rap/r&b the new pop, what do u think |
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 Jul 13 2004, 04:48 PM
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i was watching bet news one night, and this guy said that rap/r&b is the new pop. it's kinda true, and i hate it. i think i first noticed it when lil' jhon came out. he markets his music as "krunk" - whole new genre - but i still say it's rap. and it's not very good rap in my opinion. but people like usher are suddenly gettin hours of airtime on mtv. that's new. so...what do you think? is rap/r&b the new pop.
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Jul 13 2004, 05:53 PM
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 WUT THA DUCK? Group: Member Posts: 3,950 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,138 |
hmm... maybe sooo? i dont hear alot of pop... juss rock, R&B,and rap!!! but lil jon is sooo not crunk!! i dont see him rapping!!!! he doesnt count!!
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Jul 13 2004, 06:11 PM
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 (0.x)o-(^.^q) take that Group: Member Posts: 125 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,827 |
defenatly R&B and hip hop not rap are the new pop. Rap is different than hip hop. And for Lil Jon the only reason why he probebly say Yeahhhyaayah is because he got raped at a Jail and he was screaming Yeahhhyaaayah and OKKkk when it happened. Now all the tym he has flashbacks he screams out Yeahhhyaaayah. I don't really like Lil Jon he's fake.
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Jul 13 2004, 06:15 PM
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 pixel hybrid Group: Member Posts: 6,410 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,081 |
Pop singers have R&B & Hiphop influences. Yup.. that's pop culture.
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Jul 13 2004, 09:13 PM
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 oh sweet pestilence Group: Member Posts: 2,251 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,876 |
I've noticed a lot of r&b and rap getting a ton of airtime on mtv too. Argf. I cannot stand r&b and rap.
 but that's just me. And i don't watch mtv that much anymore because of this....What can i say, im a metalhead. haha.
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Jul 13 2004, 09:23 PM
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 Look its... Group: Official Member Posts: 5,817 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,767 |
it could be
but i dont want to say its the new pop. i always liked r& b |
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Jul 13 2004, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(XxtremeRickyX @ Jul 13 2004, 6:11 PM) defenatly R&B and hip hop not rap are the new pop. Rap is different than hip hop. And for Lil Jon the only reason why he probebly say Yeahhhyaayah is because he got raped at a Jail and he was screaming Yeahhhyaaayah and OKKkk when it happened. Now all the tym he has flashbacks he screams out Yeahhhyaaayah. I don't really like Lil Jon he's fake. Rap is diff from hip-hop, but I'm asking if both Rap and R&B are the new pop. |
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Jul 14 2004, 12:04 AM
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 <3 Group: Member Posts: 188 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,801 |
im kinda not sure, but i dont see pop bring played on mtv a lot these days either. all i see is rap and r&b.
i remember a time when britney spears was on mtv like 24/7, and all i heard was pop. pop is still pop but maybe r&b and rap is taking a turn and is gonna be the new pop....who knows...only time could tell |
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Jul 14 2004, 01:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 664 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,686 |
QUOTE(RandomHero @ Jul 13 2004, 9:13 PM) I've noticed a lot of r&b and rap getting a ton of airtime on mtv too. Argf. I cannot stand r&b and rap. but that's just me. And i don't watch mtv that much anymore because of this....What can i say, im a metalhead. haha.same here!!!! i watch MTV2's headbangers ball anytime its on |
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Jul 14 2004, 02:49 PM
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 Lyrical Genius: Watch 4 AND!!! Group: Member Posts: 574 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,616 |
actually listen to good rap....... most of the good rap isn't on MTV
most of the stuff that MTV sits all over is some corny MC's who can't spit... other than Hov and Em, EVERYONE including 50, Lil Jon, 90% of the stuff that comes outta the south, and anything that really gets a lotta play is some untalented ass muh'f***as.... none of 'em actually know how to use the art of rhyming |
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Jul 14 2004, 04:43 PM
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not sure.... maybe we never know where it'll lead
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Jul 14 2004, 06:11 PM
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 LunchboxXx Group: Member Posts: 1,789 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,810 |
rap has always been pop.
pop is short for popular. you shouldn't be able to make somthing sound popular. the only way somthing should be popular is if people like it and not a genre of music. |
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Jul 14 2004, 11:55 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 205 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 24,755 |
^ true
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Jul 15 2004, 12:15 AM
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Brie Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 10,172 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,548 |
QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 14 2004, 6:11 PM) rap has always been pop. pop is short for popular. you shouldn't be able to make somthing sound popular. the only way somthing should be popular is if people like it and not a genre of music. Yeah. Very true. I was just gunna say something like that. |
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Jul 15 2004, 01:55 AM
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Lyrical Genius: Watch 4 AND!!! Group: Member Posts: 574 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,616 |
QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 14 2004, 6:11 PM) rap has always been pop. pop is short for popular. you shouldn't be able to make somthing sound popular. the only way somthing should be popular is if people like it and not a genre of music. as I said though, real hip hop artist aren't famous.... the rappers that are big are basically puppets of the industry that make songs for the people to want to buy more than make music that they truly feel... wit the exception of Em and Jay, no "talented" MC's really sell half ya'll don't even know who Talib Kweli, Pharoahe Monch, Ras Kass, JR Writer, Kool G Rap, Rakim (mighta heard his name but how much have you heard?), and others are....... those are hip hop artists... I don't even consider Chingy, Nelly, Lil Flip, and others MC's... they're straight up wack |
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Jul 15 2004, 08:11 AM
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ugh i can't stand it when pop singers like britney have songs featuring ex. "the ying yang twins." it's soo f*ckin annoying. pop needs to stay pop and so does hip-hop and r&b.
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Jul 15 2004, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 172 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 25,339 |
QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 15 2004, 1:55 AM) as I said though, real hip hop artist aren't famous.... the rappers that are big are basically puppets of the industry that make songs for the people to want to buy more than make music that they truly feel... wit the exception of Em and Jay, no "talented" MC's really sell half ya'll don't even know who Talib Kweli, Pharoahe Monch, Ras Kass, JR Writer, Kool G Rap, Rakim (mighta heard his name but how much have you heard?), and others are....... those are hip hop artists... I don't even consider Chingy, Nelly, Lil Flip, and others MC's... they're straight up wack I like Talib Kweli! |
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Jul 15 2004, 02:53 PM
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Lyrical Genius: Watch 4 AND!!! Group: Member Posts: 574 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,616 |
you got Blackstar or Reflection Eternal? or even Quality? or the Beautiful Struggle Mixtape? or the Beautiful Struggle advance?
Kweli's SICK! |
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Jul 15 2004, 02:58 PM
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LunchboxXx Group: Member Posts: 1,789 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,810 |
QUOTE(h22fanatik @ Jul 15 2004, 8:11 AM) ugh i can't stand it when pop singers like britney have songs featuring ex. "the ying yang twins." it's soo f*ckin annoying. pop needs to stay pop and so does hip-hop and r&b. aaw, but i like when artists that sound drasticly different work together. like anthrax and public enemy. or wu tang and rage against the machine. it makes me happy. |
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Jul 17 2004, 09:30 PM
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I dunno. Like, it doesn't SOUND like Pop, but a lot of the R&B/Rap/Hip Hop definitely hitting the charts like the old Britney and Xtina songs were in the 90's.
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Jul 18 2004, 12:51 AM
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 your signal fades away, and all I'm left with is noise. Group: Member Posts: 2,099 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,110 |
i think that rap & r&b is kinda the new pop because it's what in now..although i loved rap & r&b before it was popular hehe..that's my kinda music!!!!
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Jul 18 2004, 12:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 664 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,686 |
QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 15 2004, 2:53 PM) you got Blackstar or Reflection Eternal? or even Quality? or the Beautiful Struggle Mixtape? or the Beautiful Struggle advance? Kweli's SICK! ok how you said that most stuff on MTV is "wack" then why is that "kayne" guy on ur xanga cus i saw him on MTV? but yeah man rap is all the same (they just talk about sex, drugs, and how racism is every where) |
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Aug 17 2004, 09:20 PM
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 "Back!Break!Anomics!" Group: Member Posts: 198 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,870 |
i agree with pen the instrument....not every "rap" is wack..well hip hop is totally diff then rap but w/e....pple just like wat makes money...commercial pple out there dont kno about music...wat ever happend 2 good punch lines...i mean come on when u play a song that the best line is "i love you like a fat kid loves cake" i mean come on thats sad...w/e pple play wat gets them "krunk" at clubs..it attracts wack pple..im done
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Aug 18 2004, 12:13 AM
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 hi Group: Member Posts: 1,478 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,897 |
yeah i've noticed that a lot, not only on tv but on the radio too. I mean now all radio stations play are mostly hip-hop and r&b and the occasional rock song
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Aug 18 2004, 12:17 AM
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 wanderlust personified. Group: Official Designer Posts: 7,515 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 797 |
pop music was very superficial. and now so is rap/r&b... so i guess you could say that...
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