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 Aug 2 2006, 04:38 AM
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The prospect of killing babies is just too boneriffic to oppose. Yes, abortion should be legal in the United States.
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Aug 2 2006, 10:48 AM
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 daughter of sin Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 |
QUOTE(xnarcotic @ Aug 2 2006, 5:20 AM)  as much as everyone is making their points about the adoption thing, would you want to give up a child that you`ve bonded with over the 9 months it has been in your womb? a lot of people on this forum have made the idea of having an abortion easy. it isn`t. you don`t know what it`s like until you`ve been there. and i have been there. and really, i don`t care how much hate mail or anything you want to give me over it. i had to make my choice because i have medical problems, and i didn`t feel like dying over having a child. and with what everyone is saying, i`m guessing a lot of you are probably 15 or 16 without the slightest f**king clue on what REAL life is. wait until you`re stuck with a decision like this and then see how EASY it is to give a child you`ve bonded with away, or take care of that child. have fun on welfare. and have fun working 3 jobs. i hate you closed minded f**king people. riding around on your high horses like you`ve never done something bad in your life. you don`t think 99% of the people who get abortions hate what they had to do? you`re dead wrong. yeah, some people use it as a birth control method, but the people who honestly NEED it so they can live a good life don`t go a day without thinking about what they did. i know i do. not a DAY goes by without me thinking about that decision. so don`t f**king go around saying that anyone who has an abortion is a piece of shit. because if you do, you`re even more of a piece of shit than them. you ignorant fucks.  Thank you. |
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Aug 2 2006, 11:22 AM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 2,614 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,903 |
Depends the situation. If the woman is raped. Then, Yes. The more I think about it the more I don't think I would ever do it even if I got raped. I woulden't be able to kill a baby because its not there fault. Just the thought of killing somthing makes me have chills.
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Aug 2 2006, 01:00 PM
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daughter of sin Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 |
^ Only, it's not murder because it's not a human being.. it's a potential human being. But I guess different people feel different about it.
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Oct 26 2006, 04:07 PM
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 Nikkie Group: Member Posts: 2,336 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,991 |
i am prochoice. and it should be legal.
it always depends on their situation, i know people who have had abortions due to numerous reasons and it was the right choice for them. gotta do an essay on this. nice to see what people's persepectives are on this topic. |
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Oct 29 2006, 12:47 AM
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look for the stars as the sun goes down Group: Member Posts: 493 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 453,963 |
It should not be illegal. Cuz it's their choice and if they want to get rid of the unborn then they go right ahead. Even if it's wrong it's still their choice. I find it selfish of the people that want to make abortion illegal. It should be made legal and the woman can make her own choice. it's not like all women would choose abortion. abortion is an option that woman can choose if she becomes pregnant. cuz if abortion is illegal the pregnant lady would have NO choic but to give birth to the baby. or even try doing an abortion themselves which could do serious harm to her body and even kill her.
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Nov 4 2006, 03:04 AM
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 Watch This Group: Member Posts: 886 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 118,408 |
I hate the very Idea of it. But once again, we shall not have disorganized clutter in these forums so....Next opinion!!
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Nov 7 2006, 04:14 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,480 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 444,349 |
i think that it should be legal because it's their choice. we shouldn't be able to chose what a women does with her body. most people that apose abortion are men. all of them will never be pregnant and therefore never even have to deal with this.
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Nov 14 2006, 02:02 PM
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 Death is a promise given to us at birth Group: Official Designer Posts: 4,757 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,459 |
yes, it should.
If you give life to something, you should be able to take it away. That's my motto. If my kids backstabbed me. I put them where they belong. |
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| *kryogenix* |
Nov 15 2006, 07:58 PM
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Gotta love euphemisms. Choice sounds much better than baby killing. Partial Birth abortion sounds so much better than cracking skulls and sucking brains out with a vacuum.
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Nov 15 2006, 11:16 PM
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 Sing to Me Group: Member Posts: 1,825 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,808 |
^ actually, partial birth was a term coined by pro-LIFE supports. it's humanely disturbing to hear 'partial birth' because birth connotates being brought into this world and alive. partial makes you think that the baby only made it halfway.
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Nov 16 2006, 02:04 AM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 15 2006, 6:58 PM) Gotta love euphemisms. Choice sounds much better than baby killing. Partial Birth abortion sounds so much better than cracking skulls and sucking brains out with a vacuum. pro-life is a euphemism in itself. Pro-life people aren't really pro-life. They could probably care less about lives of people in Darfur. It's a euphemism for Anti-choice, because Anti-choice just sounds to negative. on the same note, don't argue that pro-choice is actually anti-life. pro choicers don't hate life. they want the choice, hence the name. |
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| *kryogenix* |
Nov 16 2006, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Nov 16 2006, 2:04 AM) pro-life is a euphemism in itself. Pro-life people aren't really pro-life. They could probably care less about lives of people in Darfur. It's a euphemism for Anti-choice, because Anti-choice just sounds to negative. on the same note, don't argue that pro-choice is actually anti-life. pro choicers don't hate life. they want the choice, hence the name. That's quite a blanket statement. And I wouldn't call pro life being anti choice. I'm pro choice as well. I'm for the woman choosing when she has sex. Whereas, undergoing a process which kills a baby is pretty anti life to me. The word life itself is not a euphemism. I'll admit both sides are putting their little spin on it, but I feel pro life is a more accurate description. |
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Nov 17 2006, 01:27 AM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
pro life is just not an accurate name. certainly pro life people aren't for all life, are they? some might be, but based on the pro- life stereotype, i doubt it.
yes, i guess pro choice may be inaccurate as well. but you can't say that pro- life is very accurate... |
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| *yrrnotelekktric* |
Nov 20 2006, 03:12 PM
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it`s entirely up to the woman; although i could never have one.
first of all, i would have the sense not to have a child when i wasnt ready for it. but hey, whateves. |
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Dec 29 2006, 09:03 PM
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 hardxcore. Group: Member Posts: 1,223 Joined: Nov 2006 Member No: 479,494 |
I think abortion is definetly wrong, but I don't think it should be banned. If the mother of the baby is so selfish that she is willing to KILL a helpless & innocent baby that has done nothing, then the baby would be better off in Heaven rather than in this awful world with a mother who will most likely have sex & have an abortion again. But there are other situations that I could understand. The song "What It's Like" By Everlast gives a very good point of view on this subject. I do have a "friend" that has had an abortion. No, I do not agree with it, but it was her decision to make & if I were in her shoes I might've done the same thing, depending on the situation. You can never judge someone until you walk a mile in their shoes to find out what it's like. Rape is a different story though. Say, if you are a teenager & you are raped, I think that is is still bad, but you can't really help it if you aren't responsible enough. It wasn't your choice or fault that you got pregnant in that circumstance, it just happened like that & I am pretty sure that you will not be punshied for it in that case. I can also understand if you had a very high change of dieing while in the process of giving birth[[possibly the baby as well]],although I think if I were in that situation I would still attempt it.
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Jan 3 2007, 01:40 PM
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 The one man Voltron Group: Member Posts: 711 Joined: Dec 2006 Member No: 491,519 |
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 16 2006, 1:58 AM) Gotta love euphemisms. Choice sounds much better than baby killing. Partial Birth abortion sounds so much better than cracking skulls and sucking brains out with a vacuum. Euphemisms work both ways, it seems. What with Conan the Gynecologist, and all that. There are fetal abnormalities that could suppose the death of the mother and/or the children which can only be detected in the later stages of pregnancy (such as hydrocephalia); I guess in those cases it would seem reasonable to perform a D&E abortion, an early induced labor, or a D&X abortion if medical advice suggests so. The procedure is dangerous, that's a given, and represents a small fraction of the abortions performed (for obvious reasons). However, this would be a case where abortion should remain an option, yet conditioned to medical expert opinion IMO. The key of the abortion debate seems to reside in reasoned moderation rather than in moral convenience. |
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Jul 12 2007, 01:53 PM
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im' edible Group: Member Posts: 1,529 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 23,022 |
All I have to say is:
ABORTION HURTS LIKE SHIT. And it looks gross, so if you want to abort a child, then please be prepared. Let me think of some instances where abortion might be necessary: Well, in cases such as incest, the baby will either be very messed up when it's born or it will die in the womb because it didn't have the ability to survive. So either way, the baby is screwed. For drunken mistakes, well, that's really too bad. Honestly, both parties involved need to take responsibility if they're going to get intoxicated in the first place. As for a form of protection, that's just stupid. Use a freaking condom or diaphragm. Or spermicide. Even better, get your ovaries cut. Well, to make my post short, I agree with the people who think that abortion should be made legal, in reasoned moderation. |
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Jul 12 2007, 02:19 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
All I'm goin to say is, I'm against abortion unless it was a victim of rape, I think they and only they should have the option to abort their child.
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Jul 12 2007, 07:17 PM
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 Kimberly Group: Member Posts: 1,961 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 121,599 |
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 12 2007, 03:19 PM) All I'm goin to say is, I'm against abortion unless it was a victim of rape, I think they and only they should have the option to abort their child. I agree - someone who's been raped has every right to have an abortion. Same if the mother's life is in danger, or if the doctors are certain there's something really wrong with the baby. But I dont think we can completely make it not an option for everyone else though. I'm against having one done as a form of birth control, but a woman still has the right. I think we need to outlaw abortions after a woman is 3 or 4 months along, because the fetus is more developed. But I think anything before that should be allowed. I think instead of outlawing it, it needs to be more discouraged. I think every woman (except those who's lives are in danger or have been raped) before they have an abortion should have to be fully informed on exactly what they're doing. They need to know basically what the doctor knows. And they should have to view an ultra sound. And of course be informed of other options, like they already are. I think alot of women would change their mind after being presented with things like that. |
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Jul 12 2007, 07:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jul 12 2007, 08:17 PM) I agree - someone who's been raped has every right to have an abortion. Same if the mother's life is in danger, or if the doctors are certain there's something really wrong with the baby. But I dont think we can completely make it not an option for everyone else though. I'm against having one done as a form of birth control, but a woman still has the right. I think we need to outlaw abortions after a woman is 3 or 4 months along, because the fetus is more developed. But I think anything before that should be allowed. I think instead of outlawing it, it needs to be more discouraged. I think every woman (except those who's lives are in danger or have been raped) before they have an abortion should have to be fully informed on exactly what they're doing. They need to know basically what the doctor knows. And they should have to view an ultra sound. And of course be informed of other options, like they already are. I think alot of women would change their mind after being presented with things like that. True... pretty much agree 
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Jul 13 2007, 03:10 PM
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 Naomi loves you. Y'all may call me NaNa Group: Official Designer Posts: 2,925 Joined: Jun 2006 Member No: 427,774 |
Abortion should be illegal with exceptions. Depending on her situation like you all stated rather it rape or so for. I don't believe in Partial Birth Abortion. PBA should be illegal no matter what.
Click here to learn what PBA Procedure is. Click here for a diagram and a quick video of PBA. I may edit later on. |
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Jul 13 2007, 03:12 PM
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But what's to stop someone from claiming they were raped? Also, how about the people who know about what they're doing, and don't need it reinforced further about what they're about to do?
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Jul 13 2007, 03:58 PM
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Sing to Me Group: Member Posts: 1,825 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,808 |
QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 13 2007, 04:12 PM) But what's to stop someone from claiming they were raped? Also, how about the people who know about what they're doing, and don't need it reinforced further about what they're about to do? i'm not sure but if a woman claims she was rape, and i'm assuming to a doctor or someone at the clinic so she could get an abortion, since it such a severe crime, it is suppose to reported. once reported, an investigation would follow, probably. falsely claiming rape extremely wrong and can be punished. even if they know what they are doing, that doesn't mean they are ready or understand the long term effects. that is why in some states, counseling sessions are required for women who are seeking abortion. these sessions not only cover what abortion is but it helps the women undestand the full scope of what they are doing because just understanding the medical procedure isn't enough. |
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Jul 13 2007, 04:28 PM
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You know, I used to be very much against abortion but now, I'm not so sure. If I should get pregnant right now, knowing fully well that I'm in no way capable of taking care of a child, I might abort it. I want to go to school, I want to have a uninterrupted future, I want to date and I certainly do not want to be a mother at 19. I'm not claiming that I'm going to be careless and have unprotected sex BUT shit happens. A broken condom perhaps.
Never in a million years did I think that I'll feel this way. |
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