Gay Marriage, Do you support or oppose? Options

[lemonlina]

I support gay marriage and I'm wondering what all your opinions are.

I live in MA and they just legalized it so isall good. xP

[Spirited Away]

Just to let you know, as soon as one of the moderator sees this topic, he/she will close it because there have been two topics about it already.

[lemonlina]

Whoops, didn't know! O_o I'm new here... so yeah. >_<

[ComradeRed]

I support gay marriage and I'm wondering what all your opinions are.

I live in MA and they just legalized it so isall good. xP

We should abolish marriage altogether...

Marriage is a religious thing, not a civil one.

[Spirited Away]

Whoops, didn't know! O_o I'm new here... so yeah. >_<

It's alright!

It's always good to let your opinion be known.

[Retrogressive]

first of all, religion and state are seprate.. duh bush! if public schools are not allowed to pray or recognize a religion why in the hell is bush using christianity as an argument for gay marriage?? thats ridiculous! second, turn on any reality show like the bachlor or the bachlorette stuff like this is what "ruins" marraige, not two people getting married out of love and respect for each other!!! bush is an idiot... don't get me started :)

[DesperateXMeasur...]

My only opinion on this topic is:
Whatever floats your boat.

I don't know how else to say it.
Just let people do what they want.
If marrying the same sex is what they really want and what makes them happy, Just let them do it.

[Retrogressive]

if everyone had that additude capital murder would be legal!

[Spirited Away]

first of all, religion and state are seprate.. duh bush! if public schools are not allowed to pray or recognize a religion why in the hell is bush using christianity as an argument for gay marriage??

Okay, so I take you're pro gay marriages, fine. But lets leave the Bush bashing in the "does bush sucks" topic. People will argue with you more there.

thats ridiculous! second, turn on any reality show like the bachlor or the bachlorette stuff like this is what "ruins" marraige, not two people getting married out of love and respect for each other!!! bush is an idiot... don't get me started :)

I never liked reality TV shows, they are not as the name implies because there's nothing real about it; it's all an act for fame. What does reality shows have to do with gay marriage? I'm sure some gays enjoy watching it too.

Gay people should not be discriminated, because most (I say most because some people are just soooo faking it to get attention) do not have a choice in their sexual preference, however, legalizing is really a drastic step and all sides must be considered.

[DesperateXMeasur...]

if everyone had that additude capital murder would be legal!

I meant within reason.
Something like marrying the same sex is within reason.

//edit
I didn't mean ridiculous.
I support gay marriages.
I just happened to be sort of mad right now and wrote the wrong thing.
My apologies.

[Retrogressive]

? as ridiculous? im sorry what?

[pikimoo]

My only opinion on this topic is:
Whatever floats your boat.

I don't know how else to say it.
Just let people do what they want.
If marrying the same sex is what they really want and what makes them happy, Just let them do it.

That's what I said on the last one o.O

[Retrogressive]

I never liked reality TV shows, they are not as the name implies because there's nothing real about it; it's all an act for fame. What does reality shows have to do with gay marriage? I'm sure some gays enjoy watching it too.

let me clarify what i was trying to say. people get married and divorced everyday. reailty shows such as that are the ones "ruining" mairiage or what marraige stands for a "sacred promise between a man and a woman" not letting two people who love each other get married is stupid who cares if they are the same sex? thats like having a law against a black person and a white person getting married... stupid isn't it?

Okay, so I take you're pro gay marriages, fine. But lets leave the Bush bashing in the "does bush sucks" topic. People will argue with you more there.

sorry... but it's kinda a free country....

I just happened to be sort of mad right now and wrote the wrong thing

sorry your having a bad day... me to my mom hasn't gotten a job in five months because of bush not signing this one thing... and its sucky.... texas is not a good place to be right now.

[Spirited Away]

let me clarify what i was trying to say. people get married and divorced everyday. reailty shows such as that are the ones "ruining" mairiage or what marraige stands for a "sacred promise between a man and a woman" not letting two people who love each other get married is stupid who cares if they are the same sex? thats like having a law against a black person and a white person getting married... stupid isn't it?

How are the shows ruining marriages? Are you saying that once my straight neighbors watch it, they'll get a divorce?

Okay, you're saying that we should let people who love each other get married or else we would be stupid?

How about this (for those of you who have read this before, just bear with me):

In your point of view, if two people love each other soooo much, they should be able to get married? How about if someone is in love with his/her sister/brother, father/mother, uncle/aunt? I'm talking about incest.

If you agree that regulating marriages is stupid, then are you for incest marriages as well?

Before anyone crack any joke about me being into that stuff, please don't. It's a serious matter that I'm using for an example of this 'anti government' regulation of marriages deal.

[Retrogressive]

first of all your not getting my point at all! reality shows like that our ruining the name of marriage cause the really marry for money, then get divorced... and if that issue ever comes up... well i guess if people feel that strongly in love with their brother or mother or whatever. i guess you should marry who you love, it is a good point. but if you think about it... we are all related some how any way...

[Spirited Away]

first of all your not getting my point at all! reality shows like that our ruining the name of marriage cause the really marry for money, then get divorced... and if that issue ever comes up... well i guess if people feel that strongly in love with their brother or mother or whatever. i guess you should marry who you love, it is a good point. but if you think about it... we are all related some how any way...

I am getting your point perfectly, but I was trying to ask you how realistic is it that 'reality shows are ruining marriages'. It gives marriages a bad name for sure (that's why I don't like them), but things on TV do not necessarily reflect things in real life.

And it's not ruining anything that's not already happening. As in, people marry for money and divorce everyday, it's nothing new. The public only watches those things for drama, that's all. Nothing new.

You're the first to agree to incest marriage so far (as I've made this arguement a while ago and some were adamently against it). I applaud you for it.

Incest isn't just between people who are related, it is between people who are immediate relatives. If you're for it, then I really have nothing else to say... hehe.

I'm just making a point that if the government do not set regulations on marriages, there will be people, albeit a few, who will want to marry their immediate relatives.

Rules and regulations are there for a reason.

[Retrogressive]

Rules and regulations are there for a reason.

some may argue to be broken.

this is the land of the free. we should be free to love whomever we want.

my arguement about reality tv shows is based on bushs arguement that gay marriage abolishes the eh... whatever "name of marraige" or "sacred blahbidyblahblah" (sorry im sleepy) you have heard it im sure. im restating that IF, people marry for such stuff and that DOESN'T "blasphimy marriage" but IF two people actually LOVE EACH OTHER it does "blasphimy marriage"

sex could be compared to race. no body is telling mexicans to not marry blacks??? so why are we making a huge deal of a man wanting to marry a man? its their life? why should we tell them what to do? why is it our business? they live with each other anyway! so what if they have a peice of paper with their names on it? and a couple of rights for each other such as making medical descisions?

[Spirited Away]

Rules and regulations are there for a reason.

some may argue to be broken.

this is the land of the free. we should be free to love whomever we want.

my arguement about reality tv shows is based on bushs arguement that gay marriage abolishes the eh... whatever "name of marraige" or "sacred blahbidyblahblah" (sorry im sleepy) you have heard it im sure. im restating that IF, people marry for such stuff and that DOESN'T "blasphimy marriage" but IF two people actually LOVE EACH OTHER it does "blasphimy marriage"

sex could be compared to race. no body is telling mexicans to not marry blacks??? so why are we making a huge deal of a man wanting to marry a man? its their life? why should we tell them what to do? why is it our business? they live with each other anyway! so what if they have a peice of paper with their names on it? and a couple of rights for each other such as making medical descisions?

Rules may be broken on the basis that it is a bad rule.

It may be the land of the free, but if your freedom tramples on mine, then there would be a problem. For example, you cannot yell 'high jack' on an airplane then giggle and arm yourself with freedom of speech without getting in trouble.

I agree that people should be able to love whomever they want, I have no qualms with that. However, to legalize marriage between man and man or woman to woman is matter that affects society as a whole.

Loving is their own business, but when marriage is in question, there are already laws about it, laws that everyone must abide. Legalizing their marriage is a societal problem, not a personal one.

[Retrogressive]

Rules may be broken on the basis that it is a bad rule.

It may be the land of the free, but if your freedom tramples on mine, then there would be a problem. For example, you cannot yell 'high jack' on an airplane then giggle and arm yourself with freedom of speech without getting in trouble.

I agree that people should be able to love whomever they want, I have no qualms with that. However, to legalize marriage between man and man or woman to woman is matter that affects society as a whole.

Loving is their own business, but when marriage is in question, there are already laws about it, laws that everyone must abide. Legalizing their marriage is a societal problem, not a personal one.

bleh. okay, how can two people married effect your rights as an american citizien? thay aren't going to start knocking on your door (like some RELIGIOUS groups)

the fact that only man can marry woman is only based on a christian way of thinking in the government, which (bleh) brings me back to church and state being seprate. stuff effects society as a whole every generation.

let me start my arguement about races... again. there was a time when people disagreed that a black man could marry a white woman... or for that fact they should even be in the same buildings together... are you agianst differnt races getting married? or are you just against homosexuality.

the simple "man" seems almost threatined just like in the days of slavery and equal rights for women, we seemed to be threatened by stuff that goes against the "common mans" religion or belief system that has even killed people for such closed minded veiws.

[Spirited Away]

bleh. okay, how can two people married effect your rights as an american citizien? thay aren't going to start knocking on your door (like some RELIGIOUS groups)

It certainly would affect society as a whole.

Marriage will lead to children. They would have the ability to adopt children and those children will not have a choice in who adopts them. Adoptive children often do not have a choice in choosing their parents, especially infants.

Those children will grow up with in a household that's not like the norm. They will be estranged, to some extent, by others but they are innocent because their rights to live a normal life was taken away by others.

the fact that only man can marry woman is only based on a christian way of thinking in the government, which (bleh) brings me back to church and state being seprate. stuff effects society as a whole every generation.

Not ONLY is it based on Christian ways of thinking, but also for many other people as well. I'm NOT a Christian, but this situation is rather upsetting for Christians and non-Christians alike. Religion has little to do with it, in my opinion.

let me start my arguement about races... again. there was a time when people disagreed that a black man could marry a white woman... or for that fact they should even be in the same buildings together... are you agianst differnt races getting married? or are you just against homosexuality.

I think now it is you who are not getting my point. Let me make everything clear, I do not have a problem with gay people, but I have a problem with legalizing their marriages. I certainly do not have a problem with interracial marriages because I plan on doing that myself.

How does interracial relationships fit into this? A person can be against one topic and support another.

the simple "man" seems almost threatined just like in the days of slavery and equal rights for women, we seemed to be threatened by stuff that goes against the "common mans" religion or belief system that has even killed people for such closed minded veiws.

But homosexuals wouldn't be considered very common, let alone be called as a 'common man'. If they should belong in that category, then there wouldn't be this controversy in the first place.

How is disagreeing to gay marriage being close minded? What if I asked you to believe in something you cannot even imagine? Can I call you close-minded then?

[onenonly101]

My only opinion on this topic is:
Whatever floats your boat.

I don't know how else to say it.
Just let people do what they want.
If marrying the same sex is what they really want and what makes them happy, Just let them do it.

what ever floats your boat? That attitude has gotten America's crime where it is today. We could let alot of people do what they want and have alot of dead abused people on our hands.

You can tell I'm against gay marriages. One because of my religion. 2. because if we let this pass it will open a gateway to other problems. Like in some states it is against the law to marry your sibling. Since under the whatever floats your boat and if they love that person, they should be able to marry them. Also it would bring up age differences in marriage such as a 14 marrying a 25+ yearold. Then we come to the issue who is to say what is wrong or right and the government shouldn't be in my life so much

[*krnxswat*]

Just to let you know, as soon as one of the moderator sees this topic, he/she will close it because there have been two topics about it already.

Weeee. No worries. I'll let this one slide.

[WildGriffin]

There's only like...3 pages of debate topics. Shouldn't be too hard to turn up one of the older debates.

Only thing worse then an endless debate(the old one) is one that keeps getting reposted.

[juliar]

first of all, religion and state are seprate.. duh bush! if public schools are not allowed to pray or recognize a religion why in the hell is bush using christianity as an argument for gay marriage?? thats ridiculous! second, turn on any reality show like the bachlor or the bachlorette stuff like this is what "ruins" marraige, not two people getting married out of love and respect for each other!!! bush is an idiot... don't get me started :)

Because it would offend many Christians and not get him re-elected.

Anyway, they should be able to do what they want. They're people too. Treat them like people who have the same rights as others, and then they will be accepted socially too.

[machinoman]

In your point of view, if two people love each other soooo much, they should be able to get married? How about if someone is in love with his/her sister/brother, father/mother, uncle/aunt? I'm talking about incest.

marraige between family members does not mean they will have sex for children. interfamily marraige should be legal, but their having sex is kind of messed up, because they are putting a potential child at physical risk, so that should be illegal. right now its the other way around legally.

Those children will grow up with in a household that's not like the norm. They will be estranged, to some extent, by others but they are innocent because their rights to live a normal life was taken away by others.

They wouldn't be estranged by me, or any other open-minded people, any more than any ethnic groups are estranged. And the blame for that is not on the gay parents, but rather on the estrangees, who judge everyone for being differant.

because if we let this pass it will open a gateway to other problems. Like in some states it is against the law to marry your sibling. Since under the whatever floats your boat and if they love that person, they should be able to marry them. Also it would bring up age differences in marriage such as a 14 marrying a 25+ yearold. Then we come to the issue who is to say what is wrong or right and the government shouldn't be in my life so much

in all states it is against the law. but it shouldn't be. also, marrying a minor will never be legal, as minors aren't considered self-supported enough to make their own decisions. also, please dont call gay marraige and other marrages problems. they are more like 'sins'. as in, a figment of your imagination.