Then I would say that, to make it legal, it would have to be reported to the police, and produce a police report to the abortion clinic.

People don't always report it because sometimes they're scared or their lives are threatened or they were young, like in high school. Maybe they had an abusive boyfriend and he raped them. Maybe they're embarrassed and feel at fault for their "weakness". You can't just assume everything is reported cause it's not.

LOL I knew this would come up eventually. I hate to be the one and only brutal a-hole, but that's their problem. If they're not gonna report it to the police, (which is obviously the smart idea, threat or no threat) then no abortion for them.

I know I know... I'm such an a-hole, but oh well.. it's not like it'll happen anyways

^Easier said than done. Rape is a traumatic thing and can psychologically scar someone.

I think abortions should be allowed. This is a right that should be reserved for the parents OR mother of the fetus.

It is not something that I think should replace using protection while having sex, but I do think that it should be there as a last resort if someone does get pregnant by an accident, rape, or even sheer stupidity. There are back-door (or whatever that term is) abortions out there, and those are disgusting and unsterilized; it is not something that females should have to deal with if they cannot handle having a baby. People say that it is possible to just give it up for adoption, but being pregnant does take a lot away from women, too. It takes away job times, health (for a while), and a lot of energy.

I think that the government should allow abortions. It is the woman's final choice on whether she believes it is right or wrong, not everyone else's.

I love how you make this sound so f**king easy.If your woman got raped more than 50 percent of the time shes gonna feel dirty,violated and she may never tell you because she might think that you will stop loving her less or look at her as dirty..She may never tell the police because again,she may feel people look down at her.Again,you are not a women nor have you ever been raped so you have never felt that emotion of feeling so small in the world,so vulnerable,and to feel afterwards that you have to trust a man intimately again..To sit there and say its "obviously the smart idea" in a sense is tasteless because again.Not every woman is gonna want to run to the police right away because of what happened.This is why this kind of thing like abortion should only be at the hands of women only because its a womans body and her choice to do what she wishes and its women not men who go through the changes of pregnancy that depending on the circumstances,may not be capable of doing.

And Im not saying that shes (your girlfriend) is automaticly going to think that,But I know that thats how most of us (women) would think in times like that.

No it's not. Trust me.

He's right. It is their problem. Do something about it, or don't do anything at all and suffer the consequences. I'm not saying that the victim is the one to blame, but they can do something about it. Some people choose not to. Oh, well.

Abortion is wrong anyway. So, don't do it.

How is not? I know this girl who got raped when she was a pre-teen, and she has had nightmares almost every night since then, and she refuses to wear clothes that show any "sexual" part of her body. This seems to be signs of some damage to herself and her mind.

Edit: I will also add in your defense that she has begun to get over it recently; she's more social and willing to wear more female clothing.

It should be illegal with exceptions for rape and when having a baby could kill the woman.

When someone becomes pregnant, thats a life inside of their body--a life that is not part of the mother's body. Since this embryo has different DNA from the mom, he/she is NOT part of the mother's body. Every other cell in the woman has the same DNA, so why should the embryo she is carrying, that doesnt have the same DNA in his/her cells, be considered part of her body?

The embryo is a beginning of a human life. By having an abortion, this life is killed. If someone decides to have an abortion, they are keeping someone from experiencing life and all its ups and downs. You know the saying, "Better have loved and lost, than to never to have loved at all"? Wouldn't it also be true to say, "Better to have lived and lost, that to never have lived at all"?

I think that people who are against abortion that believe the woman should put up the baby for adoption should adopt all the babies were unwanted. That way, everyone is happy.

Fathomless, are you saying that the people who can't afford to give the baby a good upbringing should have the baby, going through all the emotional and physical pain, and always knowing that they wanted the abortion on the baby but it was illegal?

If they can't afford the baby, they should not be forced to have it, as it could only further the circle of poverty in that child.

Sure people should be careful, and should be on the pill or use condoms, but what happens in those times when it's broken or that .01% comes to life? Also what's to stop people from alleging that they were raped? If rape was the only way out, I'm sure the rape rate would skyrocket.

by taking away a woman's rights to make the decision for herself, i hope you know you're setting a precendent that no woman, and further more, no body, has their own bodily rights. so before you remove the choice from millions of women, are you ready to tell the government that people, including yourself, don't have soverignity over their own body? you would think this doesn't correlate but the argument for choice is that women have rights to their own body and it's their choice. you remove that right and that choice you effectively eliminate bodily rights, something that is already vague in the Constitution.

so before you take away the rights from someone else, how willing are you to have yours put in jeopardy?

jakeKking and tamacracker - rape is not own a crime against a victim's physical being but also her (sometimes his) emotional/mental being. not reporting it is not "their problem". same reason why many kids don't report being molest. rape is such a violation of a person that you can't say that it is their fault for not reporting.

there is no choice. there is no choice in rape and what a victim can do afterwards. coming forward with rape involves even more violation. so please don't disrespect what a victim has to go through by saying "she should've reported it."

Adoption.

As for the reporting to the police, like I said... if the girl doesn't report it, oh f**kin well. Do you know how many law suits go around this country for shit that's just as mentally f**ked as getting raped?


And yes I know how women get all emotional and shit... but this is their lives, not only did they get raped, but they're gonna let the rapist get away, AND have the rapist's kid. C'mon man... give me a damn break.

And anyone using the excuse of being poor and can't bring up a kid so they need to abort it, needs to be executed. Obviously they're irresponsible enough to have unprotected sex and are willing to murder or ruin the life of their child.

Not because the child deserved it, but because the parents are useless human beings. Who in my eyes should deserve their heads drilled, their brains liquidized, and then sucked out.


You're gonna use the mind of a child to justify this?... Kid doesn't know if this is normal or not... not until they grow older and realize that was something wrong for sure.

Ah well... I'm sorry I don't understand emotions of others. Some people are extremely emotional... and some can keep their mind together enough to be realistic and realize it's not the end of the world.

Keep in mind, I'm pretty much apathetic about humans, depending on the situation of course.

Would YOU be willing to adopt all the children who come from families who should not have the babies? B/c if you are, then sure! Make abortion illegal.

As long as there's people who cannot get pregnant... that's always an option for them. A kid livin in an adaption home or whatever, is better than living in military school or a religious school.

Would I adopt a kid? If I can't get my girl pregnant... you bet.

Oh God, so many idiots in this world.

The thing is there are people who cannot get pregnant, yet we have so many orpans. We have gay couples and infertile couples, and there are still babies without homes. I'm not sure how great living in an adoption home is - have you lived in one before? Because it seems to me that a lot of kids do not like the prospect of living in one.

Oh well... abortion will always be illegal anyways, deal with it

You mean LEGAL.

Gay couples are just a form of population control, scientifically speaking at least, so it's better not to mention them in this. They're candidates for adopting don't get me wrong.

Infertile couples have their choice as well, if they want to be responsible for a child or not.

And no I've never lived in one...

Listen the world can never be perfect. And sadly, a human who thinks it's better to murder a child (who for all we know could have been a scientist for God sake) than to give birth to the child and put him/her up for adoption so that at least he/she has a chance to get a great family.

Could you list me some things that seem so wrong about adoption? And the buildings in which these adopted kids live in? Cuz from what I see... they eat well, they get educated, they go on field trips, they celebrate holidays.




In cases of rape or a threat to life

Tamacracker, abortion is legal. I don't know where you live but in the United States people get abortions when they want them.

So you're saying abortions are illegal right now?

It is not everyone's opinion that abortion means "murder."

I do not think anything is wrong with adoption; I think it is incorrect to believe that placing unwanted children under the care of people with only so much is the right thing to do - not to mention stripping the mother of many things (which have been previously mentioned, so do not ask what I meant by that). I did not say that being in an adoption home was terrible, but you have never lived in one as well. I said this: "a lot of kids do not like the prospect of living in one." I think that living in a building and waiting for someone to come pick them up everyday like a pound is somewhat depressing.

Basically, my point is that, sure, it is possible to put up babies for adoption as another choice besides abortion, but there are not enough people adopting. Like I originally said, if everyone who is against abortion was willing to completely, fully, and deeply care and raise children who were meant to be aborted, then I have would have absolutely no issue with making abortion illegal. :] Unfortunately, that is not true. I doubt that most of the people who are against abortion would be willing to adopt the number of fetuses that need to be aborted.

The reason I think abortion should be illegal because two many people abuse it. Some women abort their child because their not ready to have a child. If your not ready don't have sex.

Daaaamn really? They should bomb more abortion clinics then, where are the Christian terrorists at?

I thought it was in cases of rape or a threat to life!

Damn America's Karma is going down the shitter :D





Uh oh yeah, good point, some where in there.

LOL I just found out America legalized abortion for whatever the reason may be! I gotta tell this one to my mom next time I speak with her.



LOL Abortion is a penalty by death... This is justified. If it's abortion in cases of rape or a threat to life, that's a whole different story, it's legal.