Internet censorship |
Internet censorship |
Nov 16 2011, 08:37 PM
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Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
http://americancensorship.org/
"Today, Congress holds hearings on the first American Internet censorship system. This bill can pass. If it does the Internet and free speech will never be the same. Join all of us to stop this bill." Thoughts. |
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Nov 16 2011, 09:17 PM
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poison Group: Official Member Posts: 4,806 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 629,020 |
I think it's dumb. Why censor the internet? I feel like it's taking away freedom as speech. Besides people are just going to find a way to get around it. Just like drugs, people know it's illegal but they still do it anyways.
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Nov 16 2011, 11:07 PM
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Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,019 Joined: May 2008 Member No: 653,768 |
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Nov 16 2011, 11:16 PM
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poison Group: Official Member Posts: 4,806 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 629,020 |
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Nov 16 2011, 11:52 PM
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Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,019 Joined: May 2008 Member No: 653,768 |
I get it all the time
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Nov 17 2011, 12:01 AM
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Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
this is srs bisness guys
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Nov 17 2011, 12:48 AM
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Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,019 Joined: May 2008 Member No: 653,768 |
vair srs
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Nov 17 2011, 11:17 AM
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(′ ・ω・`) Group: Official Designer Posts: 6,179 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 72,477 |
well, if they wont listen to aol, ebay, facebook, google, linkedin, mozilla, twitter, yahoo and zynga, then i dont know who they'll listen to.
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Nov 17 2011, 11:49 AM
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poison Group: Official Member Posts: 4,806 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 629,020 |
I mean I can't imagine that they will censor the internet.
I mean at least some of those politicians gotta love their porn. |
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Nov 18 2011, 07:21 AM
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(′ ・ω・`) Group: Official Designer Posts: 6,179 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 72,477 |
they're obviously not targeting porn..
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Nov 18 2011, 09:19 AM
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Pocketful of Sunshine Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,690 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 289,004 |
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Nov 18 2011, 10:53 AM
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poison Group: Official Member Posts: 4,806 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 629,020 |
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Nov 18 2011, 11:16 AM
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Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,019 Joined: May 2008 Member No: 653,768 |
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Nov 18 2011, 05:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 1,938 Joined: Jul 2008 Member No: 667,832 |
Yes I know this is late, It's like drugs, one knows its illegal but they will still find a way to get.
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Nov 18 2011, 09:45 PM
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/人◕‿‿◕人\ Group: Official Member Posts: 8,283 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 602,927 |
all forms of censorship are bad and anyone who says otherwise is either a prude or a bad parent
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Nov 18 2011, 09:47 PM
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Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,019 Joined: May 2008 Member No: 653,768 |
all forms of censorship are bad and anyone who says otherwise is either a prude or a bad parent nerp. i understand people want to know what the government is doing but there should be a certain degree of media censorship when it comes to matters of national security. |
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Nov 19 2011, 06:49 AM
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/人◕‿‿◕人\ Group: Official Member Posts: 8,283 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 602,927 |
nerp. i understand people want to know what the government is doing but there should be a certain degree of media censorship when it comes to matters of national security. Secrets aren't censorship, but if someone finds out those secrets he should be able to tell whoever he wants. just guard the secrets better if they don't want them out. |
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Nov 19 2011, 05:37 PM
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Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
Granted this is most likely to try and stop pirating of music/movies/ect. I assume it would make it easier to shutdown sites (permanently and with greater penalty) like pirate bay and other torrent sites. As well as streaming sites. So in that sense they have every right to pass the bill.
I have a legit fear of people trying to heavily censor and control the internet. As well as running it similar to the way they run TV (you pay this much for these channels, but have to pay this much extra for those channels). Maybe I am just paranoid. |
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Nov 19 2011, 05:38 PM
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Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
Or I am wayy to protective of the internet.
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Nov 19 2011, 07:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Designer Posts: 5,880 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,382 |
I think it's dumb. Why censor the internet? I feel like it's taking away freedom as speech. Besides people are just going to find a way to get around it. Just like drugs, people know it's illegal but they still do it anyways. the main purpose of the bill is merely to shutdown piracy sites. what people are angry about is how the bill proposes a technology to accomplish that, which also puts a lot of other power in their hands which could potentially limit free speech and access to information on the internet. they could also erase/prevent records of events, people, etc. edit Granted this is most likely to try and stop pirating of music/movies/ect. I assume it would make it easier to shutdown sites (permanently and with greater penalty) like pirate bay and other torrent sites. As well as streaming sites. So in that sense they have every right to pass the bill. I have a legit fear of people trying to heavily censor and control the internet. As well as running it similar to the way they run TV (you pay this much for these channels, but have to pay this much extra for those channels). Maybe I am just paranoid. the gov would but they have no control over foreign websites. this bill proposes that government can control what american citizens see through the isp (internet service provider). then they wouldn't have to shut down sites, they could just stop us from seeing it. this is the same technology the north korean government currently uses to censor what their citizens see. |
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Nov 19 2011, 09:41 PM
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Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
I am not going to lie, I have not read far into the very specifics of the bill itself (yet), which is irresponsible of me seeing how I am preaching against it, but I do feel like people aren't caring as much as they should be caring. From what I have witnessed at least.
It gives them too much power, and they need to find a better way to deal with torrent sites specifically instead of bringing a tank to a gun fight. |
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Nov 20 2011, 02:19 AM
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♡♡♡♡♡ Group: Head Staff Posts: 18,173 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 108,478 |
the gov would but they have no control over foreign websites. this bill proposes that government can control what american citizens see through the isp (internet service provider). then they wouldn't have to shut down sites, they could just stop us from seeing it. this is the same technology the north korean government currently uses to censor what their citizens see. Probably in China as well. Tumblr "censored" its content on my dashboard to get me to sign a petition against this bill, which I did because I wanted to check the posts. If the American government wants to curb illegal downloading, they should just go after the people who are downloading media for free more aggressively instead of using what seems like a blanket method of censoring the Internet in general. |
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Nov 20 2011, 02:47 AM
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Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
Going after people who torrent would be damn near impossible. There are way too many. And you get that little issue of suing a 13 year old child for thousands of dollars for downloading a single song.
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Nov 20 2011, 10:28 AM
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Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,019 Joined: May 2008 Member No: 653,768 |
you'll get companies suing x number of defendants and offering to settle for say $1,000 per movie. these people get sued in federal court and because there are so many defendants in one suit they cant transfer the venue and wherever the suit is filed becomes the most convenient location. people either have to incur the expenses of hiring a lawyer to fight it and flying out there or just saying "it's not worth it" and paying the settlement offer. this to hundreds and hundreds of people nets the companies lots of monies. it also gets class actions filed so there's a lawyer to defend them all claiming they found the information illegally from isps
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Nov 20 2011, 05:28 PM
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/人◕‿‿◕人\ Group: Official Member Posts: 8,283 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 602,927 |
it's not profitable to actually sue individuals so most companies will only do it every once in a while as a scare tactic. 99.999% of legal action involving illegal file sharing is between either the RIAA or MPAA and a small torrent site like re1ease.net (that was actually [wrongfully, the servers are in spain where this stuff is legal] seized by ICE but it's just an example)
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