Createspam, Createblog has created a monster Options

[sadolakced acid]

hey james.

yea, even irc, because it was tested by mods first, and because not everyone could figure out how to get on, that's why it was good.

also, it was an alternate to the aim chat.

well, i'm off to watch soccer now.

[*I Shot JFK*]

it isnt a big deal, really. but why would you want to, other than to cause trouble?

and history suggests that when people DO share accounts, eventually bad things happen. so a crack down was inevitable, really.

i like IRC

[NoSex]

"Why its such a big deal to share usernames if its not gonna do harm?"

-Christine

I think it is an issue because of the fact that it is not a necessity among members to share usernames. However, the truth of the matter is that it could very easily lead to problems. I mean, when two people are using a single username, it can become difficult to appropriately punish and or reward someone for their actions. If a punishment is handed out, one person, or even both persons, may object in saying that they were not responsible for the action in question. That's just a lot of needless confusion and problems, and that's just the tip of the ice berg.

Altogether, I would say it isn't allowed so that these certain problems involved in username sharing will never have to be an issue. And, since it is not a member necessity, it isn't any kind of loss for members.

[*RiC3xBoy*]

I think it is an issue because of the fact that it is not a necessity among members to share usernames. However, the truth of the matter is that it could very easily lead to problems. I mean, when two people are using a single username, it can become difficult to appropriately punish and or reward someone for their actions. If a punishment is handed out, one person, or even both persons, may object in saying that they were not responsible for the action in question. That's just a lot of needless confusion and problems, and that's just the tip of the ice berg.

Altogether, I would say it isn't allowed so that these certain problems involved in username sharing will never have to be an issue. And, since it is not a member necessity, it isn't any kind of loss for members.

Then why not just punish the username? If I borrowed a library book, and I loose it. its my fault. If I borrowed a library book, then let you borrow it and you loose it, its still my fault.

Also, just punish them when they do something bad. You shouldn't ban cars just because they are capable of crashing. Yea, it isn't a necessity, but there isn't a gain either.

[*I Shot JFK*]

^ im not sure that that last sentence was what you meant to say...

and dont punish the username, because th eusernme is not, in fact, responsible... th eperson is.

[*RiC3xBoy*]

and dont punish the username, because th eusernme is not, in fact, responsible... th eperson is.

Yeah, but like Nate said, how would you know who it was? Best thing to do is just to punish the username.

[NoSex]

Yeah, but like Nate said, how would you know who it was? Best thing to do is just to punish the username.

But, wouldn't it be better yet to just not allow the sharing of usernames in the first place?

[*RiC3xBoy*]

But, wouldn't it be better yet to just not allow the sharing of usernames in the first place?

I, personally, don't share, but I do know a few people who would like to be able to share just for the sake of fun.

[Just_Dream]

Well, I guess it's my turn to say something

While I was reading the beginning of this thread, I was shocked to see people using "summer" as an excuse for spam. Also, suggesting that waiting for summer to end for the spam to end isn't good because by waiting and doing nothing, there's a greater chance that there will be more spam.

Oh yea, and all those v100000000 topics -- Seriously, those just have to go. I remember in the past (YES I'm reminiscing about the past), the only topic that had multiple versions of it was the Member Photos. As for moving those kind of spam-like/related topics to sandbox -- not a bad idea.

I don't really agree with the idea of splitting into two houses because it does seem to cause separation, but hey I've been so disconnected with the community, so I might not really understand, and I apologize for that. I do agree that there is a defined separation between the community (agreeing with Steven here).

I really want to move this topic to the Feedback forum, but it would probably get more feedback in the lounge, since I would have to say that this topic revolves around the lounge (most, if not all spam, happens here... sad to say). Also, about rules. Being strict, being lenient... we're constantly shifting and it doesn't seem to appeal to the community.

Oh yes, and about basing moderations on judgements -- then we wouldn't need the by-laws. I'm not saying that we don't need them, it's just a speculation. In the past we used to moderate people based on judgements, but at the same time people were displeased about us using our judgements because each moderator has a different perspective on things, right? Regardless, I wouldn't mind going back to basing our actions on our own judgements. I also don't mind being stricter. I, for one, think it's okay to sacrifice the participation of members in order for cB to be much more stricter. At least it would be more enjoyable and more mature. I mean, there's A LOT that has happened.

You know, I mentioned quite a bit about createblog.com in my senior exhibition. People asked me about it and I said a lot of good things about createblog, but now I feel as if some of the things I said were lies since the community has been so.. disconnected.

Oh and I was talking to Kiera a short while ago (*flashback* moment -- you can ignore this!) and I was talking about how the community used to be so much closer in the past, yet there was quite a bit of drama and a huge split amongst the moderators. I don't believe any current mods remember this, except for Sammi. Although, before Sammi came, there was still some sort of split. Now the mods seem much more closer and we don't have any drama, yet there's drama and/or separation amongst the community. Especially due to the all the cliques , spam, etc. I'l also referring to the classification of the members that Steven stated.

And Acid Bath Slayer -- you made a good point. This isn't all about spam, it truly is about the community. I think we've all neglected to state this, so thank you for making this topic. I myself have felt disconnected with the community.

There's more I want to say but I just need to gather all my thoughts together..

I have yet to develop a solution as well. I do agree that Jusun's inactivity is sstarting to become a problem. I mean, already I feel disconnected and I still don't know everything that goes on around here...

My head hurts. I just had my high school graduation today, so sorry if some of the things I say are redundant...

EDIT - What happens if the two people sharing the username fight and then changes the password? We won't know who to beleive to retrieve it... IDK if what I'm saying makes sense but it does in my head!

[NoSex]

And Acid Bath Slayer -- you made a good point. This isn't all about spam, it truly is about the community. I think we've all neglected to state this, so thank you for making this topic. I myself have felt disconnected with the community.

You're very welcome.
And, thank you for taking the time to post here and relate your concerns.
This is pretty much what I hoped for.

Well, if you feel disconnected, I think you have a wonderful opportunity right here to help begin the battle to improve the quality of Createblog - for everyone. If our community starts to shape up, we need to have our leaders on the front-line.

[x1049]

i agree that there's a lot of spam, but this is the first forum i've ever been a part of, so i just took it for granted that that was the way that all forums were... filled with meaningless replies from people who just want to get thier post count up.

But, if you say that there is room to better the forum, than i totally agree. I've pretty much stopped visiting CB because of how utterly boring it was/is.

I agree that an art forum is pushing in the right direction.

But, i cant really see it improving very much or at all as far as debate topics etc. What is the majority age group for this place? 12-16? how many people to you know of that age group that are actually motivated and passionate about debates? And how many would make an effort to actually visit, contribute, and make sure that thier contributions were WORTH WHILE and actually took some thought?

As much as i would love for it to work, i don't think it's going to happen. people don't like work.

[marzipan]

Alright. I have noticed recently that these boards have been suffering from an obscene amount of spam and one on one conversation based posting. The entire vibe and feel of the boards have, in my opinion, reached a kind of low. The debate threads are more stagnant than ever. The lounge is a waste of time. The entertainment threads suffer any kind of in-depth or worthwhile posts. It just seems like the community boards are really beginning to suck.

The problem is, how would we solve this problem?
Do we need to punish those spammers? If so, will traffic decrease to a useless degree?
Maybe we can try to attract some older parties?
The debate thread could become exclusive. But, then it might actually become entirely stagnant.
The idea for an art subforum seems to be a push in the right direction.
Or maybe I should just find a more suitable community board?

What do you guys think?

You make a very good point, and it's great that you bring this up. Many times i have tried to read threads in the debate forum only to face 1-2 pages of spam in the middle of the thread. And punishment should be needed if warnings are useless.

Maybe we can try to attract some older parties?
What exactly do you mean by that..?

Do we need to punish those spammers? If so, will traffic decrease to a useless degree?
If we punish them, i don't think the forums such as debate would become inactive because there are still eminent members on createblog who contribute. If the spammers are punished, that could allow the threads to flow easier, and i would actually view them more because they wouldn't be bombarded with spam.

Or maybe I should just find a more suitable community board?

[push kicks]

lol @ page 6 & 7, every time nicki posts james posts right after to argue against suzzette



do you guys like keep track of verbal warnings, like do you have a tally backstage of who has how many verbal warnings and what not? how many verbal warnings equals a suspension?

[AngryBaby]

Maybe we can try to attract some older parties?

older parties will make no difference. alot of the older folks that have been on here
spammed more/or caused more trouble than most people anyway. and im talkin grown members

[*AngelicEyz00*]

I honestly think one of the... well, not really problems, but... something that makes cB a lot different today from how it was a long time ago is the number of members.

I enjoyed cB more when there were less people; everyone knew eachother; everyone like eachother (for the most part).

[NoSex]

But, i cant really see it improving very much or at all as far as debate topics etc.

Some ideas for improving the Debate Subforum:
Making the Debate Forum Exclusive

Maybe we can try to attract some older parties?
What exactly do you mean by that..?

older parties will make no difference.

I probably should I have said more "mature parties."

[AngryBaby]

how do you determine that?

[NoSex]

how do you determine that?

Determine what? How to attract more mature parties?
Or, who is more mature?

What I meant was that we could help to create a more mature enviroment here on Createblog, which would in effect attract a more mature population.

[sadolakced acid]

once a group gets larger than 200 people, it loses a community feel.

so i suggest we split all the (relatively) active members into groups of 100 or so, each with a private lounge.

all the rest of the members are unassigned, but can be placed in one of the groups.

when a group reaches 200, it is split into two groups of about 100.

[*Statistik*]

<3

[sadolakced acid]

see?

you have to admit, without idiots to make fun of, where would we be?

i mean, asian 12 year olds who think they're black- pretty entertaining.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

^Hahaha.

Jason, you're an idiot.

Anywho... I don't think "private" lounges will work out too well.

[sadolakced acid]

why not?

works pretty well for mods

[AngryBaby]

Determine what? How to attract more mature parties?
Or, who is more mature?

What I meant was that we could help to create a more mature enviroment here on Createblog, which would in effect attract a more mature population.

thats the thing, how would we create a mature enviroment, that would initially attract a....mature member.

do you have any ideas?

well for starts *cough* the layout is kinda plain, but uh *cough*

thats probably not what you mean lol.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

why not?

works pretty well for mods

Not really. It was pretty boring back there when I was mod.