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 Jun 20 2004, 12:18 PM
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What cam first, the Chicken or the Egg? In my opinion, I think the Chicken came first.
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Jun 20 2004, 12:30 PM
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theres been another topic on this
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Jun 20 2004, 12:36 PM
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oh sorry.
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Jun 20 2004, 09:08 PM
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dude, where's your brain? Group: Member Posts: 47 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,426 |
The egg. It's a fact.
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Jun 21 2004, 08:10 AM
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 .Summa Mam`ii, Group: Member Posts: 93 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 11,460 |
The egg, a chicken cant be born w.o an egg,duhhh?
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Jul 9 2004, 12:26 PM
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 dizzy me up. Group: Member Posts: 3,191 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 11,139 |
hahah but if the egg came first, who born dat egg?
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Jul 9 2004, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE hahah but if the egg came first, who born dat egg? An egg was laid by another species that had a mutation.. the mutation was found favorable by the environment and survived to become what is now known as the chicken while the original species died out.. thus the egg came before the chicken |
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Jul 9 2004, 01:13 PM
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 NO WAI! R u Srs? Group: Member Posts: 1,264 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,094 |
QUOTE An egg was laid by another species that had a mutation.. the mutation was found favorable by the environment and survived to become what is now known as the chicken while the original species died out.. thus the egg came before the chicken EGGsactly!!!! 
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Jul 9 2004, 01:15 PM
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 await the end Group: Member Posts: 47 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,387 |
QUOTE An egg was laid by another species that had a mutation.. the mutation was found favorable by the environment and survived to become what is now known as the chicken while the original species died out.. thus the egg came before the chicken well then the first "prototype" or w/e you wanna call it of the chicken was the other species with the mutation which laid the egg, even technically it wasnt exactly a chicken it had to have the correct genes to lay an actual chicken |
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Jul 9 2004, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE well then the first "prototype" or w/e you wanna call it of the chicken was the other species with the mutation which laid the egg, even technically it wasnt exactly a chicken it had to have the correct genes to lay an actual chicken No.. it was another species.. not a chicken.. If you want to be technical and argue that the chicken came before the chicken egg... then sure, I agree.. but eggs were in existence far longer than chickens were |
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Jul 9 2004, 10:39 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 9 2004, 1:20 PM) No.. it was another species.. not a chicken.. If you want to be technical and argue that the chicken came before the chicken egg... then sure, I agree.. but eggs were in existence far longer than chickens were What if... The chicken was the mutation, as opposed to the egg being the mutation? That way, the chicken was mutated into... the chicken and they laid the egg? Uh.. I actually don't know if that's possible. Ignore me. |
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Jul 9 2004, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE What if... The chicken was the mutation, as opposed to the egg being the mutation? That way, the chicken was mutated into... the chicken and they laid the egg? Uh.. I actually don't know if that's possible. Ignore me. Yeah.. I dont think that's possible.. There'd have to be extremely unusual circumstances for that to happen.. and I'm still not sure natural selection works that way.. |
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Jul 9 2004, 10:57 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 9 2004, 10:40 PM) There'd have to be extremely unusual circumstances for that to happen.. and I'm still not sure natural selection works that way.. With natural selection, I think the chicken have a better chance of surviving and protecting its egg and chicks. While the egg is practically useless... well.. except for the proteins... but that's another story. |
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Jul 9 2004, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE With natural selection, I think the chicken have a better chance of surviving and protecting its egg and chicks. While the egg is practically useless... well.. except for the proteins... but that's another story. Err.. I dont think you get it.. Its not comparing the chicken or the egg.. its comparing the chicken and the species that came before it.. Some mutation in the eggs of the previous species was obviously favorable and thus the species died out and the chicken survived |
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Jul 9 2004, 11:06 PM
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Chickegg
It's like saying what came first the baby or the adult. Which will later bring the whole topic of God or Evolution |
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Jul 9 2004, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE Chickegg It's like saying what came first the baby or the adult. Which will later bring the whole topic of God or Evolution Erm... what? I'm confused.. how does this tie into religion? |
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Jul 9 2004, 11:09 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 9 2004, 11:02 PM) Err.. I dont think you get it.. Er, 'fraid I don't  . QUOTE Its not comparing the chicken or the egg.. its comparing the chicken and the species that came before it. Some mutation in the eggs of the previous species was obviously favorable and thus the species died out and the chicken survived But you know what I noticed? When they make movies where something is created (alien or mutated life form), that creation usually is in the form of its earliest stage... |
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Jul 9 2004, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE But you know what I noticed? When they make movies where something is created (alien or mutated life form), that creation usually is in the form of its earliest stage... Haha.. that would be Hollywood What do you mean by earliest stage? You're talking radical mutation.. natural selection utilizes gradual mutation |
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Jul 9 2004, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 9 2004, 9:07 PM) Erm... what? I'm confused.. how does this tie into religion? lol not the chicken thing. The whole adult human vs baby human thing . . . eh nevermind 
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Jul 9 2004, 11:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
QUOTE lol not the chicken thing. The whole adult human vs baby human thing . . . eh nevermind Erm... ok then! 
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Jul 9 2004, 11:15 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 9 2004, 11:11 PM) What do you mean by earliest stage? You're talking radical mutation.. natural selection utilizes gradual mutation Okay, you're talking gibberish... because I don't seem to understand those words... g-r-a-d-u-a-l mutation.... I meant they grow test tube babies into adults, and little furbies grew up to be ugly and killer furbies... i can't seem to remember one valid example... ignore me, please. |
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Jul 9 2004, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE Okay, you're talking gibberish... because I don't seem to understand those words... g-r-a-d-u-a-l mutation.... I meant they grow test tube babies into adults, and little furbies grew up to be ugly and killer furbies... i can't seem to remember one valid example... ignore me, please. Haha sorrie Basically what I'm saying is that in the movies, something is mutated some way to create this radically different (and usually dangerous) new species In real life, it doesnt work that way.. Mutations are very gradual.. some huge change (like fish to land) simply doesnt happen.. it takes several steps.. several thousand years of natural selection weeding out the weak for the favorable mutations to dominate and thrive while the unfavorable die off |
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Jul 10 2004, 02:32 AM
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NO WAI! R u Srs? Group: Member Posts: 1,264 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,094 |
Geeze dont you guys recall Darwin in bio class? Deeng seriously.
1. They adapt to conditions 2. There are mutations (sometimes good sometimes bad) The beneficial mutated ones live because they are "better" than their ancestor. Think of it as competition. As the ancestors die off, the mutated ones become the norm. The cycle keeps goin and goin. Mutations are natural, like animals with more arms/legs and such. You just dont see alot of em around cuz the extra arm/leg is usually useless. I can go on and on but ill stop here. 
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Jul 10 2004, 02:33 AM
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egg.. because.. chickens come from eggs
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Jul 10 2004, 05:09 AM
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Well....the chicken needs to be born from an egg but then an egg needs to come out from the chicken......so....it would be neither....rite?
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