thank you for answering my questions, thats all I needed :] and actually about the black market, its not beneficial to society directly, its beneficial to private industries who use then for support, which in turn out government will use private industries. As a family who owns buisnesses, I have always been taught that black markets play a crucial role in making bigger fortune 500 companies survive along with the mafia, catch me please if Im wrong. and for innocent drug offenders: Yes they are doing it on their own time, but I wouldnt plead them 100% innocent, there would have been a reason these people appealed to police and all Im saying is that whether we legalized marijuana or not, something is always going to be illegal that people are going to want to do it and in turn there will always be innocent people in prisons, not just drug offenders. As for stem cell research, I just thought that is anything was going to be legalized, we should legalize that first, but your correct and I agree about passing stem cell research

BItch stfu you donkey f*cking ass licker

You're so cute with your caps lock. And what the f*ck are you even talking about lol. "Raise your hand" next time. ROFL

go watch zoolander

/edit and stop spamming, you assholes.

I think it's quite selfish for people to prohibit the use of marijuana for medicinal reasons, because "pills are safer".
Wtf seriously?

why havent you been warned?
Your warning level deserves to be at like 99.9% and then it can get to 100% and you will be blocked from posting. That would be awesome.

Aww does your pussy wussy hurty wurty?

stfu ou ugly pile of bull dung, i wanna take a dunmp on your chest and make you suck the fart outta my annnus

go jerk off to twilight. lol wtf is dis. a band of ugree people

no question it should be legal. why shouldnt it be? havent heard a good argument for it

actually, alcohol is even more detrimental than marijuana.
so instead of legalizing weed, we can just ban alcohol and call it a day!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_...es_Constitution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_of_alcohol

yeah f*cking right

You cant be serious.

^half joking, half serious.

if your argument is that weed is harmful to society & the individual... you have to recognize that, statistically, alcohol consumption is exceedingly more harmful for both &, as such, should be banned.

I agree with the alcohol comment.

It is a proven fact you can die from consuming too much alcohol, never once has anyone overdosed on weed.... just saying.

as far as legalizing it, it's a great idea. It would do so much for the economy. Marijuana is a highly untapped industry that so many partake in, if taxed, the government would make billions, thus helping to alleviate the economy in this time of need.

Everything is fine in moderation, and it being put to use to alleviate pain in medical situations is far safer than say something like oxycotin or vicodin or valium.

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I didn't read through this all. I didn't care to.

I've done it before. It's not the best. I don't do it often at all, I don't even like doing it.

All I know is that it's safer than cigarettes, safer than alcohol, and a lot safer than many prescription medications.

It's beneficial to some, a form of escapism for others (internet and WoW being other, less productive forms of escapism,) and something others would just keep out of their lives.

Teenagers would probably be less likely to do it if it wasn't illegal. The illegality of it is tempting in itself.

Yes, there should be an age limit.

But it's harmless compared to some of the stuff that's legal here.

I hope you choke.

I'll try. ;]

Weed got decriminalized in MA. That means, instead of going to jail for processing it, you get fined. Now, it's a civil matter.


Kinda. Smoking weed actually INCREASES your chances of cancer and various diseases. However, since most people don't smoke it as consistently as cigarettes, the effects are diminished.

If marijuana was legalized, the government can have a claim on its production and growth. Which means, all those drug dealers that are offering weed would probably go out of business since people can just go to a store to pick it up. In addition, the product itself would be kind of healthy. On the streets, weed gets cut with a host of different things, which increases its toxicity.

Legalizing it would also generate a whole new bulk of revenue. Either through government production or through the elimination of the incredibly wasteful manpower/resources we spend by sending law enforcement out to capture marijuana dealers/growers/users. Also, government production can control how much THC is in the actual weed. So people can still smoke it but the mental effects could be decreased.

And as for medical marijuana, it has less harmful side effects than other prescription pain killers. Marijuana won't be used as a miracle drug. It's mostly pain relief, as Brooklyneast pointed out. In the proper dosages, the psychological addiction effects are lowered.

Can someone please explain to me if I carry around marijuana in my hand, it is illegal, but if I have a prescription for marijuana, it's okay?

Its legal in California if you have terminal cancer or some other terminal disease.
It supposedly dulls the nausea of chemo, and gets your appetite back again.

i can say my back and wrists hurt from my doctor and automatically get a 6 month write up for marijuana, you dont need cancer

who is that guy on your siggie?
what is his name?
where can i find him?
lmfao!!!

I agree. I don't personally smoke. (I used to).
But I know a shit load of people that do it. A few family members, mates etc.

There's nothing wrong with it. If it where to be legalized then yes, it would be setting innocent people free. As someone said previously.
On some people it has a bad effect. But they abuse it.
My idiot boyfriend thinks that people get agro on it. But it's the opposite. Apparently (According to my brother, who is an unreliable source) There have been no deaths due to being wasted aside from bad reactions. Yet if you look at the death toll / *Bad things that happen* in accordance with alcohol, well, There are categories Drink driving, Random street brawls, family violence (Although to be fair you don't have to be drunk to be a wanker mother / father / uncle / aunt etc etc). And people look at Marijuana as a worse substance? It's so stupid. The govt would make money on tax for it (Like they did with making prostitution legal (I'm from NZ )) So I still don't really see the problem. It'd stop money being wasted on paying for the people who "Broke the law" by carrying it and going to court, have hearings etc, paying for their "accommodation" (Jail(which btw they get sky (Cable) Which I don't get even))). So it's a win win. They make money, stop losing so much by paying for the court trails etc, and we get to smoke / eat / drink for what ever reason people do it for.

Btw it also has healing properties. On cancer. Something about cancer of the eye.. I think. Don't take my word on it. But it DOES have healing properties on something that's very unwanted.

That's only on some people. Personally I think it did that to me. Hence why I stopped. But my mum used to be a heavy smoker, before she had me. And somewhat after. (She's the bestest mum ever, don't judge her she's not like one of 'em druggie parents, she had jobs etc, cleaned cooked a normal person, just did smoked before she went to bed or before she went out)
And her memory is way better then mine. So it doesn't ruin *everyone's* memory.

You must realize that legalizing marijuana is not a simple cut and dry issue like a lot of teens might think because most of them think about "lol drugs are cool let's legalize weed and 420 all day everyday" and not much further from that

You know, the "weed doesn't kill people and is safer than alcohol" stuff is getting old and I've heard this argument a million times and I'm sure you have too. That's great, but let's take one step further

I didn't vote republican or democrat but instead I voted libertarian this year. I'm not really here to push you to vote libertarian but talking about the legalization of marijuana does involve politics and one of the stands that libertarians have is to basically decriminalize all drugs. Here are a couple theoretical results of this action:

1. Crime/gang violence reduces significantly: In most cases, a gang, crime mob, or mafia's main export is drugs. Prohibition is what created organized crime, and the same thing applies to The War On Drugs. When we take away these laws then organized crime is severely reduced.
2. Free up prison room for real criminals: Do you know someone who's in prison for possession of marijuana? Lifting these laws makes up more room for real bad people, like murderers.
3. Economic income/more jobs: Drug taxing is likely, and if drugs were legal then it would create jobs for those to create, monitor, and regulate those drugs

NoSex wrote about this and he's pretty much on the ball as the result of a lift on marijuana, but the same thing applies to laws on drugs in general.

Getting back to this particular thread at hand, a lot of you guys have posted medical cases of the usefulness of marijuana during chemotherapy. That's great as it supports its use, but it really doesn't matter. Alcohol doesn't do a damn thing when consumed except increase chances of car accidents and doing other reckless things (either by using alcohol as the excuse or the fact that it lowers your inhibitions), but it's great when it comes to cleaning wounds. The point is, if enough people want it, they will get it. I think it's something called 'democracy' and I believe it's been around for a while

Give more thought on this topic because it's a wet dream to many teenagers but you should look at it from an economical and realistic standpoint also.

Mmm I am a teenager myself. Not all teenagers think like that, btw what is 420? :O
I don't vote. I'm under 18 (obv) but I wouldn't vote just because a party was going to legalize it. :L That's silly.

I agree with you, not a lot of teenagers or adult think like you do, as in freeing up jail space / not as much gang fights or w/e. They do just wanna legilizse it for the sake of smoking when ever they like.

My b/f for example thinks that it won't help the system in any way. At all. >.< There's no way I can beat it into him that if it was legalized it'd help with a lot of things.
Perhaps I should show him this post and show him I'm not an idiot who thinks crap stuff that won't work. :L

I say they should legalize marijuana to an extent. Legalize it for people that need it for medical use. But legalizing it as a whole wont do much for the economy.

Because it is prescribed, therefore it is legal. Without a prescripton, its illegal. Thats why.

Legalizing marijuana would just produce a ton more people who laze around and do nothing all day while they could be making something of themselves and helping out society in a positive way. Its already hard enough trying to control the idiot drunk drivers on the road and the binge drinking and alcohol poisoning in the US today. But banning alcohol is never gonna happen, people wouldnt have it. Legalizing marajuana would force us to have more regulation so we dont have people toking up in front of kids and driving while smoking it which causes most people to be less aware. If people just stopped being so addictive about everything and maybe smoke one or two joints a week instead of all day long, maybe I wouldnt be so against it being legalized. But if it were legalized, you know people would take too much advantage of it and do nothing with their time and become slugs.

If its perscription use then its medical marijuana but doctors only give it to patience who have cancer or other potential terminal diseases. So you cant just go up to your doctor and say "hey assign me medical marijuana". Though even then doctors dont have to perscribe medical marijuana even if they have a cancer patient. The medical marijuana bill recently got passed in my state and i was talking to my mom about it, she works internal medicine, and she said that a lot of doctors especially in her office dont believe in the use of it and she has even had trouble giving her patients just regular drugs because they are afraid to get addicted to it.

I personally find the bill, cant remember what it was initially called, stupid and my student teacher proved it when he said that he saw a grungy looking guy eith dreads (also kids in my class have recognized him also smoking weed) trying to get people sign the petition to legalize it. I mean to me its just another way for some people to abuse it. Also before people jump at me for this...im aware it can ease the pain and increase appitite for sick patients but when people abuse it thats just wrong. I also had a student in my class who had cancer and when we were on the subject she even said "I already had a ton of drugs in me when i had cancer, that last think i would have wanted is another drug to add to it." Also i remember a kid saying "I hope it gets legalized!" which also kinda proves that it will be abused

That was lengthy but i just wanted to let that out.

Marijuana is the most easily obtained illegal substance in the United States. Everyone who is living in the real world has the choice whether to smoke or not. People that wish they could smoke weed don't abstain from it just because it's illegal. People that don't smoke weed choose not to, not because it is illegal, but because they are against the concept of drugs. You never hear the argument, "Don't smoke weed, it's not allowed!!" you hear people say, "Don't smoke weed, you'll become stupid, lazy, etc., etc., etc." That being said, legalizing it, I suspect, will NOT increase the number of pot smokers significantly in this country.

As for people "becoming lazy and slugs," what do you think the United States stands for? Do you imagine that our country is filled with millions of hard-working, intelligent people? No! Americans spend hours in front of the tv, playing video games, and glued to their computers. I think video games are absurd, and I find it ridiculous that it's the favorite past-time of our country. But I don't fault people who do play them, because it's their leisure time, and what they choose to do with it isn't up to me. It doesn't affect me or anyone other than themselves, which is why I don't care.

Marijuana being legal would solve more problems than it would create, but since we are in a mostly conservative, progress-fearing country, I fear that this will never happen. Instead of penalizing those for driving and smoking, or smoking in front of minors, state resources go towards catching and penalizing people who smoke it in the first place. It's not very effective, nor does it address the real problems smoking marijuana causes. It's sort of similar to why prohibition ended; the government discovered that people will drink regardless of whether or not it is legal, and that it being illegal actually caused more crime, most notably--organized crime.

Has anyone taken into consideration that any drug kills your brain cells and will eventually most likely kill you too! Even smoking can kill you! No it should not be legalized! America is such a great country because so there is so little drug dealing going on (compared to other countries.)

Look what opium did to America. It was one of the first drugs and it started a war and killed many many people. and many people tried to smuggle and trade it illegally and it go America no where!

Its illegal for a reason! Because if it wasnt illegal it would weaken america and possibly send it into turmoil.

I think all drugs should be avoided. I know of many people who have become addicted to prescribed drugs and they no wish they had taken them in a much smaller moderation.

When I get sick I dont take any medicine. Even when I have a headache. Its my bodies way of saying rest until it goes away. If I cover it up then it will just make me worse.

Drugs of any kind are unnecessary.

that's completely ridiculous. read this thread and then come back and say half that shit.

So let's not legalize marijuana but we will keep TOBACCO and most especially NICOTINE, because America legalized that stuff so it must be safe

But statistically:

People killed from tobacco-related causes in the 20th century: About 100 million

When was the last time you heard of someone dying from marijuana overdose

Aspirin has a better chance of killing you than marijuana.

You don't get it do you? Just because it's legalized, doesn't mean people can use it without abandon.

Once it's legalized, it'll fall under government control. That means there are laws dictating how much can be sold at once, who can buy/sell it, where/when someone smoke/use it. There also will be laws dictating how/where it can be grown.

You aren't going to have what's happening now. Cartels in Mexico running the business, using guns and violence to further their drug business. Drug dealers recruiting kids to do petty weed sales and those kids getting sent to jail for the same amount of time as a murderer for distributing some weed. Drug dealers are notorious for cutting toxic materials into drugs (not just weed alone) to boost the high-inducing factors or to pad the wait.

The government can stand to make MILLIONS. In NY state, our government makes a shitload on taxes on cigarettes. If the government to cash in our weed production, it's certainly an incentive.

Drugs of any kid are unnecessary? Vaccines are a form of medication. They are the reason why most of America doesn't contract polio or measles or any other "conquered" diseases. You get an infection and get a fever, most likely you would need antibiotics to fight the infection or else you risk frying your brain or dying. You have cancer you need drugs. You can't just sleep it off.

Even I know that is incredibly stupid. Go say that to someone who just had there head smashed open, there leg snapped in half, or is going have to go through months of crippling pain from cancer treatments.

IMO opium =/= weed

People who smoke weed are getting sentenced years in prison in some cases. They are being sent to a place with people who have done real shit. That for me should be enough reason to decriminalize it.

man....you = dumbass

Thats a very unintelligent way of looking at it. Legalizing a drug wont send people into total chaos. Lack of intelligence and ignorance sends people into chaos. Judging from your comment, I'd say your on the forefront to a new and chaotic tomorrow.

Yes, I like the word chaos.

For real. Even though it's been covered in this thread (or has it?), I will respond to him!


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Okay I started underlining and bolding and stuff, but then it turned out to be too much to do.

1. Weed does not kill brain cells. Weed does not make you dumb. What does smoking weed do to hurt you? Smoking. Same thing cigarettes do, minus all that extra whatever they decide to toss in to surprise you. Weed does not effect your brain, only the particulates that go into your lungs.

BUT GUESS WHAT!? The human body has this amazing ability to oh... heal! Why do people smoke weed? To get high. People have absolutely no use to smoke weed like people smoke cigarettes. You use it briefly to attain that high then you're done smoking (unless you're Kevin)! So hmm, a little bit of smoke which the body can heal and THC which doesn't kill brain cells is clearly going to kill you.

Opium is man made, weed is AU NATURAL MOTHER f*ckER! It's illegal because society has imposed a stigma upon weed and for generations it has been viewed as this naughty terrible thing to do.

If it wasn't illegal, less people would be in jail for pointless reasons, it could be regulated, and well, it could be one more item the government could impose a tax on and profit from instead of spending tax payer dollars to imprison these individuals and keep them there using oh, tax payer dollars.

So to sum it up for you:

Weed will not kill you
Legalizing weed is beneficial to all
You should do a little research

Well I didnt know that did I!
I thought yall were saying that everything would be the same but it wouldnt be illegal to do it. Cause just even more kids would do it.

^I didn't get your second sentence at all.

As I said before. You are on the forefront to a new and chaotic tomorrow.

Then why are you bothering to post on a subject you're so clearly ignorant about?

http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...-mythology.html



they're not exactly harmless.



although, the legalization of personal use of marijuana may not have directly affected the accident rates.



so, i guess long term usage is just bad, like usual.



there you go.



lol yay.

man all this talks just makes me wanna...

Propaganda. Marijuana has no negative side effects other than TWO (2) allergic reactions. Dry mouth and red eyes. It's been proven over and over and over again that you cannot over dose, you cannot get cancer, in fact marijuana has proven to stop lung cancer, asthma, brain tumors, help with pain for those who take chemotherapy, arthritis, fever reducer, natural appetite booster, natural sleep aid, natural muscle relaxer, natural stress reliever, helps people with ADD/ADHD, also people with Alzheimer's disease. AND MUCH MORE.

Please dear God read independent studies and stop being brain washed by a bunch of racist assholes.


Here, learn something: http://jackherer.com/

Oh and California's legalizing marijuana and Texas supposedly is decriminalizing marijuana.

Weed isn't as dangerous as everyone says it is but there are still dangers. Weed still produces tar and damages your lungs. However, people usually don't develop cancer or other lung diseases because they cannot smoke it as consistently as cigarettes.

Marijuana is just like soda to me.