Chii
Aug 6 2005, 11:21 PM
while i was cleaning my room, i came across this forever 21 bag and i noticed that it says "John 3:16" on the bottom folds...
i thought this was really odd...i looked up John 3:16 in my bible and it says
QUOTE
By this we have come to know love, because that one surrendered his life for us; and we are under obligation to surrender [our] souls for [our] brothers.
i don't get it...why would forever 21 have this bible thing on its bags?
iheartjohn
Aug 6 2005, 11:23 PM
I've shopped at Forever 21 for the longest time...and I've never noticed that....
How strange.
Azarel
Aug 6 2005, 11:28 PM
Fashion.
John 3:16 is one of the most well known Bible verses there is, and the one you have quoted is not it. Forever 21 is just being evangelical without being overtly so, in order not to divert customers who are no so fond of Christianity.
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Spirited Away
Aug 6 2005, 11:30 PM
It's obviously owned by a Christian who wants to evangelize
.
What Anna said.
YourSuperior
Aug 6 2005, 11:31 PM
That's weird. That's a clothing store right?
[Scr3amin][Horror]
Aug 6 2005, 11:31 PM
^Yes clothing store
azn_r4pf4n
Aug 6 2005, 11:50 PM
maybe somebody dropped it in there on accident.
jackizzle
Aug 6 2005, 11:51 PM
huh ive always wondered why people held that up at basketball games.. lol
lbjshaq2345
Aug 7 2005, 12:01 AM
john 3:16 is
QUOTE
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, for whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
demolished
Aug 7 2005, 12:03 AM
What?
Someone left you a bible thingy in Forever 21 ?
<nonsense>
Well, that's better than people who tries to convert people by using communication that are not christian. They're mostly rude and not worth of anyone's time (not christian).
</nonsense>
Yes it's pretty wierd. I dont think it's a big deal.
You can report that for $$. haha. i dont know ..
xTINAA
Aug 7 2005, 12:39 AM
QUOTE(aznxboredxperson @ Aug 6 2005, 11:03 PM)
What?
Someone left you a bible thingy in Forever 21 ?
<nonsense>
Well, that's better than people who tries to convert people by using communication that are not christian. They're mostly rude and not worth of anyone's time (not christian).
</nonsense>
Yes it's pretty wierd. I dont think it's a big deal.
You can report that for $$. haha. i dont know ..
No, someone didn't leave her a bible thingy. On the bottom of the Forever 21 shopping bags, it says John 3:16 referring to the bible. It was already stated several times above. And report it for money...? That makes no sense.
demolished
Aug 7 2005, 01:49 AM
^
i was confused.
Anyways, i heard people can get money for reporting an issues and win the cases. Well, i dont know.
Teesa
Aug 7 2005, 01:58 AM
yeah, I've always wondered that. I don't know, it makes me uncomfortable that it's on the bags, I don't like it.
ikayto
Aug 7 2005, 04:07 AM
Yeah, i just noticed that last week when i bought a present for a friend from there. It's like in-n-out at the bottom of their cups it says john 3:16 also.
To the guy up there, you cannot sue them for putting that, it's their company they can do w.e the hell they want just as long as it's not discriminatory. Not like they're sayinG BE CHRISTIAN OR DONT SHOP AT OUR STORE.................
LiLEthiopian
Aug 7 2005, 06:31 PM
Yea. I noticed that a while ago. I still don't understand it either.
Im So Vain
Aug 7 2005, 06:33 PM
I've always noticed that too. But too bad I cant answer the question. Next time you go to that store you should ask a sales asociate to be at least 80% sure.
EDIT//Damn I was just at the store and I forgot to ask.
not_your_average
Aug 7 2005, 06:44 PM
Yes, I did notice that. That's kinda weird. But I really don't care, honestly, as long they don't proselytize at me.
not_your_average
Aug 7 2005, 06:44 PM
Yes, I did notice that. That's kinda weird. But I really don't care, honestly, as long they don't proselytize at me.
[Scr3amin][Horror]
Aug 8 2005, 02:52 PM
Christian Desinger? [Sp??]
reflection
Aug 8 2005, 02:57 PM
thats kinda wierd and i cant believe i never noticed it before.
i agree with what anna said
ThePrincessofTKD
Aug 9 2005, 06:53 PM
wow. that`s cool. so discreet too!
Xprezsion
Aug 9 2005, 09:39 PM
omg I've always wondered that too!
seriouslynikki
Aug 10 2005, 01:07 PM
QUOTE([Scr3amin][Horror] @ Aug 8 2005, 12:52 PM)
Christian Desinger? [Sp??] Yeah. I agree.
Like, In 'n' Out. They have like "John 3;16" or "Revelations" under ther drinks and burgers. Yeah, In 'n' Out's thing is Christian. They were even in 95.9 FM The Fish...(Christian channel.) But people shouldn't really care about that.
mzislandpinay
Aug 28 2005, 12:20 AM
QUOTE(seriouslynikki @ Aug 10 2005, 10:07 AM)
Yeah. I agree.
Like, In 'n' Out. They have like "John 3;16" or "Revelations" under ther drinks and burgers. Yeah, In 'n' Out's thing is Christian. They were even in 95.9 FM The Fish...(Christian channel.) But people shouldn't really care about that.
what do you mean not care about it? .. but i mean.. yeah the fonder is probably christian (or some religion) but i think that's the most awsomest thing! It's go0d to see soem stores show off there religious sides..
QUOTE(Azarel @ Aug 6 2005, 8:28 PM)
Fashion.
John 3:16 is one of the most well known Bible verses there is, and the one you have quoted is
not it. Forever 21 is just being evangelical without being overtly so, in order not to divert customers who are no so fond of Christianity.
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
yeah i totally agree.. and i was thinking the same thing.. that was the wrong verse up there.. lol
FLIPxADDICTION
Aug 28 2005, 12:22 AM
I checked that in the bible with my friends, and we were pretty confused by that.
mzislandpinay
Aug 28 2005, 12:29 AM
QUOTE(FLIPxADDICTION @ Aug 27 2005, 9:22 PM)
I checked that in the bible with my friends, and we were pretty confused by that.
hmm.. i don't get how you are confused... would you plz explain? lol
xchrystizzle
Aug 28 2005, 12:38 AM
maybe it's the signature of the makers / factory
disco infiltrator
Aug 28 2005, 10:26 AM
Psh, no store is gonna be converting me.
Screw that. I can't shop there anyway, they don't have one here.
starlette
Aug 28 2005, 10:41 AM
John 3:16? Maybe they need to adopt a little golden rule. They have the most outlandish and unfair return policy!! I dont like them!! lol But thats very curious. I never noticed it before, but I have a bag in the hall way of stuff I was GOING to return but its been 21 days...jerks...but yeah, thats nice I suppose. as long as it doesnt impose (obviously it didnt cuz I have about 4 of their bags on my floor right now and I never noticed) and they arent hurting anyone :D
eli5e
Aug 28 2005, 02:38 PM
i noticed that .. the yellow bags right??? hmmm.. .i dont know why either ..forever 21 is a korean brand ..(owned by korean people) ..so i think it's cause many koreans (like i) are religious. o_O and keep up w/ our faith.
Mireh
Aug 28 2005, 02:58 PM
woahhh. far out.
I just dug out a f21 bag and saw it.
funny, cause i've NEVER noticed it.
Joss-eh-lime
Aug 28 2005, 05:52 PM
its on the bag, right?
but what chii has isnt john 3:16 but everyone already said that so...
blucheri
Aug 28 2005, 11:49 PM
i've noticed it. and that saying like has nothing to do with shopping. besides. is it OK to put RELIGIOUS stuff on like a public clothing store bag. i dunno. i guess so as long as people aren't in any way offended by it.
sweetest-emotion
Aug 29 2005, 08:20 PM
i was totally buggin on that too. it makes sense, now that you've mentioned the whole trying to convert ppl thingy. personally, i think the catholics should stop trying to convert people who DON'T WANT TO BE CONVERTED! if they do, then they would've by now. grrmama.
hunnigurl01
Sep 1 2005, 03:22 AM
hehehe.
john 3:16 says that god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes him will never die but have eternal life.
hehe. its a song. but uhh . .. forever 21 has issues
steezahh
Sep 26 2005, 09:05 PM
WEIRD .. I NOTICED THAT TOO!! LOL.
sandy_lumpy_shore
Sep 26 2005, 09:13 PM
Funny. They own a sweat shop and have one that on there bags
sandy_lumpy_shore
Sep 26 2005, 09:13 PM
Funny. They own a sweat shop and have one that on there bags
yummy_delight
Sep 28 2005, 07:25 PM
I saw John 3:16 on the bottom of an In N Out Burger cup yesterday.
I don't know what that's all about. [/random]
kryogenix
Sep 28 2005, 07:33 PM
John 3:16 has been in my sig for quite some time now
Aoiro
Sep 28 2005, 10:23 PM
I never saw that.
I don't understand....
Adie
Aug 17 2008, 12:45 PM
To all of you people who are 'offended' by this.. grow up. It's their company, they can do whatever they want. If you don't like it, don't buy from them. It's not that complicated.
They're not trying to 'convert' anyone by putting a scripture reference on the bottom of their bags..
If they were really interested in converting people, there's many more effective ways to do it. Especially considering all the money they have at their disposal.
I'm still confused by it myself.. I'm not sure what exactly their motive is. Personally I think it's to appeal to the religious crowd, without being all preachy about it.
But hey, that's just my opinion.
synatribe
Aug 17 2008, 12:49 PM
isnt revelations nad john 3:16 printed on like every korean buisness? like even boba stores put religious quotes on their cups, but I have lots of friends who shop at 21 and they never seem to run into that? hmm :]
hi-C
Aug 17 2008, 04:59 PM
QUOTE(Adie @ Aug 17 2008, 01:45 PM)
To all of you people who are 'offended' by this.. grow up. It's their company, they can do whatever they want. If you don't like it, don't buy from them. It's not that complicated.
They're not trying to 'convert' anyone by putting a scripture reference on the bottom of their bags..
If they were really interested in converting people, there's many more effective ways to do it. Especially considering all the money they have at their disposal.
I'm still confused by it myself.. I'm not sure what exactly their motive is. Personally I think it's to appeal to the religious crowd, without being all preachy about it.
But hey, that's just my opinion.
Good job bumping a three year old topic. Most of the people that are offended don't post here anymore.
But, to make this a more constructive post, I'm gonna wikipedia it.
Edit:
QUOTE(Wikipedia)
The store's trademark yellow shopping bags have the words John 3:16 printed on the bottom, a reflection of the owners' Christian faith.[12]
http://www.nysun.com/new-york/evangelism-in-fashion/38174/
mistysmom
Jul 27 2009, 01:32 PM
I just noticed this too and I can honestly say it was a pleasant surprise! In reading all the posts regarding this I am appalled at the many "negative" responses! Why is it when anything promotes Christianity most people get "up in arms" about it but when it promotes darkness and evil; people either "jump on the bandwagon" or don't even blink an eye??? Says alot about our world. . . I for one commend Forever 21 for sticking to their beliefs regardless of any negativity! If non-believers have rights then so do believers!
synatribe
Jul 27 2009, 02:49 PM
The Forever21 family is religious the daughters attend a church I know but seeing the trend, it might be a korean thing.
Forever21 dosent make their own bags, they hire manufacturers to produce their bags and since not every bag has the religious quote, I'm guessing the manufacturer of the bags is very religious, like other Korean Businesses, Forever21 might be a victim. Boba Loca (another Korean owned Chain) has John 3:16 on their cups, not every bag or cup has the quote, but if they do, it's always John 3:16. Who knows, Yogurtland and Pinkberry might end up like this
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