Lounge VS News Forum, Something to think about |
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 Aug 12 2008, 08:06 AM
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 Tick tock, Bill  Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948  |
I think we are faced with a choice -
Do we allow News items to be posted in the Lounge and have good conversations about recent events? OR Do we embrace our inner anal mod and move News items to the News Forum, where more than likely they will get 2 or 3 responses and sit there, dying a slow, painful death? After you answer that, should we really, in all seriousness, keep the News Forum? There's been this concept of initiating more Lounge conversations for a long time now. Perhaps with a potential removal of the News Forum, we can infuse more conversations and thoughtful conversation into the Lounge. Are we being stubborn by keeping the News forum? Just a few things to think about. |
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Aug 12 2008, 09:26 AM
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 I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
i think everyone probably already knows my opinion on this.
i don't think we should kill off topics with thought provoking material and good content just so we can move them into a news section. like you said, we're always talking about bringing more thoughtful convo into the lounge. however when people do, it tends to get moved off somewhere else where it quickly stops getting responses  i don't think order and organization need to be so high up on the priority scale when it comes to a forum like the lounge. besides, if everyone would just be smart like me and hit "view new posts" instead of going to specific sections then they'd never know the difference 
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Aug 12 2008, 10:15 AM
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 James killed the radio star. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,095 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 589,855 |
To be honest, we probably could eliminate the News Forum altogether. I mean, a lot of the stuff that does get posted there isn't really hard news anyway. If we do keep it though, then the topics should be moved there. Either have it and use it, or not, but don't let's just leave it there to fester.
Sigh... it was such a good idea at the time. |
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Aug 12 2008, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(The-March-Hare @ Aug 12 2008, 11:15 AM)  To be honest, we probably could eliminate the News Forum altogether. I mean, a lot of the stuff that does get posted there isn't really hard news anyway. If we do keep it though, then the topics should be moved there. Either have it and use it, or not, but don't let's just leave it there to fester. Sigh... it was such a good idea at the time. Yeah, exactly. At this rate, there are way too few meaningful topics without letting the news-related ones stay. |
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Aug 12 2008, 01:55 PM
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 DDR \\ I'm Dee :) Group: Mentor Posts: 8,662 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,020 |
I couldn't let my inner-mod take over and move the topics. It was really refreshing to see meaningful topics getting replies. Which is why I moved some of the News ones back to the Lounge. I don't see a problem in getting of the News forum
I really don't know why people don't reply to the topics in those forums more often.
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Aug 12 2008, 05:16 PM
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 That's what she said. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,559 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 130,200 |
I wouldn't mind eliminating the News forum now that I see more and more people posting current events and news in the Lounge. Its true, it gets a lot of replies when its in the Lounge and then when its moved to the News forum or made in the News forum, it fails to get replies.
I don't think anybody will really object to the bon voyage of the News forum.
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Aug 12 2008, 06:33 PM
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Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
Any objections to moving this on over to Feedback? I'd really love to get the community's views.
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Aug 12 2008, 07:52 PM
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That's what she said. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,559 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 130,200 |
QUOTE(superstitious @ Aug 12 2008, 07:33 PM) Any objections to moving this on over to Feedback? I'd really love to get the community's views. None. 
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Aug 13 2008, 08:30 AM
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Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
Moved to Feedback
Hello everyone - if you could, please give feedback. =) |
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Aug 13 2008, 09:43 AM
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 in a matter of time Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,151 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 191,357 |
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Aug 12 2008, 07:26 AM) besides, if everyone would just be smart like me and hit "view new posts" instead of going to specific sections then they'd never know the difference Totally agree. I never go to the subforums unless I'm looking for a specific topic. I always "View New Posts", and I'm pretty sure most of the regular members do the same. The location of the thread doesn't prevent me from replying - it's the content. Maybe, by nature, News topics are less interesting. So less people reply - it's not because it's labeled as "News", but purely because they are News, that makes them inactive. If that makes any sense. But sometimes, I want to find a topic that I may have read in the News subforum. It would be pretty easy to find if such a subforum existed - however, if eliminated and included in the hubbub of the Lounge, it would take me a while to find such a topic. So, IMO, a little extra organization never hurt anybody. So maybe eliminating the News section would be beneficial. But I think the pros (having it be more organized) outweigh the cons (inactivity that we're not even sure is caused by the location of the thread...and the anal-ness). And anyways, what's the big deal if we have a few slow subforums? |
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Aug 13 2008, 12:14 PM
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 the name's mario Group: Official Member Posts: 1,270 Joined: Jun 2008 Member No: 656,520 |
wtf, i didn't even knew we had a news forum
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Aug 13 2008, 12:32 PM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
QUOTE(Gigi @ Aug 13 2008, 09:43 AM) Totally agree. I never go to the subforums unless I'm looking for a specific topic. I always "View New Posts", and I'm pretty sure most of the regular members do the same. i think you'd be surprised how many people don't do this though, even regular members. i made a topic about that one time, or someone did, and i was amazed at the amount of people who really navigate around to each sub forum |
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Aug 13 2008, 12:33 PM
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Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
I'm a "new posts" person as well. I only took at sub forums specifically if I'm looking for a particular thread or subforum to post in.
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Aug 13 2008, 12:35 PM
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in a matter of time Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,151 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 191,357 |
^ Exactly, me too!
We should do a poll to re-assess the situation. How many people really "View New Posts"? |
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Aug 13 2008, 03:48 PM
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 Photoartist Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
QUOTE(superstitious @ Aug 12 2008, 08:06 AM) I think we are faced with a choice - Ha ha, that doesn't even sound like a serious question.Do we allow News items to be posted in the Lounge and have good conversations about recent events? OR Do we embrace our inner anal mod and move News items to the News Forum, where more than likely they will get 2 or 3 responses and sit there, dying a slow, painful death? QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Aug 12 2008, 09:26 AM) i think everyone probably already knows my opinion on this. Cosign and word.i don't think we should kill off topics with thought provoking material and good content just so we can move them into a news section. like you said, we're always talking about bringing more thoughtful convo into the lounge. however when people do, it tends to get moved off somewhere else where it quickly stops getting responses i don't think order and organization need to be so high up on the priority scale when it comes to a forum like the lounge. besides, if everyone would just be smart like me and hit "view new posts" instead of going to specific sections then they'd never know the difference R.I.P. News forum |
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Aug 13 2008, 04:22 PM
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 Amberific. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,913 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,772 |
I too love the "View New Posts" button. I've been using it a lot lately.
QUOTE(Gigi @ Aug 13 2008, 10:43 AM) But sometimes, I want to find a topic that I may have read in the News subforum. It would be pretty easy to find if such a subforum existed - however, if eliminated and included in the hubbub of the Lounge, it would take me a while to find such a topic. So, IMO, a little extra organization never hurt anybody. I don't know. I mean, locating topics is the whole reason for the search button, right? And eliminating the News forum, although it would be less organized, would be ultimately easier for moderation purposes (one less forum to check).
So maybe eliminating the News section would be beneficial. But I think the pros (having it be more organized) outweigh the cons (inactivity that we're not even sure is caused by the location of the thread...and the anal-ness). And anyways, what's the big deal if we have a few slow subforums? |
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Aug 14 2008, 12:40 AM
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in a matter of time Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,151 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 191,357 |
^ The search button is pretty useless if you're looking for the "God" topic, as we are all probably familiar with if you've been in the Debate forum.
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Aug 14 2008, 07:53 AM
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Amberific. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,913 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,772 |
Oh. Yeah. I could see how that would be a problem.
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Aug 14 2008, 04:23 PM
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 ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,309 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,593 |
I'm with JC on this. I never click on Subforums to check out new posts/threads. I always just hit "View New Posts". Hence the reason why I post in almost every subforum and not just a particular one.
So it doesn't really matter to me. Sorry I donn't have any input on this matter. 
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Aug 14 2008, 09:11 PM
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Photoartist Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
Sometimes I miss topics here and there going solely by "View New Posts," but I still wouldn't mind doing away with the News forum regardless.
Actually at this moment, the Debate forum looks so dead and dumb that anything that calls for any remotely stimulating debate might as well be done in The Lounge as well. But that'd just be sad if the Debate forum went away.  Just sayin, I guess.
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Aug 14 2008, 10:43 PM
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DDR \\ I'm Dee :) Group: Mentor Posts: 8,662 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,020 |
I think the debate forum keeps things more organized. Sometimes there are News topic about something that is simular to what is being debated in a Debate topic, and so you don't have to go into a topic that involves a heated discussion.
I'm making it sound like the topics are in Debate so that people can avoid them 
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Aug 14 2008, 10:45 PM
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 BBM: 310ED181 Group: Member Posts: 613 Joined: Jul 2008 Member No: 671,976 |
alot of the debate topics kind of go along with the news. it gets confusing sometimes
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Aug 15 2008, 09:36 AM
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Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
I would LOVE to keep the News subforum, I really would. The thing is, technically things should be moved if it's a news topic posted in The Lounge. However, I really like that the news related topics have stimulated some pretty good conversations in The Lounge. I'd rather have a great Lounge forum than a mediocre News Forum.
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