god. THATS what i meant.

^Woah. Wait...isn't the Jewish G-d and the Christian G-d the same thing except we believe in Him differently? That is very rude saying that it was put towards the Christian G-d and highly offensive


^I had mine 2 years ago! :D

^

Well, there may be a God for different religions, but even though they are called by the same name, it doesn't mean that they're the same in nature.

And besides, even if the pledge refers to ALL religions' Gods, it's still offensive to those who don't believe in God.

exactly, when I say the pledge, I don't say that part because it is offensive to me since I don't believe in god..but in replying to the topic, I don't think it CAN be banned because not everyone is christian obviously, so it doesn't offend those who aren't. Personally, I think the pledge shouldn't be banned, just revised to say: one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all: now, was that hard to say?

If its a public school, then it shouldn't be banned because public schools do not sway people to a certain religion,I think...Even if 90% of the school was public, they can't ban saying a word because they could just be saying oh my god, and not actually refer to God.

Uh, so you just offended me for saying that your God is the only God, does this mean that you have no right to claim that anymore? After all, if I offend you by saying "Oh my God" so I should stop, shouldn't you stop claiming that your God is the only God because you're offending me?

Both sides are being offensive here, so what gives you more right to continue offending me and I should have no right to offend you?

but how is it offensive? so what if you dont believe in God? i dont believe in reincarnation (random example) but i dont mind talking about it on a daily basis. the pledge isnt propoganda- its not some clever guise to brainwash people into believing in God. and as many people have pointed out, more than just Christians believe in God. why would we bother revising it? can we not let tradition stand? you cant please everyone, so how about instead of revising everything to fit the needs of people who have to have everything just to their liking, we let it stand

^^ Well, if we should let tradition stand, we shouldn't have bother to add "under God" to the pledge in the first place.


But I agree that Christians aren't the only ones who believe in God and that it doesn't make sense to try to please everyone.

First of all...at my school sommmeee teachers give you detentions for profanity anyway. So it's like agianst the rules anyway..but you can't stop it. Even if its banned people will still say it...

But like uninspired fae said...its the my...It's not like your bashing anyone's religion at all..

it was added in after originally written?


last year i heard all but one of my teachers curse, so i havent seen anyone but ms parris bother to give detention for profanity anyway [/irrelevent]

The pledge was first written in 1892 as "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

In 1924 "my flag" changed to 'the Flag of the United States of America'.

President Eisenhower supported the addition of "under God" after he was preached to by Rev. George Docherty.


The writer of the Pledge resented the first change. His surviving granddaughter at the time said that he would have resented the second change as well.

But to answer your question in full, yes it was added after it was written and also after the death of its author.

oh, i never realized that

I heard somewhere that the only reason they put "God" in the pledge is because it would make the U.S seem like the good guys because if you have "God" on your side, then you would be good. Well, I only heard this, so whatever.

Ya thats true. During the 1950's (Cold War), everybody was afraid of the "Communists" (China and Russia), so they added the pledge. Thank God for Nixon for going to China.

not really hardcore religous...god....is just another expression to give something intensity when using it ....for the wrong reasons

Yeah same here.
I think it should be banned.
I mean I'm very religious.
My heart is full of Christianity and
when I hear someone using God's name in vain.
I do not like it. I hear a lot of createblog members
using God's name in vain. Yeah I ignore it, but
it's sickening. And neither I do not want to quit
CB... whenever I look at it, I just sing "Our God
is an awesome God" you know that song, yeahh...
So yeah I think it should be banned from our school.
Because I know that half of our school students are
most likely Christianity hehe...
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^^

but maybe there not talking about the same god. when i say oh my god, im alking about thor, the thunder god. he's my patron deity, and im talking about him. it has nothing whatever to do with the christian religion at all

But still, even they mention the word "god" or "God"
it still sounds the same, so I think it should be
banned even though they think god as thunder god or the zeus...

^^

why hough? if someone really believes in something like that, surely its helty that thats the first thing that comes out when somethig startles them, like they are turning for help or w/e