ReggieM
Oct 26 2007, 11:56 AM
i like to wear my denim raw and selvedge mhmhm so sexy i know guys might but do you girls also wear them?
synthase
Oct 28 2007, 09:40 AM
raw and selvedge?
Do you mean by wearing jeans that hang really really low?
RAWRstephishere
Oct 28 2007, 10:15 AM
What do you mean by raw and selvedge?
Smarmosaur
Oct 28 2007, 10:21 AM
yeah-im lost.
wtf are you talking about?
TheSpoon
Oct 28 2007, 10:36 AM
o-o
what?
andrewexd
Oct 29 2007, 06:54 PM
ojairus - what denim do you have ?
raw denim is basically denim with no wash, no predistressing, usually just indigo dipped. The idea is that they fade and have a ntural looking distress and faded over factory fades which imo usually look really cheap and bad (besides a few, expesive brands)
Selvage is a type of stitching (cant really explain), done on the outseam which prevents the threads from unravelling. I think alot of people care too much about selvage and it gets misleading. Selvage is not always an indicator of good denim. Especially considering it seems like everyone (companies) is coming out with selvage denim. Basically dont look too much into selvage as it will not always mean good jeans, also boot cut jeans will not have selvage as it is not possible to attatch.
What selvage seam looks like
http://xs59.xs.to/pics/05506/img1059647994.jpegHeres some pics for those who are wondering wha the natural fading looks like. (these arnt mine)
raw denim usually starts off at this color
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9294/apcbefore30xh.jpgand after wear -
Evisu
Dior
Acne ( i think these are womens )
Nudie
APC
omgomgKATHY
Oct 29 2007, 07:04 PM
wth.----.
i don't get it.
clarify please?
transcendentalism
Oct 29 2007, 07:10 PM
i have jeans that look like raw denim, but they're not :( i wish i had some, though.
andrewexd
Oct 29 2007, 07:11 PM
basically you go from
to this
I dont think girls get into raw denim (besides that they dont know) is because usually your supposed to wear your jeans unwashed for a long time (most people wash at around 6 months of wear)
HakunaMatata
Oct 29 2007, 07:48 PM
QUOTE(andrewexd @ Oct 29 2007, 04:11 PM)
I dont think girls get into raw denim (besides that they dont know) is because usually your supposed to wear your jeans unwashed for a long time (most people wash at around 6 months of wear)
Wth! Damn, I was thinking that these kind of jeans would work somehow but six months? Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew. [Said to the tune of the Mm-mm-mm-mm-good commercials from Chef Boyardee.]
salcha4u
Oct 29 2007, 07:58 PM
That stuff is crazy. I guess the creases would end up to custom fit you? They're like Rainbow flip flops! They make Evisu women's jeans at Puma. They are sooooo comfortable, but I don't think they're really raw denim. :/ And I've seen Rock and Republic make selvage seams for their denim too.
arcanum
Oct 29 2007, 09:00 PM
QUOTE(HakunaMatata @ Oct 29 2007, 08:48 PM)
Wth! Damn, I was thinking that these kind of jeans would work somehow but six months? Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew. [Said to the tune of the Mm-mm-mm-mm-good commercials from Chef Boyardee.]
LOL. Yeah, no to the raw denim. Though I would consider it.
Selvedge stitching is nice, I like it. I don't own a pair with it though, but I have seeeen it before.
andrewexd
Oct 29 2007, 10:01 PM
QUOTE(HakunaMatata @ Oct 29 2007, 08:48 PM)
Wth! Damn, I was thinking that these kind of jeans would work somehow but six months? Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew. [Said to the tune of the Mm-mm-mm-mm-good commercials from Chef Boyardee.]
lol yeah thats usually the turn off of raw denim for most. but the pictures i posted are more than 6 months wear more like 9 months - 1 1/2 years. If you washed them often like washed jeans the indigo would come out and the jeans would become light and low contrast, which i guess defeats the purpose of wearing raw denim.
QUOTE(HakunaMatata @ Oct 29 2007, 08:48 PM)
That stuff is crazy. I guess the creases would end up to custom fit you? They're like Rainbow flip flops! They make Evisu women's jeans at Puma. They are sooooo comfortable, but I don't think they're really raw denim. :/ And I've seen Rock and Republic make selvage seams for their denim too.
Pretty much. The jeans take the shape of your body so the honeycombs (back-of-the-knee creases) arnt out of place like with some washed denim.
Im not sure about womens but im pretty sure the puma x evisu jeans are raw. heres a picture of a worn pair, you can see the puma logo on the back pocket coming out
Jennifer
Oct 30 2007, 04:46 AM
^ I like the look of those, and the fact that they basically "mould" to your own shape. I haven't ever tried raw denim but I definitely consider it.
Smarmosaur
Oct 30 2007, 09:18 PM
i love the look...i just didn't know this is what it's called.
i couldn't do the not washing for so long thing...
revka
Oct 30 2007, 09:30 PM
soo..u don't wash ur jeans for 6 months???
tokyo-rose
Oct 30 2007, 09:32 PM
No, I've never worn that kind of denim.
andrewexd
Nov 1 2007, 11:08 AM
QUOTE(revka @ Oct 30 2007, 10:30 PM)
soo..u don't wash ur jeans for 6 months???
ideally, yes. Otherwise too much color is lost in the wash and the high contrast fading wont be there. but of course febreeze and some airing out helps
brooklyneast05
Nov 1 2007, 11:21 AM
gross
jeanna
Nov 1 2007, 11:22 AM
arent those out of style
ReggieM
Nov 3 2007, 05:14 PM
hey andrew thanks for explaining it hah i checked the second day i made the topic and no hits so i forgot about it. i currently have some orisue raw aoi,gap morrisons, and some levis lvc,and some crap loose fitting dc ones. i've only had them for a couple weeks and im working on my orisues currently. when im done im going to buy some apc or nudies. Do you know where to buy them like a little cheaper online?
Its a biggg turn off for "girls" and to alot of people the raw denim idea because of the not washing of the jeans. I dont mind personally like just febreeze them haha.
Jeanna there in style for a particular genre style of people.Mostly sneakerheads that can afford to buy some expensive jeans and the style has caught on with other people that do the same from what i see, myself included haha. But most people dont know abbout it.
Alot of people who do wear selvedge tend to cuff thier jeans, you may have noticed this among some guys. But some people cuff to actually show off thier selfedge jeans while others dont even know and just do it to look cool or fit thier style and there jeans might not even be selfedge and not look like
http://xs59.xs.to/pics/05506/img1059647994.jpeg
andrewexd
Nov 5 2007, 08:39 PM
I see, I have a pair of diors, evisu, and apc. for apc denimbaronline.com code style4um = 112$. Not sure about nudies but lafairchild.com, revolveclothing.com has them.
ReggieM
Nov 5 2007, 11:53 PM
thanks good looking! you must be a baller haha diors nice. im curious what kicks do you rock?
andrewexd
Nov 7 2007, 07:16 PM
hah not really. not really into shoes though usually chucks.
ReggieM
Nov 7 2007, 07:43 PM
first site didnt have apc tho but thanks
andrewexd
Nov 7 2007, 10:42 PM
huh thats where i bought mine. well contextclothing.com has some but theyre at retail which then youd be better off buying at apc.fr
ReggieM
Nov 8 2007, 01:03 AM
alright thannks alot, some said maybe i should call in and sometimes they have stock that way but ill check back in a couple days whhen i get paid.
KaiLikesDenim
Sep 20 2010, 07:55 PM
For anybody that has the money, here's a list of extremely high quality Denim Brands which any raw Denim Enthusiast would recognise,
Nudie
A.P.C.
Ernest Sewn
Crate
KMW
Spurr
Voi
RRL
Simon Miller
Rag & Bone
Sugar Cane
Acne
45rpm
Evisu
Studio d’Artisan
And for anybody who thinks its disgusting, there are 2 ways which i know of cleaning your jeans without Washing them in water, You can as mentioned, Spray them, or you can steam them, killing any bacteria and leaving a nice fresh smell. In my opinion Wearing 6 month old jeans is fine because your going to wash your legs afterwards anyway.
sixfive
Sep 20 2010, 11:50 PM
QUOTE(KaiLikesDenim @ Sep 20 2010, 07:55 PM)
For anybody that has the money, here's a list of extremely high quality Denim Brands which any raw Denim Enthusiast would recognise,
Nudie
A.P.C.
Ernest Sewn
Crate
KMW
Spurr
Voi
RRL
Simon Miller
Rag & Bone
Sugar Cane
Acne
45rpm
Evisu
Studio d’Artisan
And for anybody who thinks its disgusting, there are 2 ways which i know of cleaning your jeans without Washing them in water, You can as mentioned, Spray them, or you can steam them, killing any bacteria and leaving a nice fresh smell. In my opinion Wearing 6 month old jeans is fine because your going to wash your legs afterwards anyway.
There are many more than that list including two I have:
Hugo Boss
Naked & Famous
Naked & Famous are rather cheap for raw denim, too.
KaiLikesDenim
Sep 22 2010, 06:01 PM
QUOTE(serotonin @ Sep 21 2010, 05:50 AM)
There are many more than that list including two I have:
Hugo Boss
Naked & Famous
Naked & Famous are rather cheap for raw denim, too.
Yeah im sure your right mate, was just naming the ones i knew of the top of my head. I hear after 6 months when the jeans have some nice honeycombs, whiskers etc. you should wash them for the first time, is this right? And if so how do i?
saintsaens
Oct 9 2010, 01:55 PM
there's a lot of misinformation here
heyo-captain-jack
Oct 9 2010, 02:30 PM
I wear raw denim but I wash them at least every other week OP is gross
saintsaens
Oct 9 2010, 03:26 PM
six months is a number brought up first by Nudie jeans
there is no standard to which you should wash your jeans though i do believe good wear and tear definitely helps with the fading process
keep in mind too that when you wash your jeans you do get some bit of indigo loss but it really depends on the batch, brand and wear of your jeans
that being said if you want to machine wash just flip them inside out and hang dry
saintsaens
Oct 9 2010, 03:27 PM
btw it's been three months since i washed my jeans i think? i still have a little bit of stubb's bbq sauce on em, but they're slowly crusting away
heyo-captain-jack
Oct 9 2010, 04:44 PM
QUOTE(saintsaens @ Oct 9 2010, 03:27 PM)
btw it's been three months since i washed my jeans i think? i still have a little bit of stubb's bbq sauce on em, but they're slowly crusting away
that's pretty gross
and yeah I do the turn them inside out and hang dry thing
saintsaens
Oct 9 2010, 08:57 PM
*shrug* keep your pants clean and don't sweat like a pig
sixfive
Nov 25 2010, 11:42 AM
At two years so far. Dry cleaned them once for minimal indigo loss at about the one year mark.
Maccabee
Dec 13 2011, 12:50 AM
good pic explaining the raw denim process.
heyo-captain-jack
Dec 14 2011, 11:29 PM
my back pocket has a nice little hole where there used to be a button on my wallet, but that button fell off and now there's just a hole in my jeans for no obvious reason
shit's silly
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