Log In · Register

 

Debate Rules

Here are the general forum rules that you must follow before you start any debate topics. Please make sure you've read and followed all directions.

Debate.

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
male/femal abuse
Fashionista225
post Aug 10 2004, 11:10 PM
Post #1


Senior Member
***

Group: Member
Posts: 80
Joined: Jul 2004
Member No: 31,071



Do you believe in the traditional view that a guy should never hit a woman? If you do believe that does it still count if she's twice your size?
 
ghjgfkgfk
post Aug 10 2004, 11:12 PM
Post #2


POWAPOSTA
*******

Group: Member
Posts: 3,169
Joined: Jul 2004
Member No: 30,725



a guy shouldnever hit a woman and a woman should never hit a guy.

but that doesnt really stop people from doing it.
 
Spirited Away
post Aug 10 2004, 11:19 PM
Post #3


Quand j'étais jeune...
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 6,826
Joined: Jan 2004
Member No: 1,272



Actually, there are times when hitting a woman is appropriate but the situation must REALLY be desperate (i.e life and death).

Ladies should not hit guys because that will get them mad and they might retaliate in kind.
 
IdealizedDrift
post Aug 10 2004, 11:39 PM
Post #4


Nissan/ToyotaGuru
***

Group: Member
Posts: 58
Joined: Jul 2004
Member No: 31,162



QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 10 2004, 11:19 PM)
Ladies should not hit guys because that will get them mad and they might retaliate in kind.

wtf, what kind of response is that

No, I don't think guys should abuse girls, they shouldn't lay a hand on them. Unless like uninspiredfae said, the girl was tryin to kill u
 
Spirited Away
post Aug 10 2004, 11:43 PM
Post #5


Quand j'étais jeune...
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 6,826
Joined: Jan 2004
Member No: 1,272



QUOTE(IdealizedDrift @ Aug 10 2004, 11:39 PM)
wtf, what kind of response is that

No, I don't think guys should abuse girls, they shouldn't lay a hand on them. Unless like uninspiredfae said, the girl was tryin to kill u

WTF is wrong with my response?

It's wrong to hit ANYONE without a reason. My friend hits her boyfriend all the time on the head HARD and I wouldn't be surprised if he slaps her one day.

Since girls want EQUALITY among the sexes, they should expect to be hit by a guy if they made the first move. I believe that chilvalry still exists of course, so if one guy hits a girl in public, that guy has a high chance of being beat up by other guys.
 
EmeraldKnight
post Aug 11 2004, 01:20 AM
Post #6


Senior Member
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,795
Joined: May 2004
Member No: 16,421



QUOTE
WTF is wrong with my response?

It's wrong to hit ANYONE without a reason. My friend hits her boyfriend all the time on the head HARD and I wouldn't be surprised if he slaps her one day.

Since girls want EQUALITY among the sexes, they should expect to be hit by a guy if they made the first move. I believe that chilvalry still exists of course, so if one guy hits a girl in public, that guy has a high chance of being beat up by other guys.

Uhoh.. Fae seems mad.. *cringe* (yes I still remember...)

*ahem* anyways.. is there realli any reason that merits hitting? oh, perhaps in self defense, but beyond that I can't think of any other reason..

Meh.. I agree with your equality reasoning.. but I still wouldn't hit a girl.. (although I have before because of martial arts training, but like stated above, they were expecting it)

The main issue at hand here is realli the societal standard (partly chivalry I suppose) that says guys hitting girls is wrong, but not the other way around

Hm..
QUOTE
Ladies should not hit guys because that will get them mad and they might retaliate in kind

Um.. no offense Fae, but you did kinda set yourself up for the response..
The retaliation part sounds like you're stereotyping that guys are always stronger than girls and will hurt them if they retaliate.. which probably true the majority of the time
However.. in the initial question posed by the thread starter..
QUOTE
If you do believe that does it still count if she's twice your size?

In that situation, so what if they retaliate? If the girl still beats the crap out of the guy.. is that right?

Sorrie, i agree with your argument, but not with your reasoning on that statement
 
LilPiggi3
post Aug 11 2004, 04:43 AM
Post #7


Senior Member
*****

Group: Member
Posts: 675
Joined: Apr 2004
Member No: 14,822



IN MY PIONT OF VIEW: guys should never abuse girl...physically or verbally.

If you do believe that does it still count if she's twice your size? <---yea, so what if she is twice your size...As long as she isn't the one that FIRST hurted/threaten you. Then leave her alone. if you did hurt you, you have to right to hit her back as self defense
 
highly_evolved
post Aug 11 2004, 06:09 AM
Post #8


bang bang! my baby shot me down!
*****

Group: Member
Posts: 754
Joined: Jun 2004
Member No: 23,848



well i dont think guys or girls should hit each other at least if its in an abuse situation kinda thing. but i mean if a guy hits a girl in a playful manner and the girl hits him back ina playful manner the n wats the problem. i hit my guy friends all the time and they hit back. its funny
 
ComradeRed
post Aug 11 2004, 08:21 AM
Post #9


Dark Lord of McCandless
******

Group: Member
Posts: 2,226
Joined: May 2004
Member No: 16,761



QUOTE(Fashionista225 @ Aug 10 2004, 11:10 PM)
Do you believe in the traditional view that a guy should never hit a woman? If you do believe that does it still count if she's twice your size?

LOL: I have a perfect real life example of a female who was twice my size and trying to kill me. But her coach made her see a psychiatrist, so that's good.
 
F1R3B4T
post Aug 11 2004, 12:40 PM
Post #10


Senior Member
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,384
Joined: Aug 2004
Member No: 37,337



yea i dun think guys should hit girls nor the other way around
but if their twice ur size, what kinda dumbass would hit them.
 
Spirited Away
post Aug 11 2004, 01:03 PM
Post #11


Quand j'étais jeune...
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 6,826
Joined: Jan 2004
Member No: 1,272



QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Aug 11 2004, 1:20 AM)
Uhoh.. Fae seems mad.. *cringe* (yes I still remember...)

whistling.gif I don't know what you're talking about... happy.gif


QUOTE
Um.. no offense Fae, but you did kinda set yourself up for the response..
The retaliation part sounds like you're stereotyping that guys are always stronger than girls and will hurt them if they retaliate.. which probably true the majority of the time
However.. in the initial question posed by the thread starter..
In that situation, so what if they retaliate? If the girl still beats the crap out of the guy.. is that right?


Why I said that guys might retaliate in kind:

If you own a dog, you would know this kind of situation is very possible. Imagine that you're playing with your German Shepard very roughly (imagine that you're hitting it on the head, hard). You keep on hitting it and the dog WILL growl at you, and perhaps bite you. Now, lets say this dog isn't your dog, and you hit it like that, the dog will bite back as well.

I know that guys shouldn't hit women, but if the woman is litterally asking for it, then his reasoning is justified.
 
JessJR1022
post Aug 11 2004, 01:32 PM
Post #12


JeSsIcA rAyE
*****

Group: Member
Posts: 782
Joined: May 2004
Member No: 15,977



guys shouldn't be hitting girls......... it's not right


but then again...don't get me wrong I am not saying that it is right for a girl to hit a guy .......


DON"T HIT tongue.gif
 
EmeraldKnight
post Aug 11 2004, 02:16 PM
Post #13


Senior Member
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,795
Joined: May 2004
Member No: 16,421



QUOTE
DON"T HIT 

Yes. Don't.
QUOTE
I don't know what you're talking about...

... I won't even comment on this..

QUOTE
Why I said that guys might retaliate in kind:

If you own a dog, you would know this kind of situation is very possible. Imagine that you're playing with your German Shepard very roughly (imagine that you're hitting it on the head, hard). You keep on hitting it and the dog WILL growl at you, and perhaps bite you. Now, lets say this dog isn't your dog, and you hit it like that, the dog will bite back as well.

I know that guys shouldn't hit women, but if the woman is litterally asking for it, then his reasoning is justified.

But it sounds very much like you're saying that women shouldn't hit men because the men might retaliate and hurt them.. that still doesn't sound like very just reasoning
So what you're saying is that if a woman keeps hitting a guy, then the guy has justification to hit her back?
 
Spirited Away
post Aug 11 2004, 05:13 PM
Post #14


Quand j'étais jeune...
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 6,826
Joined: Jan 2004
Member No: 1,272



QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Aug 11 2004, 2:16 PM)
... I won't even comment on this..

innocent.gif

QUOTE
But it sounds very much like you're saying that women shouldn't hit men because the men might retaliate and hurt them.. that still doesn't sound like very just reasoning
So what you're saying is that if a woman keeps hitting a guy, then the guy has justification to hit her back?


Very much so. In fact, I consider guys who do not stand up for themselves against evil women are no good. Believe it or not, I've seen men who are abused and manipulated by their wives, and it's just not right for either to be manipulating and abusing each other. Men should have control over how their spouse treats them and VICE VERSA.

I've seen a woman shouting at her husband in public while their children were watching nearby and crying. What I've heard was that the woman is the head of the household in this family because she the bread maker while her husband takes care of the children because he doesn't speak English and just came to America. What she was screaming at him about bothered the heck out of me ("you worthless this, you fukcing that", keep in mind that the husband is new to the US). The least I would've have done in his situation was drag that btch indoors where our children can't see, and slap her at least once to get her attention and then talk to her. Now, if it was the man who faulted, then I my reasoning wouldn't apply.

I DO NOT support abuse of any kind. Slapping and smacking are not meant to be abusive unless used too much and in the wrong state of mind. However, sometimes, it's just right to smack someone who deserves it. Maybe it's easier for me to say this because I'm a girl who would beat up other girls.... huh.gif
 
juliar
post Aug 11 2004, 05:16 PM
Post #15


3,565, you n00bs ain't got nothin' on me.
*******

Group: Official Member
Posts: 3,761
Joined: Feb 2004
Member No: 3,565



No one should hit each other.
And if they guy has a good enough reason, let them hit the woman.
But not for stupid reasons like, "Oh, she made my dinner late."
Or "She stuck her tongue out at me."
Yeah.
And if she's twice the guy's side, big deal. Point?
 
acidbreeze
post Aug 11 2004, 05:27 PM
Post #16


chri$
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,014
Joined: Jul 2004
Member No: 29,284



i smack girls playfully.
they do it to me too...
 
Fashionista225
post Aug 11 2004, 10:16 PM
Post #17


Senior Member
***

Group: Member
Posts: 80
Joined: Jul 2004
Member No: 31,071



About the twice the size thing.....I saw a girl hit a guy before and he didn't hit her back because she was a girl. But if you're a man and a girl that is your size or bigger hits you... would you still not hit them even thought she can beat you up?
 
Ze world is a Ma...
post Aug 13 2004, 07:11 PM
Post #18


¤ i havent been here much ¤
****

Group: Member
Posts: 133
Joined: Jul 2004
Member No: 34,018



QUOTE(airam @ Aug 10 2004, 11:12 PM)
a guy shouldnever hit a woman and a woman should never hit a guy.

but that doesnt really stop people from doing it.

yea no one should hit anyone for that matter
 
slurp
post Aug 13 2004, 07:21 PM
Post #19


Senior Member
*****

Group: Member
Posts: 875
Joined: Apr 2004
Member No: 13,841



personally, i think its wrong for guys to hit girls under any circumstances unless its really needed mellow.gif
 
Sumiaki
post Aug 13 2004, 10:03 PM
Post #20


NO WAI! R u Srs?
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,264
Joined: Jul 2004
Member No: 28,094



I believe it is wrong for either gender to abuse each other. I also find it wrong for a woman to manipulate a man with abuse.

Ex/ A man gets slapped or hit buy his wife. He hits her back. She goes to court because she was "abused" by her husband. Now, who do you think is going to win this case? You hear wife beater more often than husband beater.
 
inthemudhole
post Aug 14 2004, 12:45 AM
Post #21


Brie
********

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 10,172
Joined: Jun 2004
Member No: 20,548



Eh.
I don't think anyone deserves to be hit.
*shrugs*
I'm not like that.
Verbal abuse all the way, man.
Heh, if you're going to abuse someone.. do it verbally. *shrugs*
I'm not saying it's right that way either, but eh.
 
sikdragon
post Aug 14 2004, 05:21 AM
Post #22


Bardic Nation
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,113
Joined: Aug 2004
Member No: 38,059



my view may be a bit biased being irish and all. It depends on the situation, like if the man deserved to be hit then no. But if the woman is going to hit a man, then she should get hit like a man. In this messed up country of ours, it is no longer acceptable with assault and battery charges. this is what i believe take it or leave it.
 
sweetdreamsx3
post Aug 14 2004, 07:22 PM
Post #23


Senior Member
*******

Group: Member
Posts: 5,585
Joined: Aug 2004
Member No: 38,082



QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 10 2004, 11:19 PM)
Ladies should not hit guys because that will get them mad and they might retaliate in kind.

The only retaliation that my friend got was that she was dumped. whistling.gif
 
sikdragon
post Aug 15 2004, 03:48 AM
Post #24


Bardic Nation
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,113
Joined: Aug 2004
Member No: 38,059



did u even read my post?
 

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members: