Pledge of Allegiance, bye bye "Under God" Options

[*NatiMarie*]

Ok, so I heard that the 'Under God' part of the Pledge of Allegiance is going to be taken off.

What do you think? Should it have stayed? Will these be action be done, or will continue to stay in the Pledge of Allegiance?

Should the Pledge of Allegiance even contain 'Under God' in it?

[EmeraldKnight]

I think it should, just because of convention and that fact that its been here the same for so long... i mean, if it offends ppl, they shouldnt force everyone to say it, but i dont think that they should change it either... i mean.. realli, we shouldnt change the pledge of allegiance, which affects thousands of kids across America, just for a minority of ppl that might be offended by it... ppl choose whether to recite it or not, but dont change it for so many others

[chimpanzee]

i dont see why it should be there. it is unnecicary and offends some people. out with it!!!

[WildGriffin]

kids have a choice to say the pledge as it is, i don't see why it has to be adjusted. if they're going to take "under god" away from the pledge, they need to go ahead and take it off the money too.

[Spirited Away]

Even though I'm not a religious person, I want to keep the "under God" part. It doesn't bother me and I think it's fitting.

[*Kathleen*]

I don't honestly see what the big controversy here is. This atheist just wants to piss off a bunch of religions to get attention. No, I don't think we should. If you don't want to say it, fine. Don't do it to get attention.

[stryker76]

i agree i see no reason to remove it...i mean no one says you have to say it...so say the pledge and skip that part....go dont say the pledge...in my school we have been sayin it every morning since Kindergarten.....so im sorry if there are some mornings i dont want to stand to say the pledge....it doesnt mean i dont love my country ne less

[strice]

i skip the pledge all together. i stopped when the war began.

[EmeraldKnight]

Why's that?

[strice]

uh, i thought it was obvious. i was very antiwar from the start and i felt betrayed by my country when we went to war.

[EmeraldKnight]

uh, i thought it was obvious. i was very antiwar from the start and i felt betrayed by my country when we went to war.

well... i didnt know you were anti-war.. and yeah.. i see how that works, i dont like how some schools force kids to say the pledge.. i mean.. they realli shouldnt alter it, but they shouldnt force it upon ppl either

[*NatiMarie*]

I just don't say the pledge of allegiance. We're not forced to in our classrooms. I just sit down. I could say it, because I don't really mind, but I choose not to. 1) Too lazy and 2) Not really that significant to me. My laziness gets to me once again.

[EmeraldKnight]

I just don't say the pledge of allegiance. We're not forced to in our classrooms. I just sit down. I could say it, because I don't really mind, but I choose not to. 1) Too lazy and 2) Not really that significant to me.  My laziness gets to me once again. 

haha well, we dont do it in high school anymore, but when i was in middle school, the had them on the announcements, and our teachers MADE us stand up and say them.. plus we'd look like a fool if we didnt

[*kryogenix*]

uh, i thought it was obvious. i was very antiwar from the start and i felt betrayed by my country when we went to war.

do you plan to move to another country?

I just don't say the pledge of allegiance. We're not forced to in our classrooms. I just sit down. I could say it, because I don't really mind, but I choose not to. 1) Too lazy and 2) Not really that significant to me.  My laziness gets to me once again.

right. imagine if our founding fathers as well as current soldiers were "too lazy" and "didn't think fighting for the US was significant."

haha well, we dont do it in high school anymore, but when i was in middle school, the had them on the announcements, and our teachers MADE us stand up and say them.. plus we'd look like a fool if we didnt

you don't have to say the pledge. if you got in trouble, you could make a big deal out of it with the school administration.

[Spirited Away]

When I was in high school, the pledge was recited once a week, and people do not have to do it. But when there's someone who decides to skip saying it, the rest of the class would glare at him/her.

I think that it's disrespectful to your country and to yourself. Kryogenix, said it, our founding fathers sacrificed their lives for this country's independence, the least you can do is show some respect for their blood. Not to mention that you (or your parents) chose to settle here. If this country is 'bad', that means your (or your parents) made a bad decision to move here. That doesn't boad to well on your part of decision making.

[*instantmusic*]

I thought they decided to keep the 'under God' part.

Anyway, I say the pledge. Its my duty and a thankyou to the ones who started America.

[*Kathleen*]

thought they decided to keep the 'under God' part.

Yeah - in some states, they took it out. We still have it in ours.

Anyway, I say the pledge. Its my duty and a thankyou to the ones who started America.

I completely agree...we should. I wish everyone had this thought in mind when saying it.

[strice]

do you plan to move to another country?

yes, i do.

[ThePrincessofTKD]

kids have a choice to say the pledge as it is, i don't see why it has to be adjusted. if they're going to take "under god" away from the pledge, they need to go ahead and take it off the money too.

the money part is true. ["in God we trust"...look for yourself] they would have to change many things that say "under God"...in u.s. history, we had to memorize the gettysburg address spoken by Abraham Lincoln

(taken from the gettysburg address)
"that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain--that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom---and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth"

one of my classmates doesn`t even say the pledge. it doesn`t hurt NOT to say the pledge. it`s your right to say it or not.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

i never say the pledge =\ I just stand up, put my arm over my chest, and look at the flag

[princess2113]

yes it should...this nation was found under God..n shuld continue to state that in our pledge...we dont force anyone to say anything in there or any of it at all...they can choose not to say if they wish...but those of us who believe we r a seperate nation b/c of Him have a rite to state so in there...and also it never states a specific "god"...it culd either be God...or if u want to interpret it differantly..no1 is throwing u in jail for it...only antheist n sume agnostics have a prob. with it

[juliar]

Well, I say the Pledge of ALleigance. Partly. Most of the time I stop before I get to underGod. But most of the people in my class who are religious and not religious dont care either...so its not that much of a controverst with me.

[Spirited Away]

yes it should...this nation was found under God..

I disagree, this nation was founded under the belief of freedom, not God.

and also it never states a specific "god"...it culd either be God...or if u want to interpret it differantly..no1 is throwing u in jail for it...only antheist n sume agnostics have a prob. with it

That's true, it could be any god, so I agree that "under God" shouldn't bother anyone except of Atheists.

[princess2113]

I disagree, this nation was founded under the belief of freedom, not God.



That's true, it could be any god, so I agree that "under God" shouldn't bother anyone except of Atheists.

hum yesh babe this was found under God...its history...thats y all the coins say "In God we trust" and when u go to court u swear on a Bible...in school u learn pilgrams came for religious freedom...rite? so they came to worship God

[Spirited Away]

hum yesh babe this was found under God...its history...thats y all the coins say "In God we trust" and when u go to court u swear on a Bible...in school u learn pilgrams came for religious freedom...rite? so they came to worship God

Actually, ehehe, they came here for the FREEDOM to serve God. Not under God's name. There's a difference.

I learn more about pilgrims than you'd think, but what do you know? They came here for the freedom to serve God as they wished.

And you're right, it is for religious freedom, but there were many different groups who wanted to serve God the way they wanted to. There were huguenots, quakers, puritans, and others. NOT just pilgrims, "babe".

And because of this religious freedom, you're facing the whole problem of atheists disagreeing about "Under God". They have a freedom not to pursue religious means just like you have a freedom to serve God.

There's two sides to every story, please respect that.