QUOTE - stephinika
please stop with the raps with only the point to diss one another. thanks.

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QUOTE - AkaRyux
It's not that he's actually dissing Jason; it's just not necessary to make these stupid "raps". If they wanted to joke with each other, they could just do it in private because people like DJ are just littering the writing forum with this annoying shit. Other people who made Jason dissing raps had their topics closed. I don't see why this hasn't been closed yet.

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Okay, I don't see why you have to close these threads. Just because you don't appreciate a part of hip hop for what it is (not all but some of you) doesn't necessarily give you the right to just close down threads and attack people for doing something they enjoy. Battling is a part of rapping and the hip hop culture. How can you not consider a "rap" writing? Lots of lyrics have many aspects of poetry such as metaphors and alliteration and multi-syllable rhyme schemes. If you guys dislike it soooooo much, why don't you atleast bring another sub forum for it. If not, this malfeasance has got to stop. I know im a new member and all and I know that there are already people who don't like me and most of you don't know me but shit, hip hop is something I love so why should I or anyone else be stifled from presenting hip hop in lyrical writing or battle tracks?


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http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=90719

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=90639

They were closed on the grounds of member bashing. Read the rules and you'll see, k.

^ thats interesting since you said

Stop ruining the writing forum with your childish mindless rhymes, kids. Post this bullshit in entertainment or something. Or even better, don't post it at all. Grow up.

and also

I really don't care what your motives are, whether it be for laughs or for real. It's immature and stupid, and I'm sick of it spamming up writing. This crap isn't even deserving enough to be called a piece of "writing." You want to keep up your immature rivalry? You want to sink down to the level of a twelve-year-old? Go do it in entertainment; after all, that's what "raps" are. Writing is to be appreciated, to break a threshhold.
This is no where near worthy of being called "writing."


No offense or anything but I didn't see anything about "member bashing" in any of those theads, only in the "my raps" one which I have not mentioned ( I can agree with that one since everyone is hatin' on jason )
And it's battling. I can see your "member bashing" and your reasoning behind it but it's something that is normal, it's not like we all really hate each other or anything. (for lack of better words and I'm on the phone so I can't concentrate on what I want to write right now lol)

What I posted in the threads and the reason the threads were closed are two different things. And regardless of intentions, bashing is against the rules, the reason the threads were closed, as I'd already stated. The threads between DJ & Jason were 'dissing' each other, and that constitutes as bashing. k.

^ you still haven't addressed my issues on battling. It's not literal member bahing because it's not really meant to be, and it is still writing, so I don't understand what your beef is.

And why should I? I have no control over the rules and how cB is run. You want someone to address it? Go talk to a mod.

^ That's the reason I have addressed my issues on this forum - the feedback forum.
And then why have you addressed to the issues behind the closing of threads seeing that you're not a mod but have neglected my other ones? You have no control over how cB runs so then who are you to consider battling as a form of member bashing?

bah, it's not member bashing. it's bashing their material. we don't close threads when people say "i think that layout sucks" or "that photo you took is not very good."

and if you want him to stop, then don't post in his threads.

I was responding to your statement, "I don't see why you have to close these threads."

It's not member bashing? The reason of the original posts of the threads he linked were to diss other members. Um. Right then.

and yet when I persisted to to make my argument clear, you began to explain it was due to member bashing, but as I have already stated, who are you to decide what is defined as member bashing?
For it to be "member bashing", does not both parties or atleast even one party have to be serious about what they write? Otherwise, how can that be considered member bashing?

Did I really define it? Was I the one who close the threads? Sure, the mods who closed them said it was bashing, and I just figured they were the ones that meant the dissing was bashing, 'kay? Okay then.

You defined it right there. No, you weren't the one to close the threads but you started the arguments for it. So why don't you discuss your argument then? Why aren't lyrics considered writing? Many of them have the same form of poetry.

As I said, "I just figured [mods that closed the threads] were the ones that meant the dissing was bashing," and honestly, I don't see the talent and thought behind mindless dissing and hating of others. This isn't the best place to discuss this, seeing as how it's semi-offtopic. Anyway, why do you even bring it up again? You got the threads reopened. Are you happy yet? ....

^ Well, not so off topic because I did address it in the first post, although I do agree that this is not the best place to discuss this issue. And I bring it up because I just want to know why you dislike it so much, I only bring it up because I love hip hop and hip hop is my life, that's all, no hate intended or anything of that sort, after all, you are entitled to your opinion and I do respect it, I just didn't understand why you wouldn't constitute lyrics as writing even with the facts I have stated previously. And it wasn't about re-opening the threads, it was more of the reasoning behind it. But you're right, just drop it I suppose, no beef and what not. One

Okay, see here's one issue that can be solved rather quickly:

If you don't like the threads that contain raps (or any other form), then DO NOT CLICK IT, and READ IT.

Honestly, it makes no sense to view the threads if you think they lack talent and thought, and diss/hate on others. Just simply ignore the threads, and leave them be.

Already been established by James up there. But it's not like I read it anyway - I see the title, "my rap (disses ___)" gets really repetitive and annoying. I'm just someone that always needs to have something to bitch about. Sorry.

How about we write rap that isn't dissing other people, well written, and not degrading?

Look, these got closed for MEMBER BASHING:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...c=90502&hl=diss
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...c=71353&hl=diss

It is member bashing and it's not even good. So why not just close it to prevent any controversy? And it's annoying as hell. I know you people are like WELL IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T READ IT. Well, it's stupid. I wouldn't want someone writing rhymes about me like:

You're so dumb//
You suck you're thumb//
I want to kill your llama//
Go cry to your mama//

It's not funny; the idiots making dissing raps publically, are just looking for popularity. If they wanted to have a freestyle contest or whatever, they could keep it to themselves because it's really pathetic how people are like "I'M GOING TO INSULT PEOPLE AND MAKE IT RHYME AND PEOPLE CAN READ IT TOO! THEY'RE GUNNA THINK I'M SO COOL BECAUSE I'M CRUSHING ANOTHER KID'S SELF-ESTEEM. I THINK I'M SO AWESOME!!! YAY!!!"

Sorry if I'm overreacting, but I just think the whole idea is BS.

I think it's sad that a bunch of tasteless, shallow insults that rhyme (sometimes in a very half-assed way) in the form of a 'diss-off' get 50 replies, while people that actually submit worthy poetry and prose get one reply; two, at best.

Isn't there a thread in forum games for freestyle rapping, anyway?

Yeah i'm 50 cent because I get a lot of beef//
Call me the king because I'm always the cheef//

I can't believe these idiots even considered soiling the Writing forum with that nonsense.

No one will diss you if you don't participate.
I dont think its insulting when two people agree to take shots back and forth for fun. I battle people all the time at my school, although large crowds of people gather around too watch I dont do it for popularity but for the fun aspect. Besides the people I battle are all my friends and everyone knows that is no biggie but rather a competition. DJ and Jason both said they didn't actually mean the things they said towards one another which is the exact same way most hip hop battles occur.


Exactly
I agree 100 %. If you already know that the topic does not fufill or meet your standards then why click on it?

Well, it's not really member bashing if the other person is welcoming it and participating in writing a rap back. >_> I hope nobody quotes this and writes why I'm wrong...

I agree. There is no point going into a thread just to talk about how dumb it is.

how exactly do you know that for a fact? or why they are doing it? have you ever asked them? no.

anyway...

it was clearly said that it was not member bashing. you want to talk about member bashing then go to the "who do you hate from cb and why" thread first.
so if you have a problem then do the following. kthx.

I don't even have anything to say any more.

Spam the writing forum with the threads, whatever.

I guess that's what it's reduced to now; I'm glad to know I can skip it from now on.

ha. you guys are hilarious. it's not bashing if the 2 people involved aren't hating on each other at all. if u dont like it, DON'T CLICK IT. that's your own fault if you click it. it's not our fault if we get more replies, people WANT TO LAUGH. Createblog mods are too uptight anyway! so you all need to calm down, its senseless because we MAKE it senseless, because it makes people laugh. and I personally like making people laugh. If that's a problem, deal with it!


Definition of--

Rap: A form of popular music developed and characterized by spoken or chanted rhyming lyrics with a syncopated, repetitive rhythmic accompaniment.

Definition of--

Lyrics: a. Relating to or constituting a poem in this category, such as a sonnet or an ode.
b. Of or relating to a writer of poems in this category.

Definition of--

Writer: One who writes, especially as an occupation.

Thank you.

I am not fond of these rap battles either, but I think you guys are just looking for excuses like "member bashing" to try and outlaw these raps. I think they comply with cB's rules and there is no member bashing. I can see what you maen when you say it's pointless and bad writing but it should be allowed.

I have a question - what would you think if a really deep, thoughtful, ill rap was written and posted? Would you still be as mad?