^ exactly what I was thinking, I remember bringing that up once and someone said they didn't care..

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Actually,
You'd be surprised at how many people are there that are older than 13, and 12.
In the "Roleplay" Section of Neopets, there's alot of Mature people, raging from ages 13-19.
Honestly though,
They DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER.

To be honest, while this may increase traffic, I'm not entirely sure what it will do for CB's reputation as a design site, given that the layouts are so basic... And again, the age range of the members who may be attracted to the site would be a concern, although I WOULD point out that if people sign the thing saying that they are 13, then it ceases to be Cb's responsibility.

And if it would bring in new members, then why not. I don't object to the idea in principle, I just don't really think that the amount of hassle which would be caused would really be balanced by the benefits. On balance, I would abstain from a vote, but those are my two-cents

I don't think it should be offered, as James said it would bring down CB's reputation as a design site.

Besides if we did neopets then we would have to go GJ and all of the other sites that have been proposed. It's not worth the hassle.

To submit layotus, you do have to register. :]

You brought it up to me, and I said I really didn't care... Honestly, are all the people on CB 13+... f**k no! There are plenty of people who lie about their age on this site... xD I mean, C'mon now! Alright, I know that the majority of the people on this site are 13+, but there are definitely people who lie.

By the way, you're all wrong about the average age of people on the neopets website:
From the official company info site:HERE


60% of Neopet's 1,000,000+ members are over 13 years of age. Please stop shilling BS and start stating facts. Yes, Neopets does allow younger children to join the site, but the majority of those members are 13+. Also, I doubt the majority of members who are younger than 13 years of age will be surfing the web for information regarding HTML for their Neopets layouts.

Well, I guess I completely overlooked that fact. Just can't judge a book by its cover, eh.

Besides the age then, the layout designs for Neopets appear very simple (or maybe I'm overlooking that too ). Just designs I wouldn't usually see featured on createBlog. Perhaps a thread describing how to go about making a Neopets layout, but a whole gallery of layouts, not really; but maybe that's just me.

Though, I can see how Neopets could bring plenty of traffic here.

May be simple, but just like myspace... can become extremely complicated. Yes I'm sure that many of the layouts you have seen may be sub par, but you also have to take into consideration that 30,000,000+ members belong to the site. Each one of those members has their own layout that. Most of those members don't care enough to actually make a complicated layout. Maybe, the members that actually do care will join CB. There has to be at least a couple million of them.

Well, I understand that the facts support you're statement that it's not such a risk with the age thing, but do those stats take into account the age of the active members? I know that the highest percentage is the 13-17 block, but that may be just a result of members playing it when they were younger and abandoning it later on.

And some, uh, :

(AndthisthreadhasmadememissmypoorNeopet: luvydubbywubbyblah )

Does anyone know if it's possible to make something like a DIV layout on Neopets?

Right, this would really make a difference. I think it's a good thing you brought this up.

Well, if anyone could see if that's possible, that'd be great. If you can I'm sure the designs could become even more complex and at that point, I wouldn't really have much of a problem with Neopets being featured here.

Then maybe even have a "Neopets layout revolution."

f**k the age.

Let's give a try.

If it doesnt go well, screw it.

Time On Site:
An average of 5 hours 24 minutes per month [comScore Media Metrix - July 2006].
Ranked 2nd on the entire Internet.

The average user spends 5 hours and 24 minutes per month. It seems as if members on the site are pretty active. I see your point, and I'm going through the youth studies that Neopets has offered it's members... hopefully they will provided some data as to what demo graphics took the study. At the moment I have come up with this:

In 2002 80% of the people who participated in the survey were 18 years old and under (roughly 12,000).

This means that about 3000 of them were over 18 years of age. These people are all active users (active enough to take the youth survey). With such a large number of responses the margin of error is very low. This is a fairly accurate representation of what the demographic for the active user over age of 18 would be.

This also corresponds with the percentage of users over 18 being 21% (2006). Yes, I know that this was in 2004, but Neopets has only grown since then. The demographic probably hasn't changed. I can only imagine that the active members who are 13+ would still hold about 60% of the websites active population.


That's about 18,000,000 people... even if you cut that by 75% to get a guesstimate of how many active members their are it's still 4,500,000 people. I think that it would boost traffic to the site like crazy.

Well Josh wanted me to post the types of layouts you can make that I suppose look like divs.

These are the best ones I found, the others are really crappy so if you don't know what your doing its not going to look right, I've coded with neopets before when I was like 12 and played it constantly. Its not that hard I tell you and if we do get this idea I'll make a tutorial and what ever needs to be done..


http://www.neopets.com/randomfriend.phtml?...ippiechickie_18
- div-ish

http://www.neopets.com/randomfriend.phtml?user=yardena210
- make it cute

http://neopets.com/randomfriend.phtml?user=thisconfession
- could look a ton better with better graphics but the coding is simple for this one, its on my own thing.


Neopet has updated their coding and stuff so you can't use some style tags and other things, but the use of regular divs is really simple to get around the problem

Does someone know if there would there be a problem with using images that might be subject to copyright laws for the purpose of increasing CreateBlog's user base?

Also quantity rarely ever means quality, Gaiaonline's 5.1 million and growing user base being a fantastic example for this.

Really, Xanga is/was full of teenagers too.

A div?
Well, I mananged to make one similiar, but not exactly like a DIV for Myspace.

I don't think that the copyright laws would be violated. Neopets.com isn't going press charges on a website that encourages people to use their website. There are plenty of Neopets layout websites on the web containing hoards of copyrighted character usage within them.

I emailed the neopets legal department, and they should be getting back to me soon.

Right, and same thing with the users browsing Myspace.com and Xanga. Seriously, there are at least a million little kids browsing both of those sires. There is no way to prove the quality of the users that will join the site. I think that the current CB environment (which, in my opinion, isn't very open minded) will definitely filter out the "quality" members, whatever your definition of "quality" may be.

We would also be using neopets layouts to encourage people to visit Createblog.com, and here's where the problem could be seen. It'd be interesting to check that with the Admin team, if anything just because intellectual property laws can be tricky like that.

My other concern is Createblog being swallowed by a landslide of the average unoriginal internet thinking present in all of the huge internet communities out there, in all of their forms.

I emailed them, and as soon as they get back to me, I'll post the reply.

I don't think that it will, createblog has it's way of shunning members that aren't creative or original. I've seen it happen over and over again.

^ The average time that it takes for them to get back at you is 6 months. I'm not sure if you are willing to wait that long for an answer.

Right now on Createblog, there are a couple of 10 and 11 year olds already, even though they say on the registration form, they are 13. Kids are going to lie if they can get what they want.

Besides, doing this will be good for both sites, as some one stated already.

Lmao.

Stupid neopets kids will spread drama.

I'm not for this, then again my opinon matters not.

Also, Neopets limits you, graphic wise.

They have very strict rules.

And you wouldn't be able to direct link to createblog, or your own design website, seeing as how that's not allowed.

No, your opinion does matter! Don't ever say that on this website!

Explain what you mean... your statements are shallow (there isn't reason or proof behind each statement)... spiff em' up and I'll reply

And, also.
There's alot of people on there WHO Graphic design! I'll even give you some links.

http://petpages.neopets.com/~PariisLiights

Who are forced to host their things on petpages.
http://petpages.neopets.com/~atomiclover

http://www.neopets.com/~miniskirtx122