Yes it does. Not only does an abortion hurt really, really bad, it also costs money.

outlawed under certain circumstances.
such as rape, or the mother is not PHYSICALLY able.
and there should be PROOF. hardcore proof.
if you're 14 and did it with your boyfriend and got prego, DEAL WITH IT, if you are physically able to give birth.
those are the only circumstances i believe in.
there's too many whores running around these days.
save the abortion causes for people who need them, not just because you like to have sex without protection.

I think your logic MorbidAngel with the "DEAL WITH IT" comment isn't great. Children are not only a responsibility, but are also considered a gift in a sense. There are many couples who cannot even have a child of there own due to some unfortunate circumstance. Is it really fair to have a child seen has a burden? Not all teens will just rise up and say "Oh i have to be responsible now and take care of a kid, even if I'm a kid myself" no, doesn't work like that at all. They'll probably leave the poor child with there parents. Financially it'll be a burden on the entire family. Hell, we don't know the entire situation. Proof? What kind of proof are you talking about. It's hard to prove the condom broke if you throw it away afterwards.

I'm pro-choice. Kids shouldn't be seen as burdens or punishments. They deserve a good life and be able to be financially supported and taken care of.

I can understand why so many people turn to abortion as an easy way out, but i say No.

i agree.
BUT.
i was saying "deal with it" to the fact that they need to accept the consequences, instead of taking the easy way out through abortion, not the actual fact that they're having a child.
and my proof was the rape part. there's GOT to be a more logic and detailed way of testing for rape these days.

How about date rape? They don't know they're being raped til it's too late, and it's not like they resist.

hmm, never thought about the date rape thing.
ok, i don't know about that part...

abortion should be made legal, in my opinion to prevent the following:
1. illegal, unsafe abortions - because it will happen

2. young women from killing their babies/abandoning them

a bit off topic, but have any of you guys read the book freakonomics? the author talks about how the legalization of abortion led to lower crime rates in the 1990s. thought provoking.

^Could that be because aborted children don't have the opportunity to be raised in a poor environment, having little to nothing, possibly suffering from abuse, resorting to crime?

yeah, exactly. the statistics the author gave nicely fits the theory, too.

BUMP.

Because I haven't had a good debate in awhile.

I got a question that I wanted mulled over.

Right now, abortions that are legal are not partial birth abortions.

When is the right time limit if abortions are legal? Before 1st trimester? 2nd?

According to Webmd, a fetus isn't even called a fetus until the 12th week of development when it develops nearly all the organs a human has (although they don't function fully).

you're more likely to drown if you've just eaten a watermellon.

correlation != causation.

Only abortion I would agree to, is abortion allowed to females who were rape victims.

Not to irresponsible people. You wanna be adult enough to sleep with someone, be adult enough to handle the consequences.

That is all I have to say.

I think if you`re gonna go through the pain of having an abortion, you might as well have the damn thing. Then give it someone who really wants it.

I don't approve of abortion. Why? Simple. Why kill a human life when you can hand it over to someone who DOES want a kid (even if it's not their own) who cannot make one? Bless someone with happiness. Also, why kill a innocent life that didn't even do anything to you, but the fault of you not keep your pants on or not wearing a damn condom (or perhaps birth control or something that'll help lower the risk of pregnancy). It's something that I would never approve of. That life that you killed could have found a cure for cancer, a cure for HIV, AIDS, but you would never know because the kid's gone now.

^There's also a chance the fetus could be the next Adolf Hitler or be a serial killer.

I had to quote you on this... and I fully agree with you.

Problem is, pro-choice tend to use the excuse of; "well what if the condom breaks? That's not our fault"

"What if the birth control failed?"

Fact of the matter is... you fornicated as responsible adults would. Now step up to the plate and be responsible.

You don't plan on havin kids? Then don't fornicate until you're ready, that's how it goes.

^I'm prochoice. I understand that people make mistakes. They should be responsible but noone ever does what they should.

I just don't think it's right for me or anyone else to decide what someone else should do with their body. If I say women don't have rights to their body and reproduction, I'm essentially depriving myself of any type of rights to my own.

It's a two way street. You take someone else's rights away, you give up your own.

I am agaisnt abortion. I mean, if you do get raped. (Which I hope you don't.) Please, why don't you just carry it for 9 months and put him/her up for adoption if you can't care for it. Its really not an easy thing to do. [Abortion] I think that women should know what the baby goes through to be "aborted" before aborting their child. Its just really sick if you research the procedures they have to do. Its basically like killing somebody, and I hate hate hate when they say "its not even a baby yet." It has fingernails and it can hear you singing in the shower up to the first few months. I don't know why, I'm just really against it.

i duno why a woman should have to go through 9 months of that and risk her health for something she didn't consent to at all.

Raped women are a toughie because I don't exactly know what to say. But I suppose you're right. I'm agaisnt it but it really is up to the mothers decision and what she wants to do with her life. I just want women who are getting abortions to really know what they do to the kid, tis all.

i'm prochoice. i just don't think the government should be telling women what they can and can't do with their bodies. i don't think it should be used as birth control or something, but in some cases, i don't think it should banned.

The option should always be open. (It would be weird to ban it.) But I agree with you. I don't understand why they think government should have control over you giving birth or not.

So you admit that in a sense that's complete selfishness. To murder a human being that belongs to you and your body, because it's your body.

Even though you knew for a fact that there's a percentage or a possibility that you could get pregnant. Yeah?


Let's clarify what selfishness is, for the young and uneducated:

selfishness:
1. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.

2. characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself: selfish motives.

3. concerned chiefly or only with oneself

4. stinginess resulting from a concern for your own welfare and a disregard of others




If she wouldn't consent to it, then why the hell would she fornicate in the first place?