halo 2, stuff Options

[indykid845]

iz there ne one else who CANNOT wait 4 halo 2 to come out?!
(lemme kno if this topic has already been discussed)

[ZXCVBNMASDF]

hehe..halo 2 rules

[*Expresseggroll*]

Lol. Gonna big the biggest First person shooter. That game is CrAzY

[Saeglopur]

What's so great about halo?

moved.

[DaTru KataLYST]

What's so great about halo?

moved.

It was the game that saved console gaming.

[Saeglopur]

It was the game that saved console gaming.

So...? What's so great about it... That's what I asked.

[mechwarrior1989]

So...? What's so great about it... That's what I asked.

Nothing really, it's just awesome. Come to think of it, it's basically like any other FPS except it's just so much more awesome. I'm not sure why, but it's a great game, especially the multiplayer, in the single player the maps were too repetative, but they said they have addressed this in Halo 2 so it'll be better. Plus there's double wielding, the energy swords, destrucable vehicles, kicking people off vehicles and so forth. It also has more paths to finish each level and some you can get by without ever firing your weapon. It sort of combines everything good you find in other FPS's into one uber awesome one.

[DaTru KataLYST]

So...? What's so great about it... That's what I asked.

and I said it was the game that saved console gaming. What did I not answer?

Do you just need me to clarify?

Greatness:
- Just like how Half-Life revolutionized PC gaming, that's what Halo did for console FPS.
- Graphics were awesome
- The human and alien weapons were balanced, (excluding the Needler) and each had its nifty secondary weapons.
- The vehicles you could control were just so amazing.
- Co-op ability
- Legendary mode
- Multiplayer games make my parties more fun.
- Crushing people with a warthog.
- 4 Xboxes + 4 TVs + 16 controllers + 16 players = FunFunFun

[wayne]

halo is the best fps shooter.. hands down.. no other game had as much hype on a console (well any first person shooter at least). halo saved xbox, and the console industry itself. after halo came out... fans went crazy for more first person shooter... hoping that a better game would come out to fulfil thier gaming needs... but no other fps shooter can match halo.. its just.. impossible..

[ZXCVBNMASDF]

halo is the best fps shooter.. hands down.. no other game had as much hype on a console (well any first person shooter at least). halo saved xbox, and the console industry itself. after halo came out... fans went crazy for more first person shooter... hoping that a better game would come out to fulfil thier gaming needs... but no other fps shooter can match halo.. its just.. impossible..

agree with that one

[BigPappaSmurf]

Halo is so awesom I have the first one on my other comp. and like the desktop is full of all kinds of mods and stuff its crazy.

[goofipinay]

i love halo! its awesome

and i agree wit wayne

[ThunderEvermore]

It was the game that saved console gaming.

What?

How do you figure?

halo is the best fps shooter.. hands down.. no other game had as much hype on a console (well any first person shooter at least). halo saved xbox, and the console industry itself. after halo came out... fans went crazy for more first person shooter... hoping that a better game would come out to fulfil thier gaming needs... but no other fps shooter can match halo.. its just.. impossible..

First, its FPS, not FPS shooter, thats redundant.

Second, its not the best shooter. Yes, it was the most hyped Xbox game, but thats all it was, hype.

It didnt save Xbox. Xbox is losing billions of dollars for Microsoft.

Halo is not a marker of two eras in gaming, fans were just as hardcore as they were before, theres just alot more nubs talking about how Halo is the best game ever.

No other FPS? Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, those are the best FPSes from console gaming..ever. Now those, THOSE marked eras. Goldeneye brought FPSes to console gaming. Perfect Dark enhanced the incredible qualities of GE gaming while putting a bit more, and some better stuff into it.

Halo didnt 'save' console gaming, console gaming wasnt in danger.

Greatness:
- Just like how Half-Life revolutionized PC gaming, that's what Halo did for console FPS.
- Graphics were awesome
- The human and alien weapons were balanced, (excluding the Needler) and each had its nifty secondary weapons.
- The vehicles you could control were just so amazing.
- Co-op ability
- Legendary mode
- Multiplayer games make my parties more fun.
- Crushing people with a warthog.
- 4 Xboxes + 4 TVs + 16 controllers + 16 players = FunFunFun

1) How did Halo revolutionize anything?
2) Graphics were good, but they were on an XBox, which has great graphics overall anyway.
3) Yeah, because its real easy to see how having a Rocket Launcher is just as good as having a Shotgun. Ok.
4) Vehicles werent great. I liked the Ghost, and thats about it.
5) Co Op isnt exactly a new thing.
6) Legendary=Very Hard, right? Alot of games have that.
7)16 player games, meh, not my bag. Nothing compares to 4 player Goldeneye.

What's so great about halo?

My thoughts exactly.

[metabolic666]

halo is the best fps shooter.. hands down.. no other game had as much hype on a console (well any first person shooter at least). halo saved xbox, and the console industry itself. after halo came out... fans went crazy for more first person shooter... hoping that a better game would come out to fulfil thier gaming needs... but no other fps shooter can match halo.. its just.. impossible..

Yup YUp its gonna be bad ass ;D

[*kryogenix*]

Halo 2 is a good game, but I think the first person shooter genre is best reserved for the PC. It's a good game, but its quality is blown way out of proportion. Well, compared to most other Xbox games, it's a great game, but using other FPS's as a benchmark, it's not that great (Half-life was more ground breaking).

[Mr. Psychotic]

Halo 2 is a good game, but I think the first person shooter genre is best reserved for the PC. It's a good game, but its quality is blown way out of proportion. Well, compared to most other Xbox games, it's a great game, but using other FPS's as a benchmark, it's not that great (Half-life was more ground breaking).

YES! Half-life was better in the FPS genre.
Halo to me is just another game to waste time.

[DaTru KataLYST]

I see that you people who aren't so fond of Halo are questioning it. Fine, don't heed my word, but atleast take notice to the professional gaming companies that rave on it. I don't understand how it is too hyped. It's hyped because it's a good game. I would think a game that gets elite scores from every gaming review company would be hyped.

Maybe it's because I'm just a casual gamer, I don't look to critisize every game I encounter. You won't see me refuting that Goldeneye or Half-life wasn't one of the best or maybe the best. I just express how I feel. I've never researched these gaming statistics, like MS is losing billions from xbox and such, but I would think w/o Halo, MS would have scrapped the entire Xbox project.

To me, Halo was balanced in gameplay, and add on what every gaming company says, it's a good, fine, kick ass game. And I'm more inclined to believe professional critics than the likes of people like you guys or me - just amateurs.

You compared 4player Goldeneye to 16 player Halo....um....

If MS is losing billions, why are they bothering making Xbox2? Actually, why don't you cite your source so I can believe it, please.

[*kryogenix*]

I see that you people who aren't so fond of Halo are questioning it. Fine, don't heed my word, but atleast take notice to the professional gaming companies that rave on it. I don't understand how it is too hyped. It's hyped because it's a good game. I would think a game that gets elite scores from every gaming review company would be hyped.

Maybe it's because I'm just a casual gamer, I don't look to critisize every game I encounter. You won't see me refuting that Goldeneye or Half-life wasn't one of the best or maybe the best. I just express how I feel. I've never researched these gaming statistics, like MS is losing billions from xbox and such, but I would think w/o Halo, MS would have scrapped the entire Xbox project.

It's that halo gets too much credit. Way too much. Yes, Halo is what saved the xbox, so what? It's another FPS with a futuristic theme. People should get over it. The new Unreal Tournament is pretty much the same to me, but it doesn't get as much hype as Halo 2.

To me, Halo was balanced in gameplay, and add on what every gaming company says, it's a good, fine, kick ass game. And I'm more inclined to believe professional critics than the likes of people like you guys or me - just amateurs.

Sources? Amateur just means you don't get paid or refuses to be paid. Amateur does not tell you how skilled someone is. An amateur golfer beat Tiger Woods. Have you ever heard the phrase, the customer is always right? To the producing company, customer feedback is gold. Unlike magazines, the average gamers aren't paid millions in ad sales by different companies, therefore, they're less likely to be biased. There's a videogame store nearby which I believe is paid by microsoft, because all of their uniforms and hats say xbox, and they refer to the store as Xbox headquarters. Whenever I try to buy something, they always tell me the xbox is better, or the xbox version of the game is better. I listen to gamers like me, for their opinions, not some company that's being paid millions to advertise a product.

You compared 4player Goldeneye to 16 player Halo....um....

That was pretty good for it's time. Remember, this is the n64. What was that, like 90 mhz? You can only do 4 player on a single xbox, albeit it has better graphics, but still, you can't get 16 player without Live. To me, Half Life was ahead of its time. Graphics were good, compared to the rest of the stuff that came out, gameplay was fun and multiplayer was really fun. Why do you think people still play counterstrike today?

If MS is losing billions, why are they bothering making Xbox2? Actually, why don't you cite your source so I can believe it, please.

The same reason why they made the Y controller or whatever that smaller controller is called. They realized they messed up, so they have to make a better product to stay competitive. Yes they are losing billions, but still making a profit. That's because people are using modchips to pirate the games, which hurts the developers the most, but has it's toll on micro$oft's revenue.

I used google to find this. Took me: Results 1 - 10 of about 774 for microsoft losing billions on xbox sales. (0.30 seconds).

http://www.techspot.com/story4163.html

Oh yeah, check this out. No Xbox 2 in 2k5.

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Aug/...40802026277.htm

[CloudUnionX]

Im going up to gamestop tonight to get it, I have it reserved and fully paid for so I will be in the vip line, plus I get the special eddition.

Most gamestops are having a "party" around 9pm-1am. The gamestop by me is having a bbq, and a halo 1 tournament, plus their handing out goodies.

[DaTru KataLYST]

valid points kryo, but as halo2 is coming out tonight, I shant continue this heated discussion. So consider yourself the victor. =]


My bro and I are going to Gamestop for the halo2 party also! Kewl!

[MeanBastard]

halo is the best fps shooter.. hands down.. no other game had as much hype on a console (well any first person shooter at least). halo saved xbox, and the console industry itself. after halo came out... fans went crazy for more first person shooter... hoping that a better game would come out to fulfil thier gaming needs... but no other fps shooter can match halo.. its just.. impossible..

I give you....... EXAGGERATION AWARD!!!!!

[sm0kinm0nky]

i uesd to play halo 1 so much on pc and xbox. haha hopefully i can get my hands on halo2, the nearest gamestop by me is the one at the mall. and its gona be soldout very quick

[ThunderEvermore]

I see that you people who aren't so fond of Halo are questioning it. Fine, don't heed my word, but atleast take notice to the professional gaming companies that rave on it. I don't understand how it is too hyped. It's hyped because it's a good game. I would think a game that gets elite scores from every gaming review company would be hyped.

Maybe it's because I'm just a casual gamer, I don't look to critisize every game I encounter. You won't see me refuting that Goldeneye or Half-life wasn't one of the best or maybe the best. I just express how I feel. I've never researched these gaming statistics, like MS is losing billions from xbox and such, but I would think w/o Halo, MS would have scrapped the entire Xbox project.

To me, Halo was balanced in gameplay, and add on what every gaming company says, it's a good, fine, kick ass game. And I'm more inclined to believe professional critics than the likes of people like you guys or me - just amateurs.

You compared 4player Goldeneye to 16 player Halo....um....

If MS is losing billions, why are they bothering making Xbox2? Actually, why don't you cite your source so I can believe it, please.

Excuse me for my delayed response.

1) Gaming reviews are based upon the opinion of the person, which can be biased and mislead. Granted, as can mine, but I guarantee I can come up with compelling evidence towards the crappiness of Halo that cant be disproven by any more than "hal0 r0x0rs".

2) We all critique every game we come across, we have to, we like a game when we like it, we dont when we dont, its a critique every time. I didnt like Halo, it bored me, both single and multiplayer. I found it to have many flaws, and excuse me if I grew up on Goldeneye, but its quite a thing to measure up to.

3) Yes I compared 4 player GE to 16 player Halo, I find GE to still be > Halo.

4) Why would they bother? Its Microsoft! One, they never admit defeat, two, they can afford it. With Windows being practically the only OS out there for PC users its fairly easy for them to make up that kind of money.

5)

Profits from the Xbox? Not in this lifetime. The Xbox Division, which is part of the Home and Entertainment Division of the company, consistently posts losses each quarter. Consistently over $100 million each quarter lost in the Home and Entertainment Division fiscals have been seen for the past year, with the Xbox making up a huge part of those losses.

Microsoft's first fiscal quarter (July 1 to September 30)SEC filing shows that the Home and Entertainment Division lost $273 million dollars between July 2003 and September 2003, despite an increase of revenue by $96 million over the same quarter the previous year (IE the Home and Entertainment Division brought in $96 million more than the previous year's same fiscal quarter, but ended up losing $28 million more than the previous year's same fiscal quarter's loss of $245 million). And Microsoft's most current SEC filing shows a loss of $241 million in the Home and Entertainment Division for the final calendar quarter of 2003. For this quarter, though, Microsoft actually managed to lose less money than the same fiscal quarter a year before.

Since the Xbox launched, the Home and Entertainment Division has seen financial losses approaching $1 billion per year. The losses are $880 million and $990 million per fiscal year, respectively. Add in the $273 million lost in Microsoft's fiscal Q1 (calendar Q3), and $241 million lost in fiscal Q2 (calendar Q4) and we get $2.384 billion lost since the launch of the Xbox.

Source

[mechwarrior1989]

Technically, Halo was not "overhyped" since there was very little hype when it was released. It became known through word of mouth. Very few games can claim this, even EGM has stated this, well the former of my statements. Because Halo 2 has not been released quite yet, 2 hours and 13 minutes more for me, you cannot yet state that it was overhyped unless you have already played it and know for a fact that it is a let down, and it won't be, but that's just my opinion.


And to stop any argument, when Xbox was first launched, microsoft lost money on every concil (yes i know that's not spelt right) that was sold, they were to make up losses in the hardware through money made in the software. This was microsofts marketing strategy in an attempt to undercut Gamecube and PS2, dont' ask me for sources because I long forgot them. Whether they lose money now is debatable since things like a 733mhz Celeron processor, 64mb ram and custom gforce graphics chipset would probably be very cheap plus other things such as the dvd-rom drive and harddrive are all very cheap and really not worth mentioning.

Also I might add, Microsoft has a lot of money sitting in banks, they can afford to lose some money in order to carve out a market segment for itself. Xbox is merely a test subject, hardly perfect. It was a pioneer which microsoft hoped that it would help to carve out enough of the market that it would warrent an Xbox 2 and then even more systems to come. It is all longer term thinking on microsoft's part which is very smart if I might say so myself.

[DaTru KataLYST]

ok thunder,


You win too! But I still get to play halo 2!



So I win too!