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marijuana, legal?
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post Aug 13 2004, 04:48 PM
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i know there this topic about this in lounge but i wanted only serious reponses, and i'm asking something different anyway

do you think pot should be legal?
if yes, what good will come out of it?
do you aprove people using it?
have you ever tried it?

i tihnk it should be legal because there is good that will come out of it:
*it would be safer. people would not have to buy from dealers where they didn't know where it had come from.
*there really won't be any dealers. do you see alcohol and cigarettes dealers on the the side of street? you don't
*there would be less pressure to do it
*while the police are busting the marijuana deal, they are missing the crack or herion deal over the next street (okay, that's an exaggeration)
they could focus on the bigger issues.
*taxes!
*cigarettes and alcohol do more damage than marijuana, but they are legal
*most people don't it to be 'cool'. everyone has different effects on it. some peopel said they do it because it helps them eat, sleep, foucus, and get rid of stress.
*illegal drugs are more tempting to do, well i think.
*free up jail cells

what do you think?
 
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post Aug 13 2004, 06:29 PM
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I would like to quote Bob Burnquist and Jen O'brien on this one. And I quote:
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Marijuana can be used for fuel, for medicine, even for food. Oh yeah, it also makes people feel good. There is so much we can do with it.

I agree with what Burnquist and O'brien have to say about this, but I also agree with what the politicians say. They believe that if they legalize Marijuana, that it may lead people to start doing other drugs that are more harmful. Now that's the only point I agree with, I don't agree with the fact that it can kill people. Sure it can do so but cigarettes do that as well. They also say that it can be very harmful if you are driving under the influence . . . but doesn't alcohol do that as well? And aren't cigarettes and alcohol both legal?

So in conclusion, I say legalize it. The government should stop being greedy because they know that it's an plant and that they can't tax us on that.
 
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post Aug 14 2004, 01:11 AM
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do you think pot should be legal?
in some cases. like, medical maijuanna. other than that, no
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if yes, what good will come out of it?
medical purposes
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do you aprove people using it?
no i dont, only for medical purposes. if you do it for the heck of it, that it can lead to more other dangerous drugs
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have you ever tried it?

no
 
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post Aug 14 2004, 05:08 AM
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Post should be legal, by it's self it is harmless, aside from brain cells and tar. it is no more dangerous than drinking, and that is legal. Drinking is also the number one killer of people under thirty. But drinking is the cause of self-pity and that is what should be outlawed.
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(airam @ Aug 13 2004, 2:48 PM)
*free up jail cells

laugh.gif LOL I didn't read that before . . . you've got a point there.
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 05:07 PM
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All drugs should be legal ... at least in the privacy of your own homes. Enforcing laws against coercion is itself coercive, and does more harm than the behavior it seeks to prevent.

Drugs were legal until the late 60s. Since then the poverty rate has multipleid three fold and the murder rate twofold.
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 15 2004, 3:07 PM)
All drugs should be legal ... at least in the privacy of your own homes. Enforcing laws against coercion is itself coercive, and does more harm than the behavior it seeks to prevent.

Drugs were legal until the late 60s. Since then the poverty rate has multipleid three fold and the murder rate twofold.

I totally agree that making them illegal causes more harm.
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 05:54 PM
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All drugs should be legal. If people want to kill themselves faster it is their decision. I think its great.
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(th5418 @ Aug 15 2004, 3:54 PM)
All drugs should be legal. If people want to kill themselves faster it is their decision. I think its great.

If drugs were all about killing yourself . . . then why are some helpful?
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 06:02 PM
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if they do drugs legal then.... the crack heads are gonna try and get the kids to do it.... but after 20 years from now if it becomes legal now, no1 will be really do drugs cuz its legal and no1 cares and stuff... or something like that.
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(inlonelinessidie @ Aug 15 2004, 6:01 PM)
If drugs were all about killing yourself . . . then why are some helpful?

They are helpful, to a certain extent. Unless of course overdosing on Nyquil is helpful. But as of this moment, we are talking about the illegal ones.
 
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i dont think they should be legal, not even cigarrettes should be legal...at any ages. its bad for ur health, smokin em is just making yu die slow.
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 07:17 PM
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People killed by Marijuana: 0
People killed by government agents in the War on Drugs: 178 American Citizens since 1969, thousands of foreign nationals
People killed indirectly in the War on Drugs: Estimates between 20,000 and 40,000 a year.
Nonviolent people who do not belong in jail put in jail over the War on Drugs: 900,000 a year.
Property seized in the War on Drugs: $1.5 billion a year
Percentage of said property that belonged to individuals who were never convicted of a crime: 80%
Bill of Rights Amendments violated in the War on Drugs: 9

When you use drugs you only hurt yourself. Enforcing laws against drugs do MORE DAMAGE to you than the drugs themselves.
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 07:23 PM
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marijuana is basically illegal only when they see you have it in your hand.
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 15 2004, 7:17 PM)
People killed by Marijuana: 0
People killed by government agents in the War on Drugs: 178 American Citizens since 1969, thousands of foreign nationals
People killed indirectly in the War on Drugs: Estimates between 20,000 and 40,000 a year.
Nonviolent people who do not belong in jail put in jail over the War on Drugs: 900,000 a year.
Property seized in the War on Drugs: $1.5 billion a year
Percentage of said property that belonged to individuals who were never convicted of a crime: 80%
Bill of Rights Amendments violated in the War on Drugs: 9

When you use drugs you only hurt yourself. Enforcing laws against drugs do MORE DAMAGE to you than the drugs themselves.

Where in the hell did you get the first statistic?
Where in the hell did you get ANY statistic?
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 07:45 PM
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All statistics are from either The Constitution Society (www.constitution.org) or Ten Thigns You Can't Say in America by Larry Elder. The forfeiture statistics are from Forfeiture Endangers American Rights (FEAR -- a citizens' watch organization -- www.fear.org). The BIll of Rights is my own statistic. It's not hard to derive.
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 07:52 PM
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i think it should be legal. that way all these dumba$$ potheads won't think they're badass anymore so they'll stop. also, at this point in time, if it were to become legal, everyone who smokes it would go buy alot which would help the economy to some effect, right?

i'm way against it (as my siggy clearly states) and i want everyone to stop using it. people could be doing productive things, but they smoke pot instead. if we make it legal it wouldn't be as fun and no one would to it anymore, therfore i'm for it's legalization.

and i've never used it happy.gif
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 09:01 PM
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i think it would be ok for it to be legal cause it would take off some peer presure. but i also think people shud know how much to take and when is too much. cause it does mess you up.

no i have not tried it and im not planning on it
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 09:14 PM
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Sure, why not? As Minda said, the number of deaths has increased since drugs have been made illegal. Furthermore, we can use it for a number of things. *Points to previous posts* And if you want to abuse it, fine with me. Just don't get me involved with it. It's your decision to kill yourself. Heh. Same goes with smoking.
 
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post Aug 15 2004, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(inlonelinessidie @ Aug 13 2004, 6:29 PM)
I would like to quote Bob Burnquist and Jen O'brien on this one. And I quote:

I agree with what Burnquist and O'brien have to say about this, but I also agree with what the politicians say. They believe that if they legalize Marijuana, that it may lead people to start doing other drugs that are more harmful. Now that's the only point I agree with, I don't agree with the fact that it can kill people. Sure it can do so but cigarettes do that as well. They also say that it can be very harmful if you are driving under the influence . . . but doesn't alcohol do that as well? And aren't cigarettes and alcohol both legal?

So in conclusion, I say legalize it. The government should stop being greedy because they know that it's an plant and that they can't tax us on that.

I agree with you. Stole the words from my mouth...er...thoughts..?
 
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post Aug 17 2004, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 16 2004, 7:07 AM)
All drugs should be legal ... at least in the privacy of your own homes. Enforcing laws against coercion is itself coercive, and does more harm than the behavior it seeks to prevent.

Drugs were legal until the late 60s. Since then the poverty rate has multipleid three fold and the murder rate twofold.

i agree. and theres less pressure when itz legal instead of illegal yea?
 
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post Aug 17 2004, 04:50 PM
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Yeah... let's all just get stoned off our asses and lose all common sense. That's smart.
 
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post Aug 17 2004, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(omg_melface @ Aug 17 2004, 2:50 PM)
Yeah... let's all just get stoned off our asses and lose all common sense. That's smart.

lets all get drunk too
 
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post Aug 17 2004, 04:59 PM
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Yeah... let's all just get stoned off our asses and lose all common sense. That's smart.

Yeah, but the thing is, it'll be less appealing to people if it's not hard to get. Most people do it because they want to feel above the law and do something illegal.

Edit // Also, it'll be their decision to smoke it. I mean, it shouldn't matter...it won't affect you much, you know?
 
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post Aug 17 2004, 05:04 PM
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One joint has the same effect on your lungs than an entire pack of cigarettes does.... and it's a negative effect...

Marijuana being legal would be very stupid... I mean.. there goes all the potheads' lives, right? If they do marijuana and they get caught or locked up or some ****... then okay they are in there for a while and they have a chance to put their life back together...
 

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