Cloning, are you for it, or not? Options

[*NatiMarie*]

Hopefully, this thread hasn't been made yet, sorry if it has...

Anywhoo:

Are you for or against cloning? Why or why not?

[dani41790]

well i kinda dont noe cuz im kinda for it for like tha cloning of organs to save pplz lives but yet im against it cuz umm its kinda against mai religion so yea i dunno

[toyie boxx]

cloning is bad.. we'd all be the same ;[

[whomps]

I'm against cloning.
If there was cloning.. then what would be the point for the word "unique" ?



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[tkproduce]

I don't know about you guys but there's one misconception about cloning that some people make - if you clone a person, then you don't immediately get a clone of yourself at the current moment. You'll get a baby - more appropriately an embryo - that has the same DNA as you. By the time he/she/it is your age, you'll be twice that, unless of course it's a Hollywood movie.

Personally, although it may have a lot of biological and medical benefits, I feel I'm against it because of the moral issues surrounding it. It's similar to the debate over abortion... hey, that can be a new topic

[Jiggapin0]

I'm against it. Cloning is playing God which isn't cool.

[Winter]

I think I'm against it even though like tkproduce said, medically it benefits. But like Jiggapin0 said, playing God is not cool. If something goes wrong, these human clones might grow by the numbers and turn against the normal human beings. Lolx sorry, too much science fiction movies...

[rivendell]

Cloning a whole person is virtually impossible. Our eggs aren't able to be fooled and accept the body cell that is needed to make the cloning work. Instead of an egg and a sperm, what they do is remove the nucleus from the egg and implant a regular body cell into it. Sheep and Cow embryos have been able to be fooled like this, and this is why you had Dolly the Sheep.

I think cloning an entire human is wrong. There are too many variables involved with the way you are brought up and the world around you - you can never give birth to the same person twice.

BUT I have no problem with people using their own cells to clone parts of them ... if a person is burned on over 75% of their body, I think they should be able to take their own skin cells and clone grafts of their own skin. If someone's kidneys are failing, I think they should be able with their own kidney cells clone new healthy ones. I don't find anything at all wrong with something like that. It's just when you try it with the entire human being does it get kinda tricky...

[tkproduce]

well it may be tricky now, but I can bet you they'll manage it in a few years time. So I think scientific limitations isn't really an issue here - it's the moral issues that stop it from happening

[*Kathleen*]

Yes, I'm sure we'll be able to find new ways for medical benefits in the future. I'm against this, even though I am anti-abortion. There's a lot of chances this won't work, as Jess (Rivendell) said. Look at Dolly - she died, and scientists still don't know why she did. Although, as Jess did say, you can't create the same person unless they're brought up the same exact way (which I highly doubt will occur). Still, think about how those people would feel when they grow up - people won't think of them as a human, and more of a machine or lab animal. I don't think that's fair to them. Why make them suffer like that?

[Spirited Away]

I'm against it, for the same reasons that others have said on previous posts.

But curious minds will experiment with it anyway. How are we to stop it from happening?

[LQ_Darksoul]

If and when they are able to create successful clones of human, I think it will be an atrocity to humanity. The worse part comes down to who owns the cloned child and how he/she would be raised. A multimillion company is not going to spend millions to create a clone of anyone and give it to a family to be raised willingly. But then the family wouldn't allow years upon years of tests being done to there child potentially causing mental or physical damage. When the child turns 18, would the child be able to live out in the free-world without the nuisance of being controlled by the multi-million company. It's a lot to think about, and sure, cloning organs would help humanity in many ways, but cloning human beings could be a very bad thing.

[tkproduce]

Still, think about how those people would feel when they grow up - people won't think of them as a human, and more of a machine or lab animal. I don't think that's fair to them. Why make them suffer like that?

umm... I think the basic idea behind cloning is that once the clone cells are made, they have to be placed in a female womb to develop, so they aren't that different from "normal" humans. Identical twins are a product of cloning occuring naturally.

[*Kathleen*]

Yes, but they'll know they're a clone anyways, and so will the people around them...

[waccoon]

umm... I think the basic idea behind cloning is that once the clone cells are made, they have to be placed in a female womb to develop, so they aren't that different from "normal" humans. Identical twins are a product of cloning occuring naturally.

zygotes, blastulas? twins are just cell reproduction.

[lilb]

Ok, honestly I have always wanted a twin...yeah...sum ppl want a little brother, an older sister..wtvr...I want a twin....but I strongly disagree with clones..they have no souls..which mean they have no consiounce....which means they could kill without feeling pain or caring, not to mention, obvioulsy, I am a christian and its unbiblical.

[tkproduce]

Ok, honestly I have always wanted a twin...yeah...sum ppl want a little brother, an older sister..wtvr...I want a twin....but I strongly disagree with clones..they have no souls..which mean they have no consiounce....which means they could kill without feeling pain or caring, not to mention, obvioulsy, I am a christian and its unbiblical.

That's wrong. A clone is just another human being that happens to have the same DNA as another person. Depending on the environment he or she is brought up in, he or she may or may not be anything like the person they were "cloned" from. Identical twins have identical DNA. A clone would just be like a twin who developed in someone else's womb (and some couples have had their babies develop in other people's wombs). Of course they're going to have a soul and conscience - I don't know what you're on about. Anyway, between us humans, less than 99% of our DNA differ from other humans. We're all slight mutations of each other. If we keep on calling clones "clones", then the appropriate name for us would be "mutants".

[*CJ1*]

I'm against cloning. There are already many people in the world and its being overpopulated. Can't we be happy with the people already here? but if it's for rare animals, sure. People are killing animals and making more humans. There's just too much in the world these days.

[tofumonzter]

I'm against cloning. There will be a big problem if we start cloning, robbery, education, love and more. If we start cloning this world will be a big mess.

[onenonly101]

I'm against clonign flat out. I would never believe them to be a real human being no matter how "normal" they are

[AmesBond]

I'm not against cloning! (*don't kill me!*)

When you clone, don't you just clone the genetic material? So, won't that mean that even if the genetic make up is the same, the personality and behavior will be different depending on the surroundings in the environment. So even if it has the same genetic make up, the being is still different.

As for who "owns" what, I don't think that's a wrong use of term. The person whose genes they used to create the clone will act as the parent specie, right? So, won't he or she treat the clone as if that were his/her child? There will be no "owning" of anyone I suppose, they are still human beings afterall.

And the way the clone is treated as he/she grows older, that's just society's fault for discriminating.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

Ok, honestly I have always wanted a twin...yeah...sum ppl want a little brother, an older sister..wtvr...I want a twin....but I strongly disagree with clones..they have no souls..which mean they have no consiounce....which means they could kill without feeling pain or caring, not to mention, obvioulsy, I am a christian and its unbiblical.

Wha in the world did you just say???

ok, clones have no souls?? no conscience? ok... a clone, is a clone... A clone would be made up of cells and organs and all that, just like a human... A human clone would be human.

Personally, I'm against cloning a human, beacause well, first of all, there's already a lot of people on this earth, secondly... it's just kinda weird, no? And this clone will physically be born and grow up as almost a replica of the original, but psychologically, it'll be a totally different person...

What I am for is cloning cells, like maybe brain cells for someone who's suffered brain damage or something? I dunno, but yeah...

[*Kathleen*]

I'm not against cloning! (*don't kill me!*)

When you clone, don't you just clone the genetic material? So, won't that mean that even if the genetic make up is the same, the personality and behavior will be different depending on the surroundings in the environment. So even if it has the same genetic make up, the being is still different.

As for who "owns" what, I don't think that's a wrong use of term. The person whose genes they used to create the clone will act as the parent specie, right? So, won't he or she treat the clone as if that were his/her child? There will be no "owning" of anyone I suppose, they are still human beings afterall.

And the way the clone is treated as he/she grows older, that's just society's fault for discriminating.

Yes, I completely agree with you, but they will be treated differently. It's bad enough when people are bullied...think about how "different" this being is going to be.

Also, tk, how can it be natural cloning? Identical twins aren't even on purpose...they occur because the cell has been split...that doesn't mean it intentionally wanted another copy of the organism...

Back to you, Michelle, if they're going to be cloned, they'd probably be in and out of a labratory their whole lives...how aggravating would that be? Just think about how they would feel.

Granted, as Elba said, sometimes I think cloning is good because we'd be able to discover new things...still, we'd be treating that being like a lab animal...I can't see that as being moral. Heh. Furthermore, as I think I stated before, there will be other ways to test things.

[Mireh]

There are many pros and cons against cloning. However, I am deeply against cloning.

Why? Because I believe it is imoral. How would it feel living knowing that you were some type of lab expierement? Just a project? How would you feel being pointed at and examined?

Are we as human beings trying to defy god?

[iloveyou07]

There are many pros and cons against cloning. However, I am deeply against cloning.

Why? Because I believe it is imoral. How would it feel living knowing that you were some type of lab expierement? Just a project? How would you feel being pointed at and examined?

Are we as human beings trying to defy god?

exactly!!!

ok im totally against it!!! they have no souls and so where would they go when they died??? not to heaven, not to hell, THEY ARENT REALL HUMAN BEINGS!! THEY DONT HAVE A SOUL OR A SPIRT!!! Thats how God created us, and who are we to say that we can "create" people!